Hero of Daria: The RPG (WIP) - CLOSED

In LoW you can summon a Demons to work for the kingdom in order to make a “weekday” a thing while in LoW your class is mainly a wizard with the choices of a druid and lich. Which raises a eyebrow which shows the Demon War haves not happen yet, showing that Demonstones have not been founded yet but advance mages can summon them. So, LoW happens before LH since the people don’t react to the Demon negatively towards this action, since even @Lucid stated that we won’t know how Demon summoners will be treated 100 years from now; I would think that people will still resent them because of the mass genocide that the demons caused. So, I’m putting all of my cards into the pot and I’m saying LoW takes place before LH!

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The largest difference is that in TLH you can be whatever you want but in LoW you are always a wizard :blush:

Nahhhhhh not really

The biggest difference from ma humble perspective is that we’ll therw are several differences…

Like for example that Daria can be a Queendom if MC is female

The Demon stones

That there’s a cult of Demon worshippers, Oh! I’m sorry a… Consortium of Summoners

Aggh :anguished: None major differences, none a difference that makes clear if Life of a wizard is before of after
either… I know I’m missing something… I Know! I’ll play those again let’s see if I find something

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This debate really makes me curious where ‘The Last Wizard’ will fit into all this.

I’m 70% certain TLH is set after LoW, however a part of me liked the idea of TLH being a epic three part backstory to a standalone title like LoW.

Nobody mentions Mobster which I’m certain is canon to the the TLH-LoW timeline, just set in modern or contemporary times (the name New Daria must derive from some old country). Perhaps its like LoTR where magic gradually dissipates with the flow of time until we reach the present era inhabited by humans and tales of Daria dismissed as ancient mythology.

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If I were a betting man, I’d say TLW is going to be about the last hurrah of magic in Daria before it winks out forever, leading to Mobster and Starship Captain happening in the future.

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That’s where you are wrong in LoW you nothing but a wizard meaning you spent you’re whole life learning magic, you MC has learn magic your MC in LH could only dream about. Seeing how you’re character could summon a demon without a demonstone and the people don’t react to it negatively shows two things one the Consortium and demonstones hasn’t been founded and two LoW people first are introduced to the idea of a weekend in the golden age ending; In LH people even use the demonstones in a nonchalant way to get out of work, maybe hearing from there grandparents about how a grand wizard summon demons to work for them showing that demons could be easily tame by someone.

(The reason why Daria can become a Queendom is your MC is the only living member of the royal family and the only/first child of your mother and father, and it is your birthright in inheritance the throne. But what I’m saying is finding out when demonstones were first discover is the answer to finding out what came first.)

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Actually, if the MC is female, Daria is already a Queendom by the time the MC is born. The game says the ruler is the parent who matches the MC gender and the other is the Consort.

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I see I see that makes sense!

The only thing that i still thinking about are the demon stones, I mean are they really magical? Or just like a formal contract? Like the celestial keys in Fairy Tail, I will explain myself what makes impossible for the Summon School to exist, maybe it went outdated with the discovery of the stones, like horses and cars in real life, maybe it went simply put together with the Consortium.

(Maybe I’m wrong here and in someplace it says that😅 but anyways is a doubt of mine)

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The end of an epic era, bridging into changing times, assuming its true. Alternately it might be about the revival of magic after some catastrophic event leaves only a sole survivor, like TLH was for Daria.

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I just realised that in LoaW you can have an affair with the princess and have a child that can possibly become king so if TLH comes after LoaW then the main character in TLH is a descendent the main character from LoaW

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Why assume that that princess is the ancestor of the MC in TLH? She could be a descendant. I think that TLH is the prequel to LoaW because TLH is about bringing non-human races into the open, and they are in the open in LoaW.

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Actually, I think LoaW comes before LH. Why? Because in LH, the war with the Vallorn is referenced. (Was that their name? The magic-less people from near the end of LoaW.) If you buy the history books from the magic items vendor in the first LH, it mentions the war with the Vallorn and that it happened a long, long time ago.

So historically speaking, LoaW comes first.

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That is my favorite headcanon (or fan-canon) so far - having the lost heir of Daria secretly descend from the legendary wizard of LoaW, the business of saving Daria running in the family.

There is still the issue of non-human species being secluded which seems to indicate either an exile after LoaW or that the trilogy is actually a prequel to it.

The second book in TLH did make mention of a coven of necromancers that once operated within the Academy, which we know happened in LoaW. There was also some war referenced in one of the history books about a non-magical people, which might also be a LoaW reference.

Most likely after the events of LoaW the non-human species were made to return to their ancestral homelands. Perhaps this exodus may have coincided with the discovery of the ancient Somreth civilization and the subsequent mining of demon stones and the formation of the Consortium.

Just a theory but maybe the potential of demon summoning (access to labor and wisdom of otherworldly beings at no monetary cost to the summoner) made the services of non-humans somewhat obsolete. But that would have required demon-summoning to actually be practiced in the first place.

Now that I think about it - King Brandon and Queen Jade outlawed demon-summoning (or their predecessors did and they upheld the prohibition), which means it could have been practiced without restriction before that royal law was passed. Something bad must have happened that convinced the monarchy of needing to strictly regulate it, hence only the Consortium being allowed.

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That’s definitely the best theory I’ve heard. Makes as much sense as anything else.

I was going to say it might have just been some diplomatic missteps of some sort; I get the feeling that thousands of years passed between LoaW and LH, assuming LoaW came first, and a lot can happen over that time span. Maybe diplomatic relations between the humans and non-humans crumbled, somehow, most likely involving the discovery of the Som’reth like you said.

But like I said, I think you’re theory is better.

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Now where is @Lucid hiding at these theories are making my spine tingle, I need some type of hint or my head will explode.

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Now that you mention that!

Has anyone realized how the orcs went from savages to savages on steroids, I mean in LoW orcs are ok to have around, granted is weird, but even if is weird the kingdom has some kind of relationship between the Orcs Chieftains and the King of Daria

While in TLH you basically ignore them cause they are way to dangerous (i think they mentioned that) and that considering that the North barbarians seem to be already violent but while they are ok, why no the orcs?

What if when the heir allowed the half-orcs fight in their army people got accustomed and eventually they sended emissaries to orc lands?

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Think… geography. :slight_smile:

There is a very large geographical discrepancy between the two games. :slight_smile:

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You are right! :slight_smile:

Something interesting is happening there too. More hints in Last Wizard, and even more in Hero of Daria. Again, it’s a geographical thing. :smiley:

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The only geographical thing I remember was the Northern didn’t exist in LoW, they were generic barbarians.

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Geography differences I can’t think on many😞 both are on Daria, the elf kingdom, the wastelands,dwarf mountain…

Is the Jilal Empire mentioned on The last heir? Cause i think is only mentioned on LoW but again I might be wrong :sweat_smile:

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Wait a second, what about the cities in LoW was Ludd, Brightwater, and Tornassa. @Lucid said it was a geography type of hint, so what if one of the main cities hasn’t been built yet we would then have a sense when LoW would have taken place.

(That’s all I got which calls for another playthrough.)

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