I have argued this stance many times. I am a heteroflexible (perhaps bisexual, I don’t know) woman who has been fetishized for her race (though I am not a minority in the US). I love when my identity is represented with a nominal amount of bigotry. To me, it gives me the chance to respond in-game how I wish I had the guts to respond in real life. Or it gives the the chance to prove these bigots wrong in ways I have no ability to do in real life. Or, it gives the chance to play a complex player character that comes to realize their bigotry and become a better person. When done properly, implemented bigotry can do so much good for a plot.
Factually incorrect, even as recently as the Wild West and early 1900’s. Ancient Greece and Rome, etc. LGBTQIA+ folks have not been victimized since forever. We have been victimized recently, but it is factually incorrect to claim it has been since the dawn of time. You even contradict yourself a few sentences later, when you state “…like a nation like Rome.”
However, I do agree with the meat of your statement.
Another side to the argument that I agree with, yep yep.
I sort of agree, though I feel there are some limitations to this that I’m far too lazy to type out at the moment. The bit about unrealistic and unbelievable is a good enough explanation.
I’d also like to say it is subjective and variable for reality as well. I like to reference the culture that eats the brains of its people to honor their memory a lot. For them, it is immoral not to, but to us it is cannibalism and some Dahmer-level crap.
I strongly disagree with the bit about it being best not to. I really think it makes the story more interesting and more relatable for me. I will never experience a day where I am not discriminated against for my gender or fetishized by the people of foreign countries for my skin tone and how “easy” my race supposedly is. There is nothing more fulfilling for me, in a game, than when I actually see women’s experiences portrayed properly. Cat calling, the minor, underlying sexism, friggin’ periods. It’s such a nice touch when I see differences in the storyline when playing as a female versus as a male (see Broken Lenses).
This is not to say I mean it in the major ways. I like the small things. The minor sexist or racist comments, the microaggressions. I do not want to play a game where it’s not safe as a woman to walk alone at night, because there are rapists in the area. I could see it not being safe because of muggers, but not because of the other thing. That is a purely female (and trans) issue that I would much rather not see in a work of fiction.
I don’t feel that way. I think there should be a character or two who don’t understand it, but for the most part, people just respect it and move on - unless the society is past that point. Same with sexism or racism. Small, microaggressions that make your feelings about the real world have some sort of validation without being triggering. Obviously this wouldn’t work in every game, but like…
The Office (US) type of stuff…not heavy stuff, unless that’s the basis of the entire game (Moreytown).
I don’t like the lack of historical accuracy in regards to racism or sexism, either. I think it does a disservice to the problems faced by these groups.
This. 
It wouldn’t have to be heavy or serious. Look at The Office. There are a lot of times Michael makes ridiculous remarks that everybody is super uncomfortable with, which he slowly gets better about over the course of his time on the show. He slowly gets better about sexism and racism and homophobia - some items faster than others. He is portrayed as ignorant but well-meaning. That is widely regarded as one of the funniest shows in the history of television.
I’m LGBTQIA+ and a woman, and I dislike it when issues aren’t brought up (again, reiterating: mildly or lightheartedly). I feel like it does a disservice to my experiences and the experiences of my peers and my forebears.
I think you misunderstand some of us a good deal. I don’t doubt that many people who complain about accuracy do so out of sexism, racism, or homophobia, but some of us feel it is important to our representation.
Hermione is black, Cho Chang is Asian, Zambini is black…many of the main characters are white, and nobody is openly LGBTQIA+, but there is diversity. UK, and Scotland, in particular, are very white areas.
Me me me me me.
Not caused by. It’s society as a whole, imho. But that’s a difficult subject that I’m not up to getting into at the moment. Don’t ever feel bad for being born straight, male, and white. That is not what equality is about.
I agree with most of this statement, but women have had utter shit quality of life until the last few decades. We used to use dirty cloths to care for our feminine areas during menstruation. Talk about low quality, ick ick ick ick ick. I used to choose to ignore those aspects in high school, though, and just think about the clothing and politics and pretend I’d be tracing back my family line and be royal (#tudordescendant) rather than be a rando.
I’m not a fan of SU (mostly due to the fanbase), but I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. This is exactly how I feel about my point of view on these forums. A lot of people seem to think I’m anti-LGBT or don’t understand the trials and tribulations.
This is true to some extent, but a lot of recent studies have proven that homosexuality was far more widely accepted than we give human history credit for. Until recently, I would have agreed completely, but some studies that have been posted (on these forums, in fact!) have swayed my opinion greatly.
Yes, very much so. What is the point of including a minority if they’re just a stereotype? For instance, why include Asians if they’re just going to tawk rike dis? Yes, accents are realistic, but it’s nice to see representation of Asians and French people and Africans without strong, stereotypical accents.
okay, I’m gonna stop responding to various posts here, as I feel like I’ve just responded to about thirty. if I want to add more, I’ll either respond separately or edit this post beneath this line.
