Guenevere (WIP)

[Lizzy]

@Cinnamages

@Lizzy I’m glad that he respected that part of your Guen. As you can tell from my previous comments, his initial reaction to an Ace Guen is not so great. Though I guess st least he does thank you for telling him and eventually apologizes…but I was still mad at him. Which is not to say that that’s the only reason why I did it. I also didn’t want to give H another chance at trying to kill Guen

He was confused with how sex between two women worked lol Given how naive he is the scene was kind of cute, if memory serves I told him to ask Lance. He did thank me for telling him though, which I took more that he was glad I felt comfortable enough to be open and honest with him.

[Cinnamages]

@Lizzy I suppose I could’ve taken that part that way too, but I was too preoccupied with the “What do you mean you don’t like sex?! Everybody likes sex! It’s human nature.” part that came before it.

[Cinnamages]

Though “don’t like” is perhaps not exactly the right wording for my Guen. She’s OK with it to please a partner she loves and/or to conceive children. She just wishes that the partner that she loves and the partner that could give her children were the same person. The thing I am concerned about regarding telling Arthur about the affair are the facts that she made a deal with him that after they conceive they’re done sleeping with each other but she slept with Morgana because she likes her…poor Arthur I hope I don’t break him

[Crystaliza]

I adore this game… PLEASE don’t take years to let us support you in your endeavours and get this baby on the market!

[lexa]

Sometimes I wished we could go all Desperate Housewives on Arthur and be like go have an affair please I just want to even the score.

[Lizzy]

@Lexa

Sometimes I wished we could go all Desperate Housewives on Arthur and be like go have an affair please I just want to even the score.

Actually I would 100% bless any relationship Arthur wants to pursue, provided I can be open with him that I’m in love with his sister. I see us more as best friends and co rulers, than really husband and wife

[Dizzie]

Just to pop in here and be sorta on topic but not really… since we’re talking about Arthur with other women-- just yesterday in the Sims 4 I switched back over to my household with the Guenevere sims only to discover that Arthur had stared a romance with some chick named Dot or Dottie while I was away. Out of curiousity I checked to see if Lance, Morgana, or Guen had any kind of relationship with this sim. Guen did. She hates the girl. Guen and Arthur aren’t even dating yet so he’s not cheating or anything which is why I find the fact that Guen doesn’t like his romantic interest really funny.

Okay! More on topic now! My main Guenevere would absolutely not be okay with Arthur pursuing anyone because while she’s having the affair with Lancelot, she does actually love Arthur too. She was already jealous over Tilda’s flirting with Lance. I’m exited for the later chapters when Elaine shows up because I already have an idea of how my main Guen will react. I feel like my alter Guen’s who aren’t with Arthur would be really wary of any woman he was interested in because 1.) Arthur’s so trusting they’d need to be suspicious enough of the girls motives for them both, 2.) They’d see her as a political rival.

I think I have one extremely anti-social Guen who’d be like ‘By the Goddess, please, let him find someone else so I can finally go back home to Cornwall.’

[Cinnamages]

My main Guen would be totally fine with Arthur pursuing someone else just as long as they still had a together, which is the entire reason she agreed to sleep with him in the first place.

With my other Guen, it depends on when the question of whether she’d be ok if Arthur had his own affair or not is asked. Pre-Mordred she would not approve of Arthur being with anyone else. Although she has admitted to Lancelot that she has feelings for only him, she has been holding back from actually acting on them because she wants to be a faithful wife even if she isn’t in love with Arthur. She’s doing everything she can to ignore feelings for another and fully commit to their marriage and she would be livid if Arthur could not do the same. She felt so much guilt when she gave in and kissed Lance back when he found her; and that’s as far as it went. (I haven’t decided yet whether this Guen will tell him to get it off her chest all the while apologizing profusely…Or since it was only a kiss, and she’s telling herself it’s never going to happen again, try to forget it ever happened) Mordred’s conception is the turning point. Despite it being nobody’s fault, she chooses to view it as Arthur being unfaithful and decides two can play that game and finally fully acts on her feelings for Lancelot. After that, she makes no efforts to hide her feelings for Lance or pretend she has any for Arthur, and she doesn’t really care if Arthur is with anyone else or not.

