Brainwashing was common, with conscripted soldiers serving under telepathic or empathic generals who used physical fatigue and indoctrination to break past mental barriers.
No, I haven’t, and to be fair even if it’s in the currently available public demo it’s possible it’s just in a part I’ve missed.
But the thing is, regardless of the crimes committed by ments I am never going to be okay with mutilating people for crimes, and when it comes down to it I think most people on here are against it as well. No one is arguing FOR cutting people’s hands off if they steal, so why are we pro cutting a person’s entire sense out if they use it to commit a crime?
You seem to be coming at it from a point of view of ments being “abnormal” but in the world of Mindblind they aren’t abnormal, they are a minority (that has been around for centuries at least, possibly as long as humans have existed), and not even a small one. We know that active power ments make up minimum 11% of the total population (there are percentages in the codex for telepaths, empaths and precogs but not for telemetrists or telekinetics). 11% of the total population having something is a human variation, not some weird abnormality.
I can’t speak for anyone else but I’m Australian. As a nation we are very proud of our gun control and I personally am very pro gun control. But an intrinsic part of a human being is not the same thing as a gun and the fact that I have to keep saying that is wild.
I actually am anti-gun control, so I will freely admit that, but these two situations are entirely different. There’s also just a due process issue, you’re essentially punishing an entire minority of people based off of the possibility that some of them may or may not commit crimes. There are just so many moral and ethical issues with this
i personally won’t have any problem with someone who is able to control their powers and is licensed to use these powers to keep them in general,
As for morality of making everyone give up their powers is something i can’t exactly put my finger on where i would be since its about a fictional world, without having active experience with how life would be in such a world there isn’t really a objectively right side for me here,
But if we go by examples of how these powers affect worlds in general, i wouldn’t mind losing this powers myself if i had the choice. I just don’t think people can be trusted with powers like these.
Do I have my own issues with these types of powers? Absolutely, but I have more issues with a government that has the power to target people on such a personal level without pushback
This is not just a question of ethics, but it is a question of public safety, if people already commit murders and robberies thinking that they won’t get caught, imagine a telepath who knows that the chances of him being caught are much smaller because most of their crimes leave no physical trace
That’s how most rights crackdowns begin, with public safety as the trigger. Not to mention, this is why unity and their crisis response team exists, to stop this kind of thing, something that they seem to be pretty good at
Once you open the door, yes, the government is allowed to poke in your head without your consent, that door stays open, it leaves them an opening to one day, someday far down the line in the future, to do something worse
Cops aren’t always going to be able to save everyone, it doesn’t mean their job is useless or that they aren’t making a major difference. No institution is perfect, that’s just reality
i understand that, but i am coming from the point of safety first. Sure, it would cause the issues you talk about and they are horrible don’t get me wrong. But is it really as severe as people’s livelihood in general being at risk?
Of course i am not aware of hardships taken by gay, bi and trans people, nor am i much knowledgeable about politics
I am just making my point with public safety in mind, and it’s also just my own individual opinion don’t take it to heart
Frankly? Yes; a tyrannical government with that level of power and with the ability to consistently violate civil rights and human rights hard to think of what’s worse than that, and this would absolutely open the door to this becoming a possibility
I feel like I’m harping on this point but I’m going to say it one last time then go to bed for the evening. For a ment, having ment powers is as normal to them as having two arms is to a regular person. If we aren’t okay with cutting off the arms of someone who punches a person, then logically we can’t be okay with cutting off the ment powers of a ment who uses them to harm others.
Horrible, awful crimes happen every day and we don’t think it’s okay to mutilate the perpetrators, and we certainly don’t think it’s okay to preemptively mutilate all people who MIGHT commit a crime in the name of the public good.
Criminalise behaviour, sure. But when you try to criminalise someone’s existence, their very being, you are in the wrong.
They are so competent that they were blown up (twice), know almost nothing about their enemies (at least apparently) and had to rely on a young adult who didn’t even have a month of training to infiltrate and get information
You make it sound like this is the only plan they have. They clearly know enough about vengeance to be able to build up this plan from basically nothing, and it’s made very clear that button does not have to agree to this and that they have back up ideas that might work just as well. Just because UCRT occasionally fails doesn’t mean there’s a flaw with the entire system, no organization is infallible
I am not a big fan of government’s ability to effect a individuals life either, and sure by taking away people’s power would only make government’s ability to affect us even more severe.
But i would sleep better at night knowing there aren’t people who can see what i am dreaming at night, or roll a dice every time a child is born with normal or abnormal ability which may or may not hurt themselves or others by accident.
I get where you are coming from, but from my perspective a normal human being without psychic ability lives just fine.
Unless you see, the ability as a must have thing for life without which living is impossible like eye sight or hearing i don’t see how you can singularize a person’s existence to just their ability to tell what other person is thinking without talking
