I don’t think anyone else did either. But yes, it got to the point where I was trying to match achievements to song titles rather than the other way around.
Btw just a quick question- what you guy’s go to mode for reading these stories?
Mine is Black background, no animate pages, sometimes smaller text if its a dense read, like parliament of knives.
I use the default settings.
That’s exactly how I do it. ![]()
Default by day, black background by night. It fits with the setting I’m in and makes sense, even though it doesn’t really make sense since I have other sources of light besides the sun.
I am going to be buying this game soon. Any advice?
What kind of advice?
Just general game advice.
What kind of experience are you looking to have?
This is really good. I mean really good. The story is 10/10. But the romance….ahh..between this and Masquerade there is some kind of obsession with making the female ROs that are easy to romance either short blue haired anarchist, or tree hugging pot head. Need more boring ROs.
I’m confused, why would boring love interests be appealing, and is “blue hair” meant to be shorthand for something I’m missing?
I don’t remember anyone with notable hair colours in this, or the Vampire games either, unless I’m misremembering Claudia’s style.
Kitty sounds like she might be who you’re looking for, though “boring” is a bit unfair on her. I liked befriending both her and Claudia in this one when I played and was very sad when I accidentally got her killed though I romanced Cormac.
Kitty has a nice romance story, but she can be difficult to romance because you’ve got to take a specific path and succeed at some specific checks at certain points and if you don’t do that then you’ll be locked out of the path.
Claudia is much easier to romance.
Boring ROs are appealing in fiction the same way in real life. Not everyone is into bad guys or girl. Same way some people don’t want to actually date a drug dealing stoner in real life. Nothing wrong with making them an option though and I’m sure some people are into them. It’s just an observation I noticed more in Masquerade and Hunter.
You’re coming through loud and clear. Next RO I write will be 40% more boring!
In all seriousness, I get what you mean. I think there’s a spectrum from “wild and crazy” to “nice and normal” and it’s good to have a range of options along that spectrum. If Vampire and Hunter ROs skew more towards the former, I’d argue that that’s at least partly a result of the premise and the setting. At least in my interpretation, Hunters are desperate, damaged people. They’re several degrees off nice and normal at the best of times. Kitty is probably the most emotionally healthy of the main cast of Beast and, not coincidentally, she’s also the one who’s least keen on the idea of staying involved in the Hunt long-term. She just wants to find and help Cormac as best she can, then go back to her life.
I think this is even more the case with Vampire. What does a nice normal vampire RO even look like? How could a vampire (or somebody who’s part of the world of the Masquerade) be nice or normal?
You should write the way you want. But your right the spectrum usually has no middle ground. Their either super crazy and would hate every nice thing you do or super nice that even stepping on an ant would get you chewed out. It’s a personal problem of mine because I my mc’s are usually not good but also not bad just the middle. So my relationship stat with the super crazy and super nice ROs are usually 0 by the end of the story hahaha.
I actually like the ROs.
I think it’s easy to make the mistake of trying to write ROs that everyone will like. In the first place, it can’t be done but in the second place, the characters will most likely come across as bland and anodyne. I think the most memorable ROs are the ones that some people are going to hate just as much as others are going to love. Plus, I think ROs should always have a couple of minor flaws, like annoying habits or less than lovable qualities or even just incompetence in a certain specific area: it makes them feel more real and less like dream boyfriend/girlfriend.
How to get Cormac surviving?
Choose to spare him in Chapter 8 (I mean, obviously, but for the sake of completeness…)
In Chapter 9, there are a few occasions on which Cormac can die:
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Getting past Old Tom or Gray while moving through Glenkildove. If you fail the check, one of your possible allies (Imane/Eamon/Judith/Cormac, in that order) will sacrifice themselves to save you (if you don’t have any allies at this point, you’ll get killed). You either need to pass the check, or at least make sure someone is in place ahead of Cormac to make the sacrifice.
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In the fight with Rory. You want as many advantages as possible - in particular, having Imane and Eamon on your side as well as Cormac will make it a lot easier, as will edges like the wolfssegen, silver bullets or Fada’s gas grenades
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In the confrontation with Noriko. You can beat Noriko if you’re aligned with the Red O’Donnells, the Society of Leopold (although not if you’re siding with Cormac), or the Duffys; if you’ve stolen and translated the text from the Magdalena; or if you’ve found and disposed of the gems from the Magdalena. You can also save Cormac by passing one of the various checks to turn on Noriko in the caves afterwards.
Hope that helps, and you save poor old Cormac!
I’m absolutely loving this game so far. The atmosphere is fantastic, and I really appreciate how much room there is to shape Groghan into my own version of a hunter while the narrative still feels tight and purposeful. I do agree with the comments about the leveling/edges feeling a bit clunky at times, but the mix of meaningful failures and all the hidden content you can uncover on replays more than makes up for it for me.
