Choice of Rebels: Uprising — Lead the revolt against a bloodthirsty empire!

[Norilinde]

@Havenstone

In general, I’d be careful about slipping into any history of ideas that implies pre-scientific thinkers were idiots.

Duly noted . I had been willing to partially attribute the continuation of certain notions to those thinkers possibly being slightly less than open-minded to counter-examples.

@Havenstone

To return to the gameworld, a Theurge in trance in a completely dark room would “see” light emerging from other people’s eyes. Perhaps that means that physics in the gameworld really is Aristotelian, or perhaps Telos-vision is interpretation as much as perception, strongly influenced by what you believe/expect to see.

Yay! I got my experimental result (or as some would say a divine response from THE Oracle)! So now I amend my hypothesis accordingly… and note that the result blew my hypothesis out of the water …

So Telos-vision may be influenced by what its users expect, but if that is the case then it would be much harder to test. If even experienced Telos-vision users only understand a small fraction of what is shown by Telos-vision, then the following issues come to mind. As @cascat07 mentioned:

@cascat07

Or telos vision itself is an illusory interpretation of what is happening generated by your monkey brain when it’s aether is being consumed. I doubt we would attribute much empirical strength to the insights gleaned while under the influence of LSD. We know for certain that Yebbin’s telos vison is significantly different than the MC’s for example.

If different Telos-vision users perceive Telos-vision differently, is this because what is shown actually is different for different people, or is it because different people understand different fractions of what is shown? And how would you even determine which is the case?

@Havenstone

At 6 INT, you’d have a decent chance in a toe-to-toe Theurgic duel against 3 out of 4 of the ones I have in mind. (The last one would require, let’s say, a 9 INT or special circumstances.)

I would bet on someone or something VERY old for the last one. Or perhaps old is the wrong adjective for something if it does not age at all or exists outside of time. It seems like the original Stