I Have to say Arthur is my favorite character. Then Morgana we haven’t seen Mordred so I can’t make any judgments on him. But I’m pretty sure I’m gonna like Mordred 
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@Chriswa27 belive me i havent seen Mordred either except in Guveneres dream in part 1 , but sins i know @jeantown is an excellent writher 
i just know that Mordred is gonna be awsome! And even If I then dont like him later on, Jean is still awsome!
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@Mirabella hmm… Well, Merlin will be with you for a lot of part 3, which probably wouldn’t happen if the druids were meeting again (because he’d go to meet with them)… but who knows; maybe there will be an opportunity to see the druids’ convox in the future? I don’t have a specific plan for that, but it could happen.
@GloriaRose @Chriswa27 I’m sorry it’s going to be such a long wait for adult Mordred… ): But at least in part 3 you’ll learn about where he comes from and why he has his magic powers. Fair warning, he will be Evil. (:
@Fallaner I’ll try my best to keep everyone happy! 
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Hey everyone loves a bad boy once in awhile 
. I can’t wait!!! I also can’t wait for more interactions with merlin he has has always been a fav and @jeantown the chats that I have with him already make him seem like such an interesting charater! He reminds me of a little bit of merlin from the “sword in the stone” with his kookiness lol
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@jeantown Which banana is the banana the men i talked about or female companion ? “banana”
Btw i hope you go more of self-serving Mordred than Completely and ridiculously evil, while i would seriously prefer if you would make Mordred character just like rest of them,and not some sort of Bhuhawahaha evil.
I don’t want to see Mordred be “ridiculously” evil, but if we’re casting votes on what we want Jean to write him as, put me in favor of him being villainous.
A well fleshed out character? Of course.
But if Mordred is taking his traditional role, then Mordred should remain the archetypical warlock, pun intended - look at the word’s roots for those who don’t get what’s punny about it http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/warlock .
No need to be melodramatic. Just wicked.
Its not as if someone who was merely self-serving would have a lot of trouble getting ahead without betraying Arthur. Arthur is a generous person, a generous king, and his father - and that’s not even counting Morgana. If Mordred is going to be going that far, Mordred is clearly motivated by more than just being more ambitious than Lancelot and Morgana are.
depends on what you mean by getting ahead Mordread sure is Ambitious and Self Serving
and i mean Massively, but seriously jeantown avoided stereotypes of characters while still having them keep their place in saga, so i dont see reason to start with stereotypes now.
essentially dont force tradition at all cost find the balance between lore and story. im in favor of him being ruthless,Ambitious,Selfserving, willing to use whatever trick to get him advantages, but i would want mordred to be stil human. essentially dont make him ridicuosly evil.
at cost of invoking Godwin law i must point out that even a complete monster like hitler liked dogs, and i think having mordred Completely evil without giving him some positive atribute ridicilous after all if jeantown said that chalange with mordred will be to get him love gwen and not just using it for his advantages, then i doubt you can make Mordred without something positive.
Btw The hitler comparison isnt trolling but pointing that even that what we would call ultimate evil is still human,and quite frankly i dont want mordred to be caricature.
@Chriswa27 T.H. White’s Merlin is definitely my inspiration there. (: I loved The Sword in the Stone as a child.
@CaesarCzech banana is banana.
@CeasarCzech @Elfwine Mordred will be Machiavellian evil, not dog-kicking evil. He will also not be a broody bad boy in leather pants who just needs the love of a pure-hearted girl to redeem him. (: Guen may be able to get him to love her for real, but she won’t be able to change his nature or make him not evil. I’m hoping that the particular magical abilities I have planned for him will help explain not only the reasons for, but also the means of, his evilness. Part 1 does provide a little easter-egg glimpse of his powers. In part 3, you’ll find out where he gets them. I doubt he’ll be a caricature (unless I really fall asleep at the wheel).
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“Machiavellian evil,” which is what i described as ruthless,Ambitious,Selfserving, willing to use whatever trick to get him advantages. i think hovever that Gwen should be able to get Mordred to tone it down a bit, no redemption bull**** etc essentially if Gwen is more good then it should have some effect, Hell in reality Relationships really change people in small way, so i think you should consider if its possible to have these little effects on mordred without maming him not evil.
essentially making mordred more “Revan like in that matter(i mean Sith lord Revan, not the lighside Revan,and certainly not some Messiah battling sith empire kind(SWTOR really fucked it) )” essentially having him refreain from needless cruelty etc. basically if its possible to influence other characters a bit i think its should be possible here too, i think if somebody manages to get Mordred love Gwen and he is good enought to have some “tempering influence” on him i think he should be allow to do so. Then again im simply giving my opinions and i dont want to tell you what how etc just dont some people bias or expectancy(including mine 
) screw your work of art.
