Choice of Rebels: Uprising — Lead the revolt against a bloodthirsty empire!

I am not saying it was a bad game in fact it was a great game but i was never able to finish playing it normally i had to mod it to finish it and get the ending i wanted. lol

It is a very easy game if you playing it forgetting the stats and thinking in character. What my character wants? And what are his objectives? If you know that is easy. But I don’t know i will never mod a game of cog with cheats because destroy any role play.

Well, I figured out how to do it, TBH it wasn’t that hard after I got over the mental rut I was stuck in, which was “amass the largest rebellion possible in the Winter, and crush the Archon straight up.”

That is something that a 2CHA build excels at, but 2COM and 2INT…less so. So since I started playing this game, I’ve falsely believed that 2CHA was the categorical best way to go. Don’t get me wrong, 2CHA is still my favorite, but this challenge taught me how to use 2COM.

The build I ran was

2COM / 1CHA Helot
Ruthless / Devout / Homelander
High Anarchy
Inner Voice

The key is that every week in the winter, I sent 50 rebels to set up traps. I kept Breden on a tight leash, and only used her on a few missions. This meant that I could go Inner Voice and score extra rebels without having Breden take over the band. Breden still ended up the most influential person in the Winter, but I had used Radmar so much that in Act 4, you and Radmar / Kalt / Bethune can persuade everyone fairly easily. Anyways, this is the result of your trapping.

Thanks to your skill as a tactician, you make the most of every trap, leaving a trail of bodies around each one. Over the following week, the Archon loses four hundred ninety-two fighters to your snares.

And later, after using traps to take out 2/3 Theurges and then harass them in the forest.

You lose thirty-three outlaws in fierce clashes with the enemy Theurge and troops, but kill enough that by the end of the week, the main force is down to fifty troops.

And finally…

You brace yourselves for the next round of attack…and slowly, incredulously realize that none is coming. All the movement you can see through the trees is withdrawal. Without Theurgic support, the Phalangites aren’t foolish enough to keep assaulting an uphill position against a force well supplied with archers.

You’ve won.

And now you’ve made it to the end of Game 1 without losing anyone (besides Zvad)! When the next few games come out, you’ll have a rebellion full of battle-hardened lieutenants, and you’ll be well-positioned to make Calea your waifu.

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Folks – sorry to interrupt the excellent tactical conversation with a public service announcement, but I wanted to let you all know that we’re trying to raise money for Angi Shearstone, an artist and friend of many CoG authors who is living with the aftermath of a traumatic brain injury.

Some of the profits from XoR have already gone to help Angi, and I’d be grateful to any readers who would consider giving as well. Thanks!

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@Havenstone after 11 replays of the last chapter I could affirm That is IMPOSSIBLE a total pacific run for a 2 ch 1 int. ALL CHOICES ENDED IN DEATH ALL

Plektoi let me hard bounded army come and Harrowing each time Whatever choice I get.
I need the arrows to survive plektoi so achievement is impossible for the current character built that normally wants a pacific route lol. Also I still don’t understand how attack a Mutant beast is not pacific. But hunt for months is super pacific…

Attacking the mutant beast doesn’t lose you the achievement. Attacking the human mage who’s controlling the mutant beast does. (We’ll address the rights of nonhuman animals in future games.)

I’d postponed my EvilGandhi-esque playtest when @Golthar found what seemed to be the issue–but now I’ll get back to it, sorry.

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Not worry, It was just to let you know. Take your time

Speak for yourself, my revolution is secretly purely based on the poor treatment of animals in the Hegemony. The oppressed naked apes would just oppress the oppressing naked apes given the opportunity!

Once I take over, it’ll be business as normal. Only animals will be in a higher station and they’ll be better treated than helots, the yeomanry and minor nobility. (Clergy, bureaucrats, landless gentry etc.)

I’d include major nobility in that but I don’t think I’d get away with it. But I’ll certainly try.

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True true but i ended up dying around 6 times so i gave up playing normally and just modded my stats and resources and ill be honest it felt great doing it finishing the game with maxed out stats and resources. lol

This really shows the barbarity or at least the vulgarity and lack of decency in the US healthcare system and disability/unemployment/pension systems. :unamused:

All hail the hippopotamus, the highest of animals! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: (why doesn’t this forum have a hippo emojii, shameful!)
By the way does the hegemony even have something like the hippo?

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Could you bring Batman not lethal arrows to play for the mage or something because if not you could tell me how survive a full mutant charge without no fighting skills and no help from my 20 men… I should sing the mage a lullaby? :wink: It is a funny situation

Well, let’s just say you don’t win.

