In my opinion and experience, forgiving traitors just makes them do it again. Thus why I an so insistent on never forgiving.
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If youāre going to make this a point about how we should make sure it never happens again, you have my full support. If you want to continue making it a point of how it should be punished and not address whether or not pardons by Arthur have lead to it happening again, I canāt support you.
Punishment purely for the sake of making the guilty suffer is not something Iām comfortable with fallible mortals like you and me inflicting on anyone, however much I despise the people being punished. It is uncomfortably close to saying that itās okay to be sadistic if you hurt the right kind of people.
Elfy. In my opinion, pardons will encourage more traitors, as I said earlier. Punishing them to me makes it less likely there will be more traitors, while forgiving encourages them. As I previously said I believe.
I never said it should be to make people suffer. Though frankly, āinfallibleā humans are, to me, the only people capable of fishing out punishment, as thereās nothing higher in my opinion (I donāt believe in a god, basically)
So how do you explain the fact the barons havenāt rebelled again?
I donāt seek too. I can admit it doesnāt always end up that way. Maybe they are merely buying time and will be some of the first to join Mordred, as he shows up and they think they can be more powerful by backing him early
I can not know what goes on in their head, and neither can you.
Forgiving doesnāt mean they will, just like punishment doesnāt mean they wonāt do it.
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Maybe.
And I think weāre in agreement that if they do rebel a second time, they need to be dealt with as unrepentant oathbreakers.
Yes. We are in agreement there.
If they rebel again they need to be dealt with harshly.
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@jeantown
How many (if any) people died in the baronsā rebellion?
(sees 100+ new posts in a DAY) Aah! 
I donāt check the forum for like 2 days and Iām buried in an avalanche of new posts! Excuse me, Iāve got to start readingā¦
@NJG Ransoming Hrothulf may just be an assumed part of the planned peace negotiations ā I think maybe Guen can internally note that she intends to ransom him? But I could maybe mention it in more concrete ways. Iāll keep that in mind when I edit part 1.
@bomsasa Not sure yet; Iām still developing the exact movements of the rebellion once it starts. Some? Iāll let you know if/when I figure it out.
Mara is correct that the barons are pro-pillaging, while Arthur, of course, does not allow it.
Ahh Iāve become addicted to your game again. Thereās no escaping, haha.
Anyway, I think thereās a tiny mistake when you talk to Arthur after having killed Hrothulf: https://36.media.tumblr.com/b353ec0efdd34ecc4b6c70ee710e48c7/tumblr_ntlk9w6lHs1rs91e7o1_540.png
Shouldnāt it be āThen he saidā? You probably already knew this, but I wanted to make sure 
Please do. We could always use some extra money.
Oh, and could we ransom Hrothulf, then after we get the ransom gold, we āaccidentallyā eliminate him?
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Iām not really sure that having Hrothulf explicitly ransomed will meaningfully impact Guenevereās spending money.
(Woooow. Done with Todayās math class. Remind me later to look up radicals and distribution)
What spending money? My Guen just gets Arthur to spoil her by getting him to buy her everything she wants himself, which granted isnāt much because ThalyGuen isnāt some superficial girly who obsesses over looks (not to say she doesnāt care, she does, just not to any insane degree. Its not like she wants a billion pairs of shoes or outfits). ā¦The most expensive part would be keeping up with her obsessive reading and book collecting.
ā¦oh. Oh you mean the money she uses to improve things? ā¦Every little bit helps there.
(According to what Iāve read wives DID have their own money the husband wasnāt supposed to use, typically to use on themselves and in case something happened to the man, so Guen should have her own money to use as she sees fit)
(Can Guen actually invest into infrastructure or the military or really anything and get Arthur to buy her stuff or do I just have to headcanon it? XD)
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Iām using āspending moneyā to mean just āthe money available to Guenevere to spend on what she wants to spend money onā - whether her personal income, what she can get from Arthur and her father, or what she can squeeze out of people one way or another.
Iām not sure the ransom goes into one of those categories - trying to make this into āI need every last copper piece I can getā would also just be really weird given how the game works so far (not even tracking money at all).
Ah, alright then.
Frankly from my limited knowledge I believe the ransom would go directly to the person who captured and was holding him. ā¦That being Guen. And such a ransom could infact be big. So it could add a sizable boost.
Keyword being COULD.
I think thatās generally the case, but Iām not sure if Hrothulf counts as Arthurās prisoner or Guenevereās as far as who the ransom is paid to.
Wellā¦ Only Mommy @jeantown could really answer that. Arthur Is head of the army holding himā¦ But Guen is technically the noble who defeated and captured him.
ā¦Mommy!! We need your input!
Yeah, sheās the boss.
I am not mom 
But as Arthur correctly states Itās your prerogative as Queen choose what to do with the guy trying kill you if your husband is not there and there is no heirs. Thatās why my Guen is not punished by slain him