June 2024's Writer Support Thread

For some added context, having multiple endings is a bit of a “baseline” for choice-based media. Even games with mostly linear stories and limited interactivity (Bioshock, Dark Messiah, GTA V, InFamous, One Chance etc.) sometimes have multiple endings since it doesn’t usually cost much to put one in your game. People who play IFs, a genre where interactivity is the main selling point, will understandably see it as something of a bare minimum.

That’s not to say you can’t write an IF with a single ending, it’s your story and all… But it might be a tough sell.

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Funny fact is my three games for the tiny jam are built under the primary goal of express the concept of Hopelessness and the impossible fact of changing fate.
There are choices and decisions and they will change the outcome and the way end tune goes. But you will die one way of another.

Games are adamant and express in lore why you will die no matter what

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I’d say it depends on what that ending is. Some of the most popular and highest rated IFs only have a singular ending; Fallen Hero Rebirth, A Mage Reborn, The Golden Rose, etc. You can definitely do it - and as long as you do it earnestly, imo, your audience will find you.

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I feel like it needs to be pointed out that these three are all first books in a series, though.

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And I will fight and argue for all 3 not have an only ending at all. All of course fall into what anyone of us consider what is an ending and what is only variations on them.

It is not as easy as it sounds and The most hurting lie about that in the gaming history comes to my mind Casey Hudson and Mass effect 3 not having and A B C endings and all that

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Hoof :tired_face: I just finished editing my biggest scene yet, the second chapter of my WIP. Honestly I thought it would be a walk in a park to edit a 121k-word scene and take me just three days, but I stand corrected. It took a week and then some.

I’m glad I finished it though it still need some polishing. This thread had a part in boosting my writing morale, and I hope it helps everyone else in the same way and continue to do so. Happy writing people.

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A week is a very good efficient ratio edition. Many need far more, so congrats

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That’s one huge scene. :open_mouth:

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Writing for a series does set some pretty heavy restrictions on story-branching in that sense, since you’re basically required to make every possible end state for one game a viable starting state for the next one, so if you create multiple endings, you basically create the requirement to write multiple sequels bundled into one.

It’s one of the reasons why sequels tend to balloon in size, even when they don’t necessarily get longer.

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Yeah, fair. Being a series definitely grants a lot of leeway for everyone ending in the same spot, but the point is that it can work if the journey is immersive enough and your game can still be beloved. Fallen Hero Rebirth I actually thought ended there entirely until I learned much much later that a sequel was being written.

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Happy to report I’ve got my game’s chapter 10 prepped & ready for alpha tomorrow! There was a lot of RO interaction in this one and it’s funny to see how far the romances have come from what I originally envisioned. I thought it’d be a simple case of 1 slowburn, 1 fastburn, and 1 mediumburn. Now it’s 1 slowburn that somehow manages to progress the furthest in some areas, 1 fastburn with the least amount of emotional attachment because… the character is a normal well-adjusted person? or has commitment issues? I mean, it’s a little of both plus a whole third other thing. And 1 where there’s much more emotional investment than I expected, and much less physical connection than I expected.

These characters have minds of their own, as always, and I’m just here for the ride :joy:

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I’ve done very little in the realm of writing recently and my mind has been jumping between different projects. I have started to work on another story in my super hero setting following a new protagonist. I wrote the opening a few weeks ago and haven’t returned to it.

Okay. Let’s get this sharing started. It is the 15th. :slight_smile: There is some code but I am trying out leaving notes and not formatting everything right away until code is being implemented.

Carousel Paradox Chapter 1
I hate this.

Looking around at the boxes scattered about what is left of my room brings back the anguish of the circumstances that I find myself in. There are several items that still need to be put away and the only thing I find myself wanting to do is burn everything down.

That is a bit extreme.

How about I chain myself to my bed in protest and refuse to eat to make a statement. I'm sure that will get the message across. Unfortunately, my bed has already been taken apart and relocated to the garage until the truck finally arrives. I guess I'll need to settle for giving up on the notion of protest for the moment, mom and dad already know that I don't want to move.

I place an empty box on my desk before wrapping my items in old newspapers and placing them in the box. An item of importance catches my eye.