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I die and if i die no achievement… I WANT THE ACHIEVEMENT :sob:

So after going through a fresh playthrough of the game I have new conspiracy theory with the whole Breden situation. Don’t know if this has already been said or not.

But I believe Breden is secretly working with the Laconierrs. I believe she was given the assignment to infiltrate the helotry and start spreading sedition amongst them. By creating these hotbeds of sedition Breden is priming 100’s Of Potential recruits for the Laconner Uprising. However, I believe that this was only the initial plan that the Laconniers told Breden.

For some reason the laconniers decided to either turn on Breden or change the mission was given. Instead of her sowing hotbeds of sedition amongst the helotry for the eventual uprisings, I believe the Lavonniers decided to instigate a helot rebellion instead. This could have been done for a number of reasons. To divert the hegemony’s attention from covert Laconnier operations, To test out the strength and fighting potential of the helotry, to gain info on Hegemonic tactics and forces, and strategy.

More likely than not since the Laconnier Rebellion is primarily composed of Nobles they see the helots as expendable. Essentially this is another trial rebellion, that poses less risk to the nobility of Shayard this time around. For now the Laconnier are more interested in seeing the MC’s rebellion succeed rather than fail at the moment, but they don’t expect it to last for long, and they definitely don’t want the rebellion to become large enough to threaten the Laconniers claim to Shayard as well

If I’m right I’m not sure if breden would still be working with them at this point or not. If she is it would explain some things. Like how some of the alastors were more prepared for the raids than they should’ve been. If Breden wants to keep the attention of the Hegemony on the MC’s rebellion, while at the same time making sure that the rebellion doesn’t grow too large.

However this theory does have some holes in it. Like why Breden would want to kill Linos/Horion. Or why she would want to poison the band. Or several other things. I’m guessing that probably has something to do with Radmar possibly trying to frame Breden or some other reason.

@Havenstone If In right about this please give me a shoutout after Book 2 releases😌

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This theory would also be great to set up a potential three way power struggle in later games like a MC Rebellion vs Laconniers vs Hegemony fight or something. Assuming the MC decided not to join the Laconniers which aim sure he will get the option too.

Even if this isn’t the exact situation with Breden, the Laconniers are definitely still involved somehow with what went down st the Fourth Harrowing. A Laconnier soy just so happens to be in town on the Fourth Harrowing where a gang of rebels/children are being harrowed? Seems a little too convenient for me

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I think that will happen with or without Breden it might even be a four way rumble as there’s Jac Cabel too.
Now I don’t think Breden is a Laconnier plant as they have far too many ties to the Kryptasts and by extension the Hegemony for that. Unless some of the Kryptasts have secretly switched sides too or have been significantly infiltrated by the Laconniers. If it is the latter the Laconniers would be a more serious threat then I imagined them to be.

I doubt it though if you get thrown into the dungeons like Mara they will certainly seize upon a target of opportunity. I think that would just be a lucky coincidence for the Laconniers and that noble was probably visiting on unrelated business. Like maybe meeting with a Hallasurq spy like Carles in an out of the way town.

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I don’t think Laconniers are a threat , i don’t mind working with them …forming an alliance where we split the kingdoms equally :slight_smile:

@idonotlikeusernames I imagine that the Laconniers would be pretty powerful just by comparing them to the MC’s Rebeliion.
By that I mean if a ill organized somewhat spontaneous helot rebellion can put together an force capable of beating an army of Phalangites, plus Thergues and Plektoi, then there’s no telling what the Laconniers ( a group of rich powerful, formerly royal, nobles that can secure theurge forged arms and armor) can do. In willing to bet they’re a bigger threat than even the Thaumatarch is willing admit, and I wouldn’t put it past any powerful group of nobles to exploit the helotry for they’re own personal gain.

I am the living proof of the theory is false. I am a noble who in any way joint Breden I hit her wjth a cane and never went to a conspiracy reunion. I didn’t stop Harrowing, Then Laconniers save me. And he directly insult Breden . Then i called Breden Traitor and send Breden to exile. Laconniers came back later and give me A enchated spears also several veterans of Shayardene nationalist previous rebellions joiing me. Breden is no way a laconnier They are known to be elite group NOBLE group. Breden is a helot a known helot, that gives you sarcastic answer if you say your main reasons to rebel are Shayard amd the old nobility and monarchy.

If there is a laconnier is Simon.His sister was middle of sort a old pro shayard business. Remember Laconniers are for bring Monarchy back but maintain the status of nobility… Breden is a helot

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@poison_mara That’s what Breden wants you to think :wink:

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