BTW now im sure its Gawain.
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Im not the only one who hates SWTOR’s Revan? 
Might i state that i love Revan and the retcon they did for KOTOR2 (Then Bioware then retconned after Obsidian retconned Revan for KOTOR2 <.<)
Would Guen be able to make him Dexter-like and direct his evil urges versus other evils? For example make him fight the Romans and other invaders instead of trying to take Arthur’s throne.
Didn’t Gawain appear in the beginning of part one?
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I think they ran in to the issue of “this is the official Revan, irrespective of what your head cannon has going on for her”. Everyone has their own image of Revan in their head, it was never going to gel with whatever Bioware Austin could come up with.
Machiavellian seems good. I don’t want him kicking puppies for the sake of it, but I think this (quoting the last because of his ambitions, if not his actual station) is very consistent with being Machiavellian:
These are the signs of the king honor-broke–
Pride coming first over all,
Treading the backs and the necks of his folk
That he alone might stand tall,
Giving himself to desires that are base,
Tyrannous, cunning and cruel
Bring him down – set someone else in his place
Such men are not fit to rule
I don’t want a one dimensional villain, but the thought of Mordred with power should be an unpleasant thought except to Guens with minds like his or entirely ignorant of what that means.
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@CaesarCech @WulfyK Guen should be able to influence Mordred to some extent. She might, for example, get him to do things differently simply because he wants to please her. She might be able to call some of his assumptions into question. But he’s just not the type to have a complete personality conversion. He’ll always want the throne; reconciling Mordred and Arthur won’t be possible (unless Guen maybe convinces Arthur to just give Mordred the throne)
@CaesarCzech @Fallaner @LordOfLA I don’t even know who Revan is anymore. ): I loved KOTOR, and then after that I couldn’t keep track of all the things Revan was supposed to be doing / have done. I saw the recent expansion for SWTOR and wondered how that would even work. It did seem like they were trying not to specify a gender for Revan in the advertising materials, which I thought was interesting. I’m surprised they didn’t just assign Revan a canon gender, given how much else they’ve apparently stuffed down the canon-shaft (according to what I hear from others).
@Elfwine Yep, I don’t think he’d be Mordred if he wasn’t driven by pride and ambition. But his motivation won’t be so much “I want to control and/or destroy everything because I can” as “Arthur is incompetent and this place needs a real king, and I’m willing to do whatever it takes to be that king.”
Also: @Owlet is correct about Gawain.
In a seriee of their dungeon-equivalents you see Revan as male. A white male. The first two parts involve breaking him out of prison as the republic. The next 2 involve KILLING Revan and HK as sith operatives (HOW THE HELL DID 4 PEOPLE DO THAT?!?! starts to murder Bioware staff REVAN IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST FORCE USERS THERE IS. AND HE ALSO INTENDED TO COMMIT NEEDLESS GENOCIDE?! CANON REVAN GOT HIS MASK BECAUSE HE FUCKING HATED THE MANDALORIANS DOING IT AND KILLING ONE OF THEIR OWN MEN WHO REFUSED!!! AND THEN HK HAS A DROID ARMY AND IS A TOP TIER ASSASSIN DROID!! HOW. THE. HELL?!) Im sorry i REALLY hate SWTOR and what they did to Revan and HK. And of course they make Revan a villian for NO REASON. WHAT. THE. HELL?!
Heres an HK-47 quote.
“When I kill, when i dispatch a target, it is not about wanton slaughter, about body count. It is about finesse, function. Doing more with less. It is art.”
@Fallaner good lord. That just screams “using Revan and HK for name recognition and nothing else.” Way to alienate the fans, Austin.
Also the ONLY REASON HES ALIVE 300 YEARS AFTER KOTOR 2 (OR 305 AFTER KOTOR1) IS ABSOLUTELY BULLSHIT. NO RESPECT FOR REVAN AND HK AT ALL! NONE!
Alienation is fucking right.
They did, Revan has always been a man as far as Bioware was concerned. Though they let the player choose the gender and light/dark side in the game. As is usually the case though, characters are altered to fit a desired story, rather than the other way around.