*choice
Str, Reflex, Stam #A trophy I got from my High School wrestling team.
	The trophy I have gotten when I took second place in a wrestling tournament that happened last school year. Now it is just a reminder of yesteryear.
Str, Tough, Speed #A pair of gloves I got when I tried out boxing.
	I picked up a pair of my boxing gloves that I received back when dad indulged me in the sport. The lessons did not last long enough for me to pick up how to fight, but I have kept the fitness route up. Now it will be only a memory of what I am leaving behind.
Toughness, speed, acuity #A football from a game winning pass I threw.
	I pick up the football and it brings a smile to my face. I still remember that night that I threw the winning pass like it was last night. I can only hope that the new school I am going to also has a football team.

	I frown at the thought of no longer being on the same team and being a stranger in a new school.
Reflex, Stamina, strength #My handgrips from the first gymnastics class.
	I pick up the handgrips that I got when I started taking gymnastics. Dad was very supportive of me taking up the activity. While I still have a lot to learn and practice, I continue to improve.

	A frown forms on my face as I think about never entering that gym again.
Speed, Stamina #My running shoes for the track team.
	I pick up my pair of running shoes and let out a sigh of contempt. Sadness grips me as I think about needing to start over.
Speed, Acuity, reflex #My softball mitt.
	I pick up my mitt and slide it onto my hand before giving it two punches to help break it in that little bit more. It was not that long ago that I got the new mitt after making the school's softball team. Now all of that effort was gone.
Acuity, Stamina, speed #My basketball shoes.
	I lift the pair of gym shoes from my table. I had taken the time to make sure they were clean not that long ago. Now all of that effort I put into making the team has gone to waste.
Stamina, Speed, Acuity #My pair of soccer cleats.
	I pick up my cleats that I had placed on my desk in frustration last night. After all the time that I put into getting onto a local team to be tossed aside.
Stamina, Acuity #A pair of drumsticks.
	I pick up the sticks and remember my time in band. Normally when I pick these sticks up magic happens, and I can feel a rhythm. However, there is no rhythm for me today.
Stamina, Reflex #A nametag from a dance competition.
	I see the framed nametag from a dance competition that I entered a few months ago. The competition was fierce, and my small group did not even take the top three, but it was a lot of fun. Mom had thought to frame the tag as a memory of the beginning of my dancing carrier.

	I sigh at the thought of leaving that all behind.
Stamina, Strength #My goggles I use when swimming.
	I pick up the pair of goggles and frown at the thought that I am no longer on the swim team at my school. Before I could enter my first race on the team, it has now ended.
Strength, toughness #A five-pound weight.
	I look at the little weight that I lift sometimes as I work on homework or when in thought. The motion will often put my mind at ease. I lift bigger weights often at school. A school that I'll not be retuning to.
I gently wrap it before placing it in the box adjacent to me.

"Honey," my mom calls out to me from down the stairwell, "I'm home!"

I let out a sigh and raise from the box I plopped down on before proceeding to the top of the stairs. As quickly as my mood is spiraling, I do not have the energy to do a yelling contest with my mother. Mom looks at me with confusion as it is clear that I am not my father.

"He's outside waiting for the truck to arrive," I explain and watch as the confusion shifts to one of understanding.

"For once he is ahead of me," she says back with a forced chuckle. "Have you seen Paris?"

*choice
#Paris is my older sister.
#Paris is our dog.
#Paris is my mom's best friend.

*label Sister
"I think said that she was gathering the boxes out of the garage," my memory on the last thing Paris said to me is hazy.

"Ever the responsible one," mom says with a smile.
*goto Oliver
*label Dog
"I'm sure he is with dad," I respond with a shrug. I haven't seen the hound in a few hours.

"She is quite protective, so that would make sense," mom says to herself with a firm nod.
*goto Oliver
*label Friend
"The last time I saw her she was carrying boxes up from the basement," I recall but it has been an hour since I last seen mom's best friend.

"I'm sure I'll find her somewhere," mom responds before chuckling.
*label Oliver
"And what about Oliver?"

*choice
#Oliver is my younger brother.
#Oliver is our cat.
#Oliver is my mom's brother.

*label Brother
"I haven't seen him for a few hours," I say with a shrug, "I'm sure he is avoiding packing in some corner of the house."

