… do I dare ask?
Oh thank god, it’s not just me.
Oh look, it’s the entire plot of Black Panther. I wish they’d just filmed Ta-Nehisi’s comic run instead.
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the only isekai that I read is from mahnwa (like a manga version in Korea) with female protagonist.
The plot basically the same, but the one I avoided the most are the one that built as if in a game, like you don’t solve the problem through anything your own doing, but based on quest that magically give you a tool that too op.
also, cw: grooming
not related to isekai, but I also often avoided something like ‘found family trope’ in manga/mahnwa. Often the plot went on dark side with the supposed parent marrying their adopted children which is SO GROSS since the ‘parent’ treated them as their own child UNTIL they grow into adult.
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I have similar, but distinct opinions on redemption arcs. If I really like and sympathize with a villain, I probably do want a redemption arc, and there have been times where I thought villains were perfectly suited to redemption arcs but didn’t get them. However, I also hate it when the villain is literally only entering as a villain and is completely irredeemable, but then they make them start acting pitiful and shoehorn in a tragic backstory (note to authors, tragic backstories aren’t enough, they need to be built up and proportional to the villain’s actions) and we’re just supposed to ignore all of those murders.
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It says I can’t post media here or otherwise I’d show it to you lmao.
Sadly I haven’t read his comic yet but yeah Killmonger went from “Oh he PREACHING.” to “Wait WTF?!” like omg why would you destroy the herb that provides power and honors Bastet?? Why are you just trying to provide military aid to our kinfolk but not providing food, medicines, free Wakandian educations, infrastructure and agriculture deals, and diplomatic authorities to have thieving nations removed from Africa and improve the standards of living and human rights to Black people abroad???
Omg THANK YOU for bringing this up. I HATE the whole “Wife Husbandry” trope just as much as I hate the 3,000 year old dragon-child wifeu. And fans of such a vile thing will argue you DOWN about how it’s okay when it’s not. Like in Yashahime, Sesshomaru could’ve had ANY human woman he wanted but he chose the one he was caring for as a child (idc if it was only a year or two)?!
I agree 100% and I probably should’ve worded it better as I meant villians who are truly about that villian life and don’t care for redemption but the writer does. Zuko’s redemption arc in Avatar: the Last Airbender was quite literally one of the best in media as even in the beginning it showed his desires to catch the Avatar was only to please his father and return home.
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I mean the whole point of Killmonger was that he had genuine grievances but only cared about revenge, not actually helping people, and specifically wanted everyone to be subjugated as black people historically have. He’s basically an ethnonationalist.
I do legitimately hate this trope and I see what you’re saying, but Killmonger being cited as the main example irks me since he was basically a direct defiance of this exact trope. The heroes DID acknowledge his points. His criticisms of Wakandan isolationism were openly acknowledged. Wakanda is stated to be opening up to the world at the end. Black Panther basically said “what if the guy who says the secret advanced society hiding their secrets is wrong is actually right, and we DON’T just ignore that after we beat him?”
That’s actually why I really liked that movie because the “masquerade that hides all the cool stuff from normal people is a good thing and any attempts to break it will be foiled” is another trope I hate.
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I cant stand “but thou must” and plot contrivances meant to force a character down one specific solution.
The ending of the first Soul Stone war drives me up a wall, I just want all of those stones destroyed. The concept of refusal equalling death when the implication of accepting these things means a part of you dies just makes my skin crawl.
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He didn’t want to make things better. He wanted revenge. Against Wakanda for killing his dad, and against the world for being awful. His goal wasn’t to better the conditions of black people, it was to stomp everybody else down.
The movie even addresses this in a way, because at the end Wakanda realizes that Killmonger had valid points, and that they should have been helping the world instead of hiding from it. So they don’t just go back to the status quo after the villain is defeated, they decide that they’re going to try to fix their mistaked and use their resources to improve the world.
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Oh he was the perfect foil for the trope as “Killmonger was right/wrong” debates have been going on for years now. The only thing I didn’t like was how he seemed to want to help then just immediately went nuclear.
Yeah that was my only gripe with him as a character and the writing, otherwise he would’ve been the perfect “villain” to me.
I think the “but thou must” of the first game was necessary just to show how invasive and borderline evil the stones are. I do hope there is a stone destruction route for players who want it in the future books.
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I feel like that was reasonably established enough if youre opposed and refuse initially.
Because the way they try to convince the character is in no way benevolent at all. Especially since they could presumably allow the MC a moment to resolve the situation in the real world but elect not to, and instead use it as a way to manipulate some form of acceptance under duress.
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I think the cruelty of it comes from the dragons seeing humans as playthings and food combined with their desperation to form a symbiotic relationship with the weirder to stave off that disease killing them.
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Yeah I feel ya. Though I also hate the whole “destroy the cool thing because no one should have this power” bs. I could do tons of good with that power, I’m not destroying it.
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This is why I’m so cautious reading spyxfamily. I doubt it’ll go in that path, I REALLY HOPE IT WILL NOT GO IN THAT PATH, but I’ve been tricked into that degenerate false ‘found family’ plot SO MANY TIMES 
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What dragon waifus? Which show is that example from?
Lmao I know what you mean, that’s why I usually wait a while until reviews come out for a shows/games etc.
I was using “dragon waifus” as a broad term for child characters that are objects of love and lust for viewers/players/writers/artists but they defend it under “she’s not a child, she’s 3,000 years old!” However there is an actual example of dragon waifus in Fire Emblem: Awakening where Nowi and her daughter Nah clearly look like children.
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It won’t. Haven’t seen it yet but I’m pretty sure she has a LI her own age.
Oh man, did season 2 of dragons blood mess about with everything, it almost encapsulates every trope I hate.
- Killing off characters to create a sense of loss doesn’t work if they are just introduced especially when all the established core characters survive
- fake politics, if you’re gonna go through political intrigue and strategising don’t just simplify it and make it non sensical, several isekai and anime have this and I despise it, if you’re going to do it fine but do it proper, having 3 scenes to establish the voting of a regent is not doing it justice especially when a scene later it’s shown that the vote didn’t even matter.
- and I think this is my most hated trope, having some massive battle at the end just to make it sequel bait, I hate massive nonsensical final battles, dragons blood did it in s1, and while I didn’t like it, it made sense, S2 just takes it to another level with whatever that big bad guy was at the end, throwing so much junk and destroying everything that was built up to it and every side characters dynamic messed up as well. I get it, final battles are the culmination of the story what everything is leading up towards but that doesn’t matter when everything before it is discarded, we didn’t need a big evil monster for a finale in s2 more politicking would have been fine, maybe a fight with established conflicts, instead of what we got.
- and another hated trope, over powered enemies defeated by overpowered good guys. The bad guy seems stronger than terrorblade, than anyone really, he obliterates everyone and then is stopped by some lore breaking power given to a character it makes little sense to have that then destroys any conflict in the next season, this power defeated that monster thing, what chance does terrorblade have. In before there are nerfs to that power or some convenient excuse as to why it’s not there or can’t be used.
Everything I loved about dragons blood season 2 got spat on and destroyed in the last episodes, and I blame the tropes I mentioned as to why I probably won’t tune in for season 3
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The fact is the What If where he ‘saved’ Tony Stark proved him to be more of a villain than ever, if capable of a greater master plan.
Doom is a character I am curious to see if the MCU because there is a strong chance he’ll have elements of Killmonger’s character if portrayed properly - belief his way of ‘saving’ the world is the best one as long as he is the one ruling it.
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again tw grooming
the thing is, many of the storyline have what I thought at first their own li who is appropriate for them. But they like to steer the wheel in the last minutes and… do that. For example in Usagi Drop where it show a good father daughter bonding for more than half of its manga, with both the father and daughter has their own li, just for them to marry each other in the end…
Hence why I still catious but hopeful that spyxfamily will not fall into that same path…
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That type of plot where the caretaker of a child ends up marrying the child once they grow up is just no. No no no. 
Personally I’m confident that spyxfamily won’t go down that route, so far I’m really enjoying both the manga and anime, and I do have faith in the author that they know what they’re doing, but if it ever goes down that route then I’m gonna be so disappointed and disgusted.
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