I figure to learn healing later on.
Which you can. But Gforce is right – I do intend to have a significant benefit in the X-Lands.
Different leaders different ways. My character follows the only viable option for her. With 40 followers I can’t raid even if I tried. I don’t want defeat the Hegemony by arms, I want convince them to follow me around. Also I don’t need so much mules anyway. I don’t have children amd death weight
Right, Path and Motive will vary for all MCs.
In any sane mind nobody would dare to stop the Harrowing.
But when there is an alternate path, where I can save the lives of my fellow rebel friends, I will save them.
I love the character of Pin Thatcher,
From the very beginning to the end of chapter 4, I have seen her supporting my MC, in every possible manner. She has complete faith upon me.
Whatever may be the key strength of the MC, Pin learns everything in a quick manner. I have seen that whenever due to lack of food grain all my fellow outlaws abandon me, Pin(with Alles Stonehewer) is the only child who defies the will of her parents and always stays with me.
Even when I send her away from me, during the war, she insists on staying and fighting alongside me. I have seen her saying something like,“I will always be your woman” in every hardship.
She is my best loyal supporter, my little sister. My MC can’t live sacrificing his lovely little sister.
Adding to that my MC can’t let Elery, Yebben, Abler, Alles… die in the Harrowing.
Well Mara is a noble she does not know anyone of them. For her are just helots like all those she has seen being slaughter since kid. My character has no reason to stop harrowing . Why this one and not any other? Remember my Character didn’t go with Breden group. So I have no reason or responsibility of save them
I also like to follow the Noble path. But the interest of Nobles and Helots are two far ends of a string.
And my MC, irrespective of his background(Helot/Noble), will fight for the just cause, for the Helots.
I have no intention of restoring the rights of Nobles, it is not my inner calling. Still my MC would give the Nobles something for having their support and restoring order after the rebellion is over.
And it seems your Motivation for the rebellion is restoring the rights of Nobles. So you might not care for the Helots. (So basically you are using them… No offence, Privileged people often do this thing.)
So it all depends upon your Motive.
Exactly, I am using them. But they will become citizens and not being harrowing anymore. And free to marry or not whoever they want and don’t be forced to have babies. So I am not a bad deal for them. And yes all depends entirely on background and motivation
Or never. Dammit! I’m a rebel, not a doctor @Havenstone !
It also seems like any useful healing will require extended studies, that in the case of my mc would be better spent actually leading the rebellion and maybe reverse-engineering air-rifles and finding a way to mass-produce them. Or reverse-engineering or even designing our own printing press so the rebellion can more effectively educate people and spread propaganda.
I imagine a novice theurge, like the INT2 mc who just tries whatever would fall into the last category and only heal the skin while the blood-supply lasts, which is not a good thing.
But at least it can save someone’s life. Never forget that while learning the Secret to Healing, you saved your own life.
If you get someone’s life saved, even if you can’t remove the scars, then also Healing serves its basic purpose. At least a life got saved.
When there is no life, beauty makes no sense.
When you are alive, then only you would get a chance to appreciate Beauty.
It’s more about managing the mc’s valuable and limited time resource as the rebel leader. There’s only a finite amount of things our mc’s, no matter how intelligent, can do in any given amount of time. Time spend learning healing, which may save a couple of lives, could be time not spend towards other goals, which may be of far greater value to the mc’s rebellion.
Yes, the rebellion is going to need medics, including magically trained ones ideally, but I’m not sure moonlighting as one is the best use of theurge mc’s time.
Tell that to Jesus.
A friend had told me that “Death,” will ultimately change the nature of a person, in the face of
Death, calculating the last hours of your life… people will change their perception, whether it be a powerful general or monarch…
In such case, a powerful healer actually hold an important key to his/her goal, imagining saving the life of a powerful enemy or even the monarchs themselves will eventually alter their view about us, and it could be the key of solving any crisis …
Why would my mc want to save his powerful enemies? I mean he’d slightly prefer it if prince nipple-twister, the Thaumatarch and the Laconniers pretenders faced justice, but in the end, they’re too dangerous to leave alive anyway, so it is not a huge problem if they were to die during the revolution.
And go back to being their good little slave, no way! My mc will never tolerate another “noble” overlord above him ever again.
That takes going down a very specific branch in part 1. My mc never goes that route, because attacking Hector where he is strongest is, from the POV of my mc, grossly stupid when we can instead hurt the Keriatou where it really hurts them, in their wealth.
There was an “ideal” who said that we could never really “get rid” of an evil by eliminating it, if we get rid of an evil, it will simply be replaced by another … hence it could be more fruitful if we can “change” the evil , making him/her more sympathetic to our cause …
I had play other game whose theme, was " an Evil General of great power realise that his end will comes soon, and he will be damned to hell for his sins, he was afraid of that happening … and thus seek a way of becoming an Immortal so that he can perform more good deeds to redeem himself "
oh well… if we could save the life of a powerful noble, perhaps he/she could becomes our ally , or the monarch can reform his.her policy …
Just an idealistic theory , not saying that we must do this , but it is a possibility
Indeed it is and I do not believe it will work with the Hegemony they do not have a degree of conscience like the British (or the de-facto pre-Trump American) Empire of our world had.