"I'll get his lazy ass moving," mom shakes her head.
*goto Continue1
*label Cat
"Probably hiding somewhere, you know how he gets when we move furniture," I shrug.

"You have a good point, he's probably hiding in some corner," mom responds and starts to look around.
*goto Continue1
*label Uncle
"Uncle Oliver?" I take a moment to think, "I can't say I have seen him most of the day."

"Probably sleeping in some corner to come out later and act like he's been busy all day," mom says with a headshake and a quirked smile.
*label Continue1
"Are you doing alright, hon'?"

I reply with a shrug, and I can see the pain in my mother's face at the reaction.

"Don't worry," she puts on a forced smile, "you'll get through this. Things will get better."

"It is like a part of me has died. I just feel like I'm starting all over again and that my life is on repeat," I say and lean on the railing, "I guess that just brings dread."

"Dread is a bit dramatic, kid," mom smirks up at me. "I know the move is rough, but your father's job will be good for us and in it's way, so will the move, even if you cannot see it yet."

"I've heard that before," I roll my eyes without thinking about it.

"You know it is easy to miss the bigger picture when you are focused on the smaller concerns. Sometimes what seems like the larger concern is actually the smaller one in the grand scheme of things," her face becomes that of compassion. "I know we are asking a lot of you, but the only one that can figure this out it's you. Everyone else will be here to support you."

"Yeah I know," I say as I search for the proper words to say. "Perhaps it would be easier to just skip to after the move. You know just a year in the future, have this all over with."

"I'd love that, let us be settled and living in our new home, but then we would miss all of the amazing adventure on the way to that time."

"Thanks mom."

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Here’s mine, the newest one from my stack of note-to-self -scenes.

Context: the MC is a vigilante, Afterthought is a supervillain (well, superthief in any event, that makes them officially a villain) working with them (and also they knew each other as kids).

You’re the first one to arrive at the meeting spot, even after triple-checking the perimeter, so you settle in to wait at the edge of the roof, keeping an eye on your surroundings. Around you, the skyfront is silent in the night: warehouses and hangars spread as far as the eye can see, crisscrossed by docks the treasureflame lamps can barely illuminate. The flimsy scaffolding piers reach high from the shadows, berthing rows upon rows of giant zeppelins, the airships’ rubbery skins pale in the dark while they float silently in formation like a flock of migrating whales.

“What did you want to talk about?” says a voice behind you.

You spin around. Afterthought is there, perched on the guardrail at the edge of the stairway roof like some kind of a peculiar bird. He gives you a look, head tilted, as if he’s been there all this time just waiting for you to notice him, which you know to be untrue but you also have no idea how long he has been there.

How on Earth did he manage to get a drop on you? Again? You were trained by Local, for crying out loud. Nobody should be able to get a drop on you, or nobody who can’t fly at least. Especially nobody you were expecting. Except, possibly, Local himself. Possibly. Maybe.

“I need you to tell me everything you know about what’s happening,” you say.

“You’ll have to be a bit more specific,” Afterthought says, voice slightly muffled and with a metallic tinge in it thanks to the respirator covering the lower half of his face, but it’s not enough to hide the deadpan delivery of the words. “Always plenty of things going on in a city this size, Whiskers. If I’ll tell you everything I know we’ll be here till the next century. And then it’s not something that’s happening anymore, I’d wager.”

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Happy May 15th everyone!

For this month’s excerpt, I am going to share the alternative opening of Patchwerks: River Styx (part two of Patchwerks).

Which opening you get depends on where you choose to stay in part one.

06/15/24 Snippet

“Tsk.” Rif executes a half bow, half shrug while hefting the chest towards the wall that Rif is pointing at with her chin. “Your wish is my command, sister dearest.”

“Here, $!{name}.” Raf carefully lets her side of the chest down, then fishes for a key in her pocket. “Open your chest, so we can verify everything and then get going.”

“Heh.” Nonchalantly, you bend down to slide the key into the lock and undo the clasp holding the lid shut. “Rif… Raf… Wha —?”

A pallid face of a corpse is staring up at you from inside the trunk. The petite woman had attempted to claw her way out of the chest, but the solid lid barely shows the scratches made by the broken nails on her hands. The woman must have been in the chest a long time undisturbed because she has mummified.

