Choice of Rebels: Uprising — Lead the revolt against a bloodthirsty empire!

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#1884

Ahem, I think you’re forgetting Hector and his merry little band of murderers there, they are unnecessarily cruel, even for the Hegemony.
In any case Hector seems like the perfect example of a sadist, not just to my mc but to me as well. Calea may also be one, with her helot “lovers”, but that is more subject to interpretation and gray areas.

Sure, and one of the features of the caste system is still the utter lack of social mobility, which is why helot mc’s like mine who want to move upwards in the world need to break it in order to be able to do so.

Hope you and the family have a better and nicer new year’s celebration in the new house then. Hope you also have an actual garden with it, as kids (well anybody really, but they’re particularly vital for kids and senior citizens) could use (more) green spaces, imho.


#1885

In Game 2, will we be spending one or two chapters in the Xaos-Lands, and will the Grand Shayard chapters be the final two?


#1886

“Unnecessary” cruelty is hard to judge in a system that relies on high levels of systemic violence, especially when facing a rebellion that openly threatens that system. A Shayardene noble doesn’t need to be a sadist to decide that what’s needed in the face of revolt is some salutary brutality; many social currents will nudge them in that direction.

The most cruel thing that Hector and co. do is in essence a crucifixion… And of course one of our own world’s most successful empires took for granted that this was a necessary level of cruelty when it came to putting down slave revolts. The Romans had an impressively horrific arsenal of cruelties, not (I suggest) because they had more sadists than neighboring cultures, but because empire encourages the development of such an arsenal.

From the perspective of the helots, of course, it doesn’t make much difference whether Hector is cruel because he gets off on it or because he’s an angry, fearful young man willing to do whatever he deems necessary to preserve the social order on which his family depends.

We do have more green space around our new place, happily.

@KuriosIasoun: my plan for Game 2 is one (long) chapter in the Xaos-lands, one chapter in rural Shayard, and two chapters in Grand Shayard.


#1887

For me as a modern jurist it does figure quite heavily into it tho. But that is probably something where my sentiments as the reader play a relativley big role over me roleplaying my mc. However I think it is not out of line for my mc to perceive Hector as even worse than most of the other nobles, exactly because he seems to be getting his jollies from acts of wanton cruelty.


#1888

Apologies if this is too spoilery, but is the rural Shayard chapter going to be spent travelling and checking on your band(assuming you’re not travelling with them)?


#1889

For various reasons, mainly to do with Plektoi/Theurge teams combing the RIm with your scent in their nostrils, you’ll spend that chapter remotely engaging with your band. They’ll periodically come out to meet with you, but you won’t go into the Rim to meet them.

Meanwhile, you’ll also get to see the impact of your rebellion on rural areas outside the Rim, and the ways the anarchy you’ve fostered is affecting institutions both unsympathetic and sympathetic.


#1890

That sounds really interesting, However due I have two on anarchy and have not killed or even stole a single chicken… I suppose I didn’t cause any change except hope and paranoia. Oh I dying to kill Breden in a public jury and then to the pyre for heretic. Except if there is other way to Shayardene of old execute traitors and heretics …


#1891

Happy New Year @Havenstone and everyone :slight_smile:

So there aren’t any yearly celebrations in this world ??

Would the Halots get extra foods or holidays from their Aristocrat lords here ? :wink:


#1892

I imagine that would be entirely up to the Lord, consider the mc was a Keriatou piece of blood-cattle and they are noted to be harsher with their livestock then many of the other noble families, I’d guess no.


#1893

Angelday and Barningday.


#1894

Who leads Halassur?

Will there be any major battles in Game 2 or will it be more subterfuge focused?


#1895
  1. Halassur is an Empire, led by an Emperor, at least nominally. We don’t know enough about it to accurately gauge its power structure. So their Emperor could be anything from an absolute dictator to a mere figurehead, for all we know.

  2. Only the author can answer that one.


#1896

Yet the narrative already allows for such a judgment to be made. Should the player go for trials at Rim Square and choose the merciful option, they’re indeed making a distinction - specifically, you’re executing the Thaumatarchy’s enforcers for unnecessary and (even by Karagond standards) unlawful violence, which nearly all Alastors are involved in (and many of the aristocracy are also guilty of - but not the MC, Simon/Suzane or Mikal de Rose, for example). This is also part of the ruthless MC’s complaint to Breden. So there’s clearly a line to be drawn somewhere.

Of course, to most helots, the distinction between a corrupt Alastor or noble and an idealistic defender of the Hegemony is a moot point. But making such distinctions and upholding the concept of justice and the rule of law is absolutely helpful if you want to bring the existing aristocracy, clergy and bureaucracy to your side. (If, as @idonotlikeusernames would say.)


#1897

Hector and Calea being the prime examples, Hector is pretty much an outright sadist who seems to delight in cruelty. Calea might or might not be one too, even if she keeps it more circumspect and confined to her involuntary helot “lover boys”.

If indeed! Though my mc does need at least the some of the merchants and the lower-echelon bureaucrats, like Bleys, for example. So it does apply to him, only he himself applies it more selectively than some other mc’s might choose to do.


#1898

Calea’s worse than Hector, at least from what we’ve seen on-screen. She coerces helot men into sex, and then murders them when she’s done simply to clean up after herself. She’s violating law, Canon, and basic humanity, and she only gets away with it because no one speaks for a helot.


#1899

@Havenstone Will Bleys still be playing a part in our rebellion in later games?


#1900

If he’s alive, yes.


#1901

I however, is more curious and intrigued with the future development of Calea … so we had witness Calea will go to great length to “help” us, but how deep her loyalty roots with us ? :-):hugs:

She is the contact in enemy territory , will she be an asset or a bane in future… i have to admire Calea courage though, since she should know a kryptast was in our rebel camp but took great risk to deliver that good will information for us…

I am considering however, should i be so bold to meet with her next time? Could it be that a trap will be awaiting me in future ?

More interesting development will be … what if News of Calea had been captured and awaiting execution ? Should i attemp to rescue my dear cousin ? Or will it be a trap ? :-):thinking:


#1902

Not very. She’s playing both sides of the fence in the hopes of keeping Keriatou power intact.

I doubt that she’d do anything so crude as setting a trap at a meeting, but she probably shouldn’t be trusted with any sensitive intel.


#1903

Belatedly: Halassur is indeed led by an Emperor. You don’t yet know much about him, but will find out more in Game 2 Ch 1.

As for major battles, those are due to really start in Game 4, the back half of which will all be about the siege of the Hegemonic capital, and continue into Game 5. There will be some minor battles in Game 2, but by and large, those will be of the urban warfare sort that can be hard to distinguish from an especially bad riot.