Also, I had a thought concerning my main Guen, and since I can’t unthink it now I’m going to share it. When I said that I hoped I didn’t break Arthur, I had originally meant that because he’d have so many things to try to wrap his brain around at once. Not necessarily in this order: You’re having an affair?! With my sister?! Wait, you like women?! (the question asked to a lesbian Guen about how it’s possible for two women to have sex) I thought you didn’t like sex! But then there’s the really tough question that will probably make me and/or him cry: you mean you never loved me, but you do love her?

And all I can picture is this, with the pronouns switched of course: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fd/d0/ba/fdd0ba7d9b3e1aed80e82ac01a751a9c.jpg

I feel like a horrible person for finding this funny.

[Asura]

[quote=“Dizzie, post:7819, topic:1996, full:true”]I think I have one extremely anti-social Guen who’d be like ‘By the Goddess, please, let him find someone else so I can finally go back home to Cornwall.’
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[quote=“Cinnamages, post:7820, topic:1996, full:true”]
My main Guen would be totally fine with Arthur pursuing someone else just as long as they still had a together, which is the entire reason she agreed to sleep with him in the first place. [/quote]

I find it hilarious that we’re on this topic, since I was literally just imagining a fanfic scenario where Guen and Morgana reverse-engineer the love curse that’s affecting Lancelot so that they can break it. Guen wants Arthur to be happy with a woman he can get along with and have a family with, so she invites Radagund over for “diplomatic relations” and casts the love curse on her and Arthur. Cue Careless Whisper.

[jeantown]

@Asura

Interesting… if that’s the case, do Morgana and Guen - provided she’s magically-inclined - also have slowed aging?

Mordred doesn’t have slowed aging, more like… enhanced perception? of time?

@Cinnamages

I’m actually really excited that this game even has an ace option and better yet, unlike the few others I’ve played with such an option, doesn’t treat ace and aro as the same thing

Thank you! It was important to me to make that distinction.

@Lizzy

I DO hope I get the chance to be honest about being with Morgana

Yup, that should happen at the end of part 2.

@Asura

Although, in Arthur’s defence - Gah, I can’t believe I’m just said that! - nothing really intimate goes on between them until the boat ride.

That’s exactly it. Until the night in Guen’s room, there’s not much to tell, and after that, there’s no opportunity to tell until the end of part 2 (though I suppose it would be pretty hilarious if Arthur was running around in the courtyard during the Night of the Doppelgangers and Guen was yelling down to him that she was in love with Morgana).

@Lizzy

He was confused with how sex between two women worked lol Given how naive he is the scene was kind of cute, if memory serves I told him to ask Lance.

The especially ridiculous part of this is that Arthur knows perfectly well that Lance has two moms; it just honestly never occurred to Arthur that women (even women married to each other) would have sex with each other, because he didn’t know they could do that – and nobody ever bothered to tell him they could. So he always just assumed Lance’s moms were celibate.[quote=“Crystaliza, post:7816, topic:1996, full:true”]
I adore this game… PLEASE don’t take years to let us support you in your endeavours and get this baby on the market!
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Haha thank you! I’m afraid there’s no way around how many years it will take to finish the whole thing, but opportunities for support may appear in the meantime.

@Dizzie The Sims story is too perfect.

@Dizzie

My main Guenevere would absolutely not be okay with Arthur pursuing anyone because while she’s having the affair with Lancelot, she does actually love Arthur too.

While I haven’t yet decided if Arthur will become involved with anyone else under any circumstances, I doubt it would happen if he has a loving and honest relationship with Guen, even if she is also involved with someone else.

[Asura]

@jeantown

While I haven’t yet decided if Arthur will become involved with anyone else under any circumstances, I doubt it would happen if he has a loving and honest relationship with Guen, even if she is also involved with someone else.