In-game the problem with that is they tend to view helots as sub-human and therefore my mc has very good reasons not to trust them. More importantly, he already made that mistake once, with Gan, he won’t make that same mistake of idealism again, not when he is now in a truly existential fight for his continued existence.
Or my mc can simply become the new leader and do it himself, or if democracy is more viable then he thought without an extensive period of political tutelage the Grand Appella can just do it. Either way, no monarch and nobility are actually needed to reform.
True, and a real-life argument against the death penalty. That being said sometimes “the devil you know” isn’t actually better or less dangerous then what might take their place. Like I said my mc would like to be able to put the Thaumatarch, his Nine and his heir as well as the Laconnier pretenders before a tribunal, but if that is not possible he’ll take their demise without being able to use them as examples in the new justice system.
Either way it gets rid of existential threats to him.
Ahhh… i forgot that our cousin, what was her name again? will only help us if we are aristocrat ourselves … will she do the same for helots? i thought she like helots…
In this case , i don’t mind saving her life just to gain some Aristocrat support from her faction
Calea and the Keriatou are only related to the aristo mc. At least I hope they are, right @Havenstone ?
In any case Calea likes pretty/handsome helot men to use as disposable sex-toys, not in the genuine sense that we like true friends or lovers, or even a paid sex-worker, as I don’t think Calea is enlightened enough to actually considers helots, no matter how handsome to be fully human, same as her.
Also in-game I don’t think her “faction”, which seems to be the Laconniers as the Keriatou are hinted to have some Shayardene nationalistic nostalgia would ever consider supporting my mc since their goals are pretty much antithetical to one another. Even if they did consider my mc to be human they would not support him as I expect they wouldn’t support the League faction or a cosmopolitan noble either.
If you mean Calea Keriatou, she takes male helots as "lovers" and then has them Harrowed when she gets bored with them. To put it lightly, she is not worth healing.
And I wanted them to remember me, not you. Last thing you need is
*if female
their attention."
*if male
Calea Keriatou's attention, from what I've heard."
*if calea = 1
You tried to push back your fear that you'd attracted it already.
"As if belonging to the de Rose will protect you?
*if calea = 1
You knew the truth of your joke, surely?
The Keriatou treat every helot in the Outer Rim as their birthright." You couldn't help recalling Dann, the first of your young friends to catch Calea's eye after she came of age. The overseers had whipped Dann the first time he vanished for a day—then had begun studiously to ignore his absences, avoiding him with both their eyes and their switches.
*fake_choice
#Despite my father's dire warnings, I hadn't abandoned Dann, even as he lost most of his friends to fear or resentment.
Dann was grateful, vowing to you that he had never tried or wanted to attract the kuria's notice.
#I stayed as far from Dann as I could, not wanting to be caught up in whatever trouble followed.
#I had no desire to stay friends with a noble's plaything.
People muttered that Dann had tried to attract the kuria's notice, seeking the lighter duties and luxuries of a pet.
In the last weeks, you had heard the dread thickening his voice, the certainty that the young noblewoman was tiring of him, that soon one of his disappearances would be permanent. It had ended at a Harrowing where Dann's name was the first called. All you had been able to feel was a terrible gratitude that yours didn't follow. From that point, the pattern had recurred too often to be coincidence—and not just with t'Keriatou helots.
Breden spoke softly but vehemently. "Yes, they're free enough to break Canon when it suits." $!{xhe} looked down the bridge road, where the haze of their passage was clearing. "As if their lives—and the whole damned, bloodthirsty Hegemony—didn't rest on us ignoring their example."
Considering that serious healing would require aetherial blood from murdered innocents, wasting such a costly resource on enemies is not just unwise but an insult to the dead. If anything, those enemies would be at the top of the list to “contribute” aetherial blood for the common good.
I think you misunderstood me.
Who said that the MC would use his/her theurgy to save an enemy?
This skill is vital for saving your own/your followers/leaders life, not necessarily your enemies.
I am also not going to save those Thaumatarch and 9 inner circle Theurges.
But yes, when I am given an opportunity to turn an enemy to my ally, I am not going to miss it.
Remember, how @Havenstone has already confirmed somewhere that those whose lives are saved/spared by the MC, may eventually join the rebellion at a later time.
Just like, when you spare the lives of around 10 number of Alastors during the Architelone raid, tears come into their eyes, and they eagerly join your rebellion.
When my rebellion is just kicking off, I am likely not going to miss any opportunity of making some new allies.
And it doesn’t mean I would spare the lives of my enemies. I would spare the lives of likely allies.
Edit:
Again I would repeat something here.
@Havenstone has already provided a choice of parley with Hector. I don’t think that choice is given just for adding an option. May be he could consider the offer.
Calea has already turned our secret supporter.(for Noble route)
If your MC never takes that root… well that’s good.
But in my case, my MC is not going to spare those Noble hunters. Remember how nasty their mind is…
They nailed one of my followers to a tree and left her for suffering.
They are my followers, I treat them as my own family. We are fighting for our one single cause.
So I thought it a better way to ambush Hector rather than his wealth.
(I was a Theurge and I had already taught some of my followers under Sybla. I can pick some of my best fighters for the ambush. They, the Noble hunting party, are so few in number… I would take the chance.)