Sorry, accidental summons. 
I thought I had something more to say about the ethics of self-defense, but changed my mind.
There will be other paths, including various less-violent or non-violent ones. In Game 2, in particular, Mara de Jade will face the (perhaps welcome?) opportunity to let a helot lieutenant take over the Rim Commotion and refocus her own efforts on winning over the nobility of Grand Shayard.
Me ??? Leaving a helot to rule and… 
You are so funny 
A helot he says…
I knew it!
Aveche is still considered a major Shayardene city? I thought the Hegemony gave it to Erezza 300 years back.
I suspect @idonotlikeusernames would much rather call his future capital Avezia just to spite the Laconniers. 
Am I not already trying to consistently refer to it by its proper name? 
Do let me know if I slip up. 
I fully expect what remains of Grand Shayard to be the basis of the Laconnier pretenders by then. Besides if my mc is to have any chance of doing what the Chinese nationalists failed at he really needs Avezia as base to work outward from.
If people more in touch with Shayardene nationalism still think it is…I mean it is Horion who said so, though as always with Horion I don’t know how he truly sees it himself, it is almost a given that the Laconniers and people like Hector and likely even Simon or Suzanne do view it that way. Which is why it becomes all the more important for my mc of Shayardene heritage to make sure to consistently refer to it by its proper name too, in order to assure the native Erezziano that he is not a new Shayardene occupier.
That would leave us in the very unenviable position of one of the most minor illegitimate warlord cliques, considering how backward and relatively unimportant of a region the Rim is. Long-term that can only lead to being conquered and re-absorbed in whoever comes out on top in either Shayard if the Hegemony fractures or the Hegemony as a whole. Either way, it is presumably just a somewhat slower death sentence for a helot daring to turn warlord. Unless it is possible to essentially take those minor lands and defect to either the abhumans or Broracha/the Xoas lands, but that still means subjugating yourself to an alien overlord in exchange for protection.
You have said that no one would have a perfect happy ending unless she mods the game. Well… I mod the game. Aliki Liddelatou is 2COM 2INT 2CHA, with Suzane and female Breden on her side. (Don’t misunderstand me. What I have bragged on the forum about non-violence path that brings 300 followers through winter with 0 casualty, and some other challenging feats, I did it without any modding.)
So… how perfect is an ending that my 6COM 6INT 6CHA Aliki could achieve? assuming her way is complete non-violence in all circumstances, including self-protection. I expect her to be…
How many of these are achievable in the same playthrough? (with the only cheats are mc’s stats and lieutenants’ gender)
Also… just wondering, some names are aristo-sounding, like Calea and Suzane. Some are helot-sounding, like Elery and Breden. Some are neither, like non-european names. By the way, in real life I am known by my friends as ‘Jinny’. Jinny is a helot name. Isn’t it? And my boyfriend is known as ‘Alpha’ (his nickname). Alpha is likely not a popular aristo name. But is it thinkable that some noble House may name the male heir ‘Alpha’? I want to find out whether I’m having an inter-caste relationship…
Well, perhaps Simon/Suzane will be qualified to command your peaceful chaos in the Rim? Ensuring that the rebellion remains aristocratic and all such.
You are saying that for uprooting the Hegemony, it is imperative to have high anarchy.
Then it serves no good to limit your activity in Chapter-02 for getting a low anarchy.
Rather a low anarchy would make it difficult to take control of a region from the Hegemonic authority.
It seems low anarchy would only give you a semblance of support(donation) from the merchant class only. But when you opt for the tougher path, they would abandon your cause altogether. And then you would have to resort to theft for survival of your rebellion.
Isn’t there any way of defeating the Hegemony by waging a great war and then ruling its territories while still having a low anarchy level ?
No, If you fight and raid and salvage You will have anarchy, violence and chaos. That’s how world works. If not reme how live were in medieval times with nobility wars going on. There were chaos, riots rape and slaughter everywhere. If you destroy with violence Violence and chaos multiply. …
I would imagine this would come in terms of what your rule would look like afterwards. A high anarchy may make it easier to win, but would likely also make it harder to maintain and grow. Rather than your movement being an actual movement, it would be an assortment of brigands that came together for the purpose of overthrowing a regime. Once that’s over, it may be an “every man for themselves” free for all situation, at least that would make more sense as a counter balance.
Having a low anarchy has shown already that other houses will look favorably to you as well as potentially back you outside of the merchants. This would likely result in more groups being sympathetic to your views as well as other houses actively using their wealth and influence to side with you and your cause.
While I don’t think a full on “Ghandi-route” could work, creating an actual movement that doesn’t burn down everything in your path will be better in the long run. One man’s opinion.
Havie has said a pure Gandhi route will work if you have high charisma and meddle in religion.
I am doubtful of full gandhi route too… does it means mc just sit there and does nothing when the government troops take you :-)
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Once the troops take MC into the dungeon, honestly i don’t think he/she will even survive one day … 
MC: I won’t eat unless you free my people.
Government: Good. Saves on food. * locks door *
Gandhi not for Gandhi, Gandhi . My character is nick Evil Gandhi lol. So that’s all the Gandhi about. Real Gandhi has no relationship with one concrete religion.
But Mara… you really shouldn’t just sit idle and refuse to eat when the Hegemony troops arrest you… that is not good for your health at all :-(
If The hegemony capture me I am done so totally go like a martyr. I have no army no power except for capture the mind and fanatism of the people. Until I get part of the army I have no anything. The exteategy is make the people stand up following me They will do all by themselves. So yeah my position is reach their minds and convinced them that another way is possible etc…
Lol… i think that sound more like Joan of Arc :-)
Buy hey , I need you as a strong ally, not a martyr :-)
Joan doesn’t work as she was all we will burn ingland route.
England should be more compassionate and free her instead of burning her… it will be a great morale victory for England as it shows that they are willing to forgive Joan when the French king chose to forget her
I’m certain there will be. The low anarchy MC’s successful resistance will embolden others to launch their own resistances, adding to the anarchy, and some will be very violent, making the low anarchy MC’s resistance movement look good in comparison.
That’s who I’m trying to make my CHA2 helot MC based on. Except for the getting burned at the stake and becoming a martyr part, rather then that I’d prefer to go for playing as a “Jeanne D’Arc” who manages to free her homeland from the invaders and also survives the whole thing.
So keeping that in mind my MC actually belives that she is the eclect of the angels and doesn’t just think of the title as a tool to manipulate more people. Of course she wants the helots to be free but she would still accept the old Shayardene ruling class as long they treat the helots better not as slaves and they are also ready to fight for their homeland.
Guess this sounds too idealistic…?