If you do, I know who I’m shipping him with. [spoiler]Arthur X Radagund OTP!

Even if it’s ultimately not possible, the way you described her makes them sound perfectly suited for one another.[/spoiler]

[lexa]

@jeantown

So he always just assumed Lance’s moms were celibate.

I’m laughing so hard at this. Poor Arthur.

[Lizzy]

Now that I’m thinking about it should I be concerned when I tell Arthur that Morgana and I are together? He’s not going to ask to watch and take notes on how we do it, right?

[lexa]

My main Guen would never allow Arthur to be with anyone else because she is possessive and selfish but she still loves him, even though she ocasionally kisses his best friend and sister.

[Lizzy]

@Lexa

My main Guen would never allow Arthur to be with anyone else because she is possessive and selfish but she still loves him, even though she ocasionally kisses his best friend and sister.

LMAO! So your Guen just wants it all!

[Cinnamages]

@jeantown I also want to thank you for writing the romances so that you don’t have to have sex to initiate them or to continue them at some point. And for giving Ace Guen the option to have sex if she wants to without it negating her asexuality. Both of these things happen depressingly too often elsewhere.

@Asura I ship it too, but unfortunately I think there are too many obstacles in the way for it to actually become a thing. For one, pursuing another monarch isn’t the best way to keep your treason on the down low. Two, I would assume that Frankmarch would want her to marry and produce heirs as well.

Not related to either of the other topics in this comment, but I thought of another quote that sums up poor Arthur when I tell him about being in love with his sister instead of him: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/32/71/e9/3271e9da75c5b79cf1cba2a862c1f5a8.jpg

[Asura]

@Cinnamages

I ship it too, but unfortunately I think there are too many obstacles in the way for it to actually become a thing. For one, pursuing another monarch isn’t the best way to keep your treason on the down low. Two, I would assume that Frankmarch would want her to marry and produce heirs as well.

Hence why I ship Radagund x Arthur. It’s a win-win scenario for both England and Francia.

[Cinnamages]

@Asura But what about Guen? Arthur can’t marry Radagund unless Guen dies or divorce is a thing that exists and that Arthur would want, either of which would defeat most of the plot.

[Asura]

Well, if Arthur and Guen never consummated their relationship then the argument for an annulment could be made, but that’s only if we assume England is Christian by this point in time, and the Church had different rules regarding marriage in the Early Middle Ages than it did later on. What the Celtic and Germanic rules regarding marriage were, I can’t rightly say. That said, who’s to say Guen has to be the (only) one guilty of adultery in this fractured fairy tale…

[ThoseCatsAintLoyal]

Isn’t cheating from the King and Queen considered a treason-type crime tho? And a very important plot point in future books.
Anyways Arthur doesn’t strike me as the type of character that will keep mistresses even if given permision by Guen. He seems the type that will just pour himself into his ideals and working hard for his Kingdom (which still remains very much his priority in life even if you romance him). And not to mention the high risk of making even more bastards. Mordred and the (optional) Guen/Lance baby are plenty of drama.

Regardless I do support having the option of going all “Yup I’m cheating, you should too hehehe” on Arthur. Depending on their relationship, that can get from a “I’m not amused, woman” to a very dramatic angsty response and accusations of “You just want to drag me to your level!!!”.

Back to topic, I expect the opposite of a non-romanced Lance. His Casanova-days might be over for good but I can’t see him becoming some type of pseudo-asexual/aromantic for the rest of his life if Guen doesn’t take him as lover.

As for Morgana I think she will just dedicate herself to her kids (just like it seems she does at the beginning of the series, in that unhappy marriage of hers) and grandkids.

But anyways, if they are done I would leave these things for the epilogues, to be honest. In a “what became of…” fashion. Mainly because we are supposed to have plenty of oportunities to start (and end) romances throughout the books. But if Arthur/Lance/Morgana/Etc. are seeing someone else then…that’s awkward and messy at best.