In the future.
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Anyone know if it’s possible to have high telepathy stats without being ousted as a telapath?
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It is, got couple sidesteps like that myself
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Yes, and it pretty extensively so too…
Its entirely possible to end rebirth with both stats at 80 or above without being ousted as a villain telepath
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Thank you.
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The only choice that reveals your villainsona as a Telepath and increases your stats is using the Telepathy upgrade to make the guards attack each other in a non lethal way. That gives a +20% to subtlety and is the best option if you don’t care about exposing yourself.
If you mean that neither persona is known as a Telepath, well, you’re sacrificing a bit more, since you’ll have to choose between +20% to subtlety or will, instead of both, and without entering Argent’s mind it takes away the option of getting I think a +10% to either subtlety or will with the right choices.
If you want a guide to all the other choices to increase your telepathic stats just ask, although I’ll admit I’ve never actually done a run with a “powerless” Sidestep.
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That is the highest ive been able to raise my telepathy stats. Done multiple runs last night and for the life of me i can’t get both force and manipulation to 80.
If you have a guide, I’d really appreciate it.
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Alright, I’ll give you a list in order of how to increase your stats. I recommended being ruthless and taking the telepathy upgrade at least.
At the very beginning
“My will is stronger” +10 will
Or
“I am cleverer” +10 subtlety
“I try my best argent impersonation” +2 subtlety
For retrieving the box later, go as yourself and approach the crowd. It will cause a +10 to steel clue as well as big increases to daring and arrogance, but it’s necessary.
“I encourage him to remember this slight” +5 subtlety, sets Joshua as Anti-rangers and reduced rangers rep by 5. My favourite to do here.
Or
“I push him to escalate this” AND “This is getting risky. Let it play out” +5 will and gets Joshua fired. The others will get him promoted and either hurt or improve rangers rep as well.
Next up is the first heartbreak flashback
“No, I can handle it” +10% will and a bit more arrogance
Or
“No, I’m curious about it” +10% subtlety and a bit more arrogance
Talking about your telepathy with Ortega is a big one, if you admit to having it, it’s a +20% to both subtlety and will after entering the Rangers’ headquarters, and a lot of arrogance. If you say you don’t have it, you have to choose
“Keep my shields strong” +20% will
Or
“Keep my powers dormant” +20% subtlety
Additionally, entering Argent’s mind gives opportunities for stat increases as well, so I recommend just saying that truth.
Anyways, next is the big heartbreak flashback, and oh boy this is the biggest stat increase opportunity.
If you just want big numbers, go with
“No, I’m smarter than this” +10% subtlety AND “I can’t do this, I feint” +10% will and then either
“Stop this. This is not me.” +20% will
Or
“I need to hide. Don’t make me remember” +20% subtlety
Or
“I need to wake up” both +10% will and +10% subtlety.
But you can only take revenge, hunger or outsider scars with this.
Both the puppetmaster and friendless scars can only give you +10% subtlety and +10% subtlety if you want them, while suicidal can be obtained with either +10% subtlety and +10% subtlety or +10% will and +10% will. If you’re wondering about the last one, you need to choose to “I won’t let it in” and “I keep moving to handle this” and immediately give up and put the gun to your head.
Anyways, we’re almost at the end now.
If you did admit to having telepathy in order to enter Argent’s mind, there are some opportunities for stat increases.
“I keep a light touch, gently altering her mind” +10% subtlety, go wild.
“I cut deep” AND “no distractions, straight to my goal” +10% will.
Finally, if you took the Telepathy upgrade, fighting Herald
“Last time, I didn’t have telepathic powers this strong” +20% subtlety and herald humiliated.
Finally, after the battle, you should look for Ortega at the hospital, and this is where Ruthlessness matters.
Depending on wether or not your puppet sleeps with Mortum, after you go back to your own body if you have over 60 ruthlessness you get
+20% to subtlety if you sleep with Mortum
+20% to will in any other scenario.
Unfortunately, it gives a +10 to steel clue as well.
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You’ve literally given me Christmas. Been wanting a perfect playthrough in rebirth since retribution released, and now i can do that thanks to you.
Seriously, thank you 
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Good luck, if you’re worried about steel clue getting too high, if you have over 80 subtlety you can completely delete his suspicions of you if you keep a good relationship with him and he considers you more of an enigma or not really a villain, you can hang out with him and delete all of his suspicions. My main Sidestep does that after raising both doubt and clue as an anarchist.
Also please show me how your build ends up.
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Gotcha. And thanks again.
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I use CoG and HG as a power fantasy so all of my characters are named Konstantin and also my family name if this is changeable and I not playing some royal character.
Question!
So I think I read somewhere at some point that there would be an update(?) on the Rebirth. Idk if that still holds, but i wondered if anyone knows whether it might include the chance to go to the museum gala as friends with Mortum.
Is that possible to even include? I (think) I read somewhere that adding variable new this and variable that might mess saves up, but that’s all a big question mark for me so I am asking in case someone knows better than me
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I think there will be Rebirth update; checkpoints, various small things, bugs fixing etc.
But I don’t know if this option will be available, sorry.
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This is gonna be a long shot, but is it possible to do all of the following in the same playthrough without modding the boolean flags:
- Be tactician
- NOT be known as a telepathic villain
- Win against Argent in the sewers and impress her
- Argent steals cape
- Pull her out of the sewers
- Steal a sample of her hair
Edit: Okay, after excessive code-diving, I think I was able to piece that it is not possible to steal a sample of her hair (requires fighter) AND have her steal the cape (requires tactician), which fair—makes sense since you can only take her hair if she faints lol. No sense in not taking the cape back in that case. Otherwise, you might be able to do both in a fighter run by having her as a rival and studying her (can’t do this cuz honestly, this… is too messed up for my SS).
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Only requires strength upgrade, however, if you do knock her out long enough to take the hair, you take your cape as well.
These two are opposite as well, you can impress her giving her a good enough fight, but it’ll be closer to a draw. You need a high daring fighter with strength or speed to properly win that fight.
What you can do with a daringly min maxed fighter is get armor and strength, break Herald’s knee, win perfectly against Ortega, send Argent flying on the surface and win the fight perfectly down on the sewer and take her hair.
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I think you can say it requires fighter indirectly, because only as a fighter you can produce a situation where you’re in position to even attempt taking the sample.
No, we can certainly say it doesn’t. In order to take a sample, you just need to make her faint, and you can do this with telepathy.
Over 70 subtlety or the telepathy upgrade, and you knock her unconscious.
Over 70 willpower and telepathy upgrade? You can brute force it
If you still have the sword of Damocles you can skip the stat check
Or you can even start out trying to fight her physically, even if she inevitably pins you to the wall, you can take her out if you have telepathy upgrade, and over 75 subtlety or willpower, or, even, just use the sword of Damocles once more.
A strength telepathy tactician is my favorite build.
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Ohh, fair enough then. I roll with strength/speed and only check the other paths through code diving, so i didn’t remember the telepathy-specific stuff.
I just want to say that… Sometimes the mental break scene, the memory scene, the trauma, the dreams and all of that kind of thing is not my thing, i feel a bit of cringe when i read that, a bit disgusted also, i wanted my mc to just focus on what’s next but those type of stuff always came back idk why, so its just make me lazy to read 