“$!{name}…” Rif places a hand on your shoulder and pivots you away from staring at the corpse and towards your bed. “Why don’t you come over here for now?”

“Damn, Rif.” Raf brushes her palms together before waving her hands at the now half-opened chest and glaring at her brother. “I thought you double checked …”

“Bah!” Rif removes his hand from your shoulder and places it and his other hand on his hips while leaning towards Raf. “You’re the one who got the chest out of storage.”

“Ugh!” Raf breaks eye contact with Rif and looks down at the chest. “We’ll get her to the Parlor House, get your clothes and other items as soon as we can, $!{name}.”

“Wh —?” Your eyes remain unfocused and your thoughts are still scattered. You have been carrying a dead woman all morning through the Under City. “who is she?”

“Er.” Raf shuffles over to the bed and nudges Rif to the side, so she can sit on the mattress by your side. Sympathetically, she pats your knee. “Just a forgotten girl.”

“Yea.” Rif pivots to your other side and sits on the bed as well. Leaning back on his elbows, Rif shakes his head. “She died trying smuggle herself into the Under City.”

“Alright…” You acknowledge what the twins say, but you still do not see why Dove would have a dead woman in her storage. “But … why did Dove have her?”

“Dove wants to…” Raf stares at you and a hitch forms in her voice as she attempts to answer your question. “Well, Dove wants to try to find the forgotten girl’s family someday.”

How do you feel about this?

*choice
#Nobody will miss her. What is one dead woman, more or less?

 *set merciful %- 10
        *gosub_scene dock_arc_1_and_2_shared shared_8

Death has grown to be a familiar companion to the people living in the Under City, and to protect themselves from the constant pain and distress of loosing loved ones, people here no longer make the deep connections they once did in the Forbidden City or even the Upper City. Is such denial a blessing for those so familiar with death, or is it a tragic mistake that familiarity has created such numbness among the population in the Under City?

How can you miss a person you hardly know?

Today, my pre-beta testing officially ends. Now I start working with the feeedback I have received.

I hope everyone has a good weekend. For those in the US, remember June 19th is a Federal holiday.

. :revolving_hearts:

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How have a been a day off all week. I could’ve sworn yesterday was the 15th :upside_down_face:

Dating crisis aside, KoV proceeds… not as well as I’d hope, I’ve been a bit busy IRL. I have gotten work done, just not as much as I’d hope. One of these days I’ll be a consistent writer lol. Been debating pushing a smaller update, so as to reduce the gap between new content. Might be too piecemeal though.

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WIP thread approaching?! :smiley:

patching Patchwerks

lol, riffraff.

Uncapitalised.

“Under City” sorta sounds like the sort of place you want to smuggle yourself OUT OF, not into. :smile:

Oh, I’m sorry, do I criticise YOUR taste in decor?

Could use a comma after “and”.

“losing”

By aiming poorly, obviously!

You’re a consistently good writer (its/it’s aside :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: ), does that count? :thinking:

Obviously you’re the only one that can decide how much content is enough content for an update, but I’d like to remind you that, due to how the engine works, an update will bump ongoing playthroughs to the start of their current chapter. Which is why my personal preference is for WIPs to get updated only with fixes for gamebreaking stuff (duh), full chapters, or ones that due to variables getting added/modified require a new playthrough anyway.

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Currently helping to perform some non-professional line-editing for another project over the weekend.

Line-editing my own work is excruciating (but necessary), although line-editing someone else’s work for the first time is fairly entertaining since I get to read an entertaining story and see the consequences of all choices without actually having to make them. :sweat_smile:

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Some stuff

You appear to have the main text mostly in the third person, but you have some bits (without quotation marks) in the first person.

Uncapitalised. Also, “bony”. “bonny” is scottish slang for “attractive”

“your keen sight notices”, maybe? Either that or something else, but you’re missing a main verb for the second part of the sentence (the one that starts after “until”).

Something wrong or missing from this sentence:

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I was going to say isn’t it also some kind of hat, but that was bonnet. :person_facepalming:

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It can be a bonny bonnet, if you’d like. With a bee.

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