Oooh I didn’t even realize these options had effects! But even still it had to be negligible because I didn’t notice a difference at all, and I skipped the corn maze!
Hmm this is odd. You are actually right, but i could swear that there was energy gain included in that option, but now it seems to be gone, as is the endurance gain/condition loss from the maze. I’ll have to do some more digging regarding that later.
Quick question, how are y’all reading the code on cogdemos? I know some games don’t allow you to see the code, but I figured since people are talking about code diving on here, it’s possible for CTOS.
I can’t believe I missed that lol, thanks for pointing it out
When you launch the game:
the rightmost button will take you to page which lists all files of the game. Clicking on eye icon next to filename will load that particular file, and you can view the game script it contains.
Wholeheartedly agree with this comment.
I usually play this game as someone who’s super serious, stoic, and who only cares about tennis and getting a good grade, so not only being forced into even more of the social stuff, but having a personality that’s suddenly much more friendly, playful, and outgoing while doing it does massively take me out of it (no way in hell would my MC even entertain going to the Halloween party, let alone be that happy about it. I genuinely don’t care all that much about my teammates beyond tennis lol).
I appreciate that a lot of players like this kind of content, but I really wish we could have the option to skip more of the social stuff (like the fall festival and, especially, both the Halloween party and subsequent sleepover) if we wanted to, even if it means having less content.
Expanding more on what you said, I think it would also be nice if there were some more choices generally earlier in the game at certain points if you’re playing as a more reserved/serious MC. The one that stands out for me is the way some characters are way too touchy-feely with the MC. Tobin is the worst for it (which is a shame because on the whole I enjoy their personality), and the way you’re basically forced into either hugs or chest bumps with them after playing doubles genuinely makes me super uncomfortable (I know they quickly apologise afterwards, but when they hug us after our training match against Jacks and Rayyan for example, I get quite angry and want to tell them to fuck off); no longer having the option the avoid the hug with our roommate is also disappointing (not sure why that choice was removed).
I honestly don’t have a huge problem with physical contact (I’m not touch averse or anything), but unsolicited touching (especially when it’s hugging and that sort of thing) has always been a massive bugbear of mine (I like hugs, but please ask me first).
To be fair, even Rayyan attends the Halloween party, and the earlier one after start of the season. I don’t think your MC is going to outgrump Rayyan, no matter how hard they try. Or at the very least, taking part isn’t going to damage their image. /s
Well, I’m still going to try anyway. Forced, unnecessary social interactions be damned
yeah to beat rayyan on that matter will be hard^^
but i get people where maybe want it differnt for the stoic type and not really caring about the team only caring about the own carrer but i dont see problems with the party either my mc is in this game more playfull and open and takes everything how it comes sport busniss was and will be always hard to get really pro in and making it, so my mc dosent say no when it works but at the same time he focus also on studies so he has a secound end plan
I let the Halloween party slide cause there is a point where you can say your hall mates forced you into joining (which the MC says jokingly when I want my MC to MEAN it lol) but with the fall festival the MC is automatically 100% on board which is where I knew I needed to make a little suggestion.
I love my little icy grump MC and it’s gonna take him a lot more to start meltin
I… don’t think you meant years here. (“knowledge and develop an intuitive connection with ${national_doubles_partner} over the past couple of years, but”) It hasn’t been years, I don’t think.
Totally feel you on the forced social stuff! My MC is all about tennis and serious vibes, so skipping the parties would be awesome. And yeah, unsolicited hugs? No thanks! A bit more choice for the stoic types would be great!
Having a great time tearing through a few runs of this. Tobin is adorable. The matches are a lot of fun (even if sometimes it is like “ah. my build is not very good” lol), and I thriiive off the relationship drama.
One thing I should mention. I get that Tobin hasn’t experienced same-sex attraction before but like. Haven’t they already had a queer experience? Felix is nonbinary. It feels a little weird to frame that as I guess, not counting.
Also, I’m enjoying the Mess a lot. Just did the thing of having the two way open relationship with Sam and Genevieve and Sam’s reaction to being told was heartwrenching and emotional. I hope that MC gets to like, stand their ground/argue their corner at least a little bit though? Cause on the one hand, there’s a degree of like. Yeah, MC slightly pressures Sam into it, even if unintentionally. But also, the two of them explicitly have established where their relationship is, and MC has acted entirely within that. I get why Sam is upset and hurt, and I get why MC would feel guilty, but they’re also, not really in the wrong, and I’d hope that it can be brought up.
(it’d be nice if there could be a bit more clarity/nuance with the like. What ‘open relationship’ is meaning, also. At one point I clicked ‘commit to Genevieve’ without realising it’d made MC break up with Sam and had to reload; I thought it was establishing MC didn’t want to be ‘just’ FWB with Genevieve. Similarly, asking for an open relationship with Genevieve, it took me off guard for it then to be described as FWB. I guess I misread things because of how the narrative treated the stuff with Sam a bit earlier, particularly as it was described as polyamory).
(Basically, I thought MC was going ‘I would like to date you, but I would also like to date someone else’. It felt framed like that, anyhow)
Bugs?
Something weird happened with my description.
This happened with Sam’s rel. We were in an open relationship but then I told her about sleeping with Genevieve. The game also a couple times referred to me ‘hooking up with Felix’ and there were parts where it was like… talking about ‘what I’d done’ in the same way as it does if you actually cheat on someone with Felix. Which didn’t sit entirely right with me? I can understand feeling some level of guilt but it’s a slightly different situation.
I think queer in this case means explicitly the same biological sex. While Felix identifies as nb they’re at the same time “assigned Tobin’s opposite gender at birth” so to speak, so that’s still significantly different experience for them from sexual interaction with same-sex MC.
Both the game and MC who is in open relationship with Sam/G do treat sleeping with G and/or Felix differently, in terms of guilt, than it does treat such event for exclusive relationship MC, but Sam simply takes such news hard regardless. The talk with them and their reaction do go somewhat different too, though.
I really wish there was a “sure, I guess” option for partnering with Tobin after being paired with Emerson for doubles. I love Tobin but after the challenge matches (lost vs Rayyan and Jacks, won vs Tobin and Deepal), my MC is really not convinced she and Tobin will make good doubles partners and would rather trust the coaches’ judgement. I realize three possible doubles partners would be way too branchy, but I do wish I were able to express (even to myself) more reluctance about partnering someone I don’t think I play well with.
I have also noticed that the game seems to assume I switched from Rayyan to Tobin, even though that’s not the case.
Mm nope, because that does not account for a trans MC.
Which like, to be clear, is good. Because ‘you’re a trans girl so this is the same as getting with a guy’ (and the opposite) would be uh. Bad.
I don’t think there’s any issue with Tobin getting taken aback and not quite sure how to handle being attracted to somebody of the same gender when that’s new to them. It’s more that this is then extrapolated to being new to queerness in general, and that doesn’t sit quite right to me when their ex is nonbinary. Like, there’s queerness in that relationship too.
Also, like.
Kissing Tobin
For a moment, the two of you remain silent, still catching your breaths, though you can see Tobin’s mind come alive again, even as yours continues spinning slowly, like a colorful carnival ride.
“You know,” she says, so softly that it barely makes ripples in the silence between you. “I’ve only ever kissed boys. Until you.”
I figured that there are differences, cause the vibe wasn’t exactly the same with confessing to G about cheating w/Felix vs bringing up Genevieve to Sam. But some bits were definitely bugs (because I had not hooked up with Felix period in the latter one, and the game said I did). Otherwise, ut may be me just overreacting to the narration where MC gets a hug from Daniela and it says ‘you don’t know if she’d be consoling you if she knew what you’d done’ for both circumstances
I wasn’t going to get into that because like you note, yes, this would be a separate can of worms if handled in this manner, so for this reason i think we can (or at least, the game does, and i was in my initial post) consider trans MC identical with cisgender one. So, for both of them Felix is “the opposite gender” while their tennis partners are the same gender as themselves.