The Golden Rose: Book One by Ana Ventura

lol3.

Edit: I just want to clarify, I wasn’t condoning @fcxog’s reply, which was pretty rude. The “lol” was ironic and mostly because they started writing in Portuguese when they decided to abandon arguments for insults.

@HarrisPS, I’m truly sorry if I gave the impression I supported fcxog’s comment.

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The Pirate King is remaining straight.

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No, no, I get what you mean, don’t worry. I kinda said that in a snappy way lol. I actually agree with you. From what I’ve seen, most other bisexual players don’t mind any of this at all so I didn’t really want to share my opinion, but honestly? It pisses me off when I see literally every single love interest labelled as ‘bisexual’. Like don’t get me wrong, I get the point, I know the authors/game developers have the best intentions, but it just feels so… hollow, I guess?

I don’t wanna stray too far away from the topic, but I’ve been dealing in my life with people who just kinda ignored my sexuality? Like if you’re not lesbian or gay, it doesn’t matter, bisexuality basically doesn’t matter and isn’t even worth mentioning. I call the ROs bisexual even though I don’t think of them as such (not the ones in this game, though).

This. I agree 100%. Again, I’m not talking about the ROs in The Golden Rose, just in general from what I’ve seen. Sometimes when I see that all ROs in a game are ‘bisexual’ I just see it as ‘Free for all/Free for anyone’, like it doesn’t matter, their sexuality doesn’t matter, if you know what I mean. It may sound crass but that’s how I see it. Not sure if it makes any sense but it’s not the same with lesbian or gay love interests, and that’s why I appreciate them more. Because it feels more organic, more realistic. I’ll use Neia and the Pirate as an example. It wasn’t just ‘one single mention on a tumblr post that you’d have to spend hours to find’. It was KNOWN since the beginning. The author has kept mentioning the Pirate is straight and Neia is a lesbian because that’s what Ana had in mind since the beginning. It’s Ana we’re talking about, so I’m sure she would’ve done a great job anyway, but they weren’t supposed to be bisexual in the first place. I know it’s fiction and Ana has already said she’ll keep them as they were, but like I said, an example. Lots of authors/creators choose their characters to be ‘bisexual’ just so all players can date them. They are there for the player’s satisfaction and it really reminds me of my own experiences. Obviously I’m not saying I’m right every single time, I’m just explaining how I see it. Neia’s a lesbian because she was ‘born’ that way (as a character, I mean), not because it’s plot relevant. Like someone else said (on tumblr, I think?) she’s just allowed to exist and be the way she is. The same can’t be said about many bisexual characters I’ve seen. Their sole purpose is to be available for everyone. It really feels like that’s their whole worth.

Alessa and Hadrian though, they were done sooo good and honestly I’m grateful for them. It truly feels like they are bisexual if you know what I mean. That’s the kind of representation I appreciate.

TL;DR I completely agree with you and I have a feeling you explained it better than I ever could lol

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I also don‘t want to stray away from the original topic, so I will keep this short but I‘m unreasonably happy right now that you understand what I meant and feel similarly about it too! Sometimes I felt I was the odd one out for being annoyed by these things that no one else ever really mentioned. And what you said about ‚worth‘ — oof. Hitting hard.

And what you said about Hadrian and Alyssa — I completely agree and they are a big part of why I keep coming back to this book. This really feels like true bi representation and so I‘m happy that Lesbians will also get their representation done by an author who cares about doing it right.

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5 posts were merged into an existing topic: Sexuality and NPCs

Yes; maybe there should be a new thread opened where posts can be made without derailing Ana’s thread?

If someone wants to open a new thread and tell me which posts here should be moved, i’ll do so.

Otherwise, I suggest refocusing on Ana’s work going forward.

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I don’t think a new thread is needed - there is this one which is general and relatively recent.

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Since I have correspondence and other silly life things to do, I’ll leave this in your very capable hands then Hannah!

No problem! I’ve shuffled the last few posts over here so folks can carry on that discussion without worrying about derailing, and have left the earlier ones that were more closely focused on Golden Rose characters :slight_smile:

Ah, thank you :slight_smile: And sorry for derailing this whole thing in the first place.

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Me too. This horse is apparently one I climb very easily on.

Speaking of horses, can I get a cool one in the next book, I wonder? I want a black arabian mare that would look good with my expanding mark.

Wait, are we about to talk about the best character in the whole series, Billy The Horse?

Ah, the moral dilemma - do we keep our son by our side, like the loving parent I’m sure we all are (slowly killing him from exertion) or do we put him up for adoption, looking for a better (as if those exist) horse who’s actually gonna keep us alive? Choices, choices :pensive:

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I and my character both wanted to give up Billy for adoption to the nearest man with a very strong hatchet. I like horses and I like dealing with their shit, but Billy managed to make me lose my patience in first four chapters.

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But he’s not as boring as that mule from The Soul Stone War, imo xD

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That mule got treated better than my MC. It’s two games where I have beef with pack animals now.

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My Black Heart 4 Corruption guy would make fine friends with my Ronin. Also, Hadrian is so terribly easy to bully that I’ve managed to not let both him and Alessa fall for my MC. Impossible feat, given the fact Alessa managed to end up with my previous murderman, Griffith despite him barely expressing any interest in him.

bowling is my favourite type of sport










The twins also managed to be the only LIs I actually want to romance, even if my guy managed to earn Neia’s respect. I just don’t understand why my MC focuses on Ysabella so much and not Alain, or both of them. She’s nice, but her brother is nicer.

It also is much funnier to play as a man who picks murder as his first, second and third solution, even if it had led to maximum amount of corruption. It’s totally worth it to make Hadrian mad.

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After reading a few comments and noticing that quite a few people think this first book is more like a prologue, since there are a lot of elements that haven’t been explained yet, I’d just like to raise a point.

This book, in my opinion, serves above all as an introduction for readers to discover the universe in which the story will take place. It’s not the role of this book to answer every question.

Moreover, the main plot of this book was to find Rafael and the maps, not to delve into the MC’s past. Rafael has been found and captured, and we know where the maps are, or at least have a lead.

With a little patience, we’ll have the answers in the next book.

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Anything happen to Billy and I’m dropping the series. That’s my two cents

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That’s just inviting Billy to get in some accident just so he can upset you.

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I believe in Billy’s self preservation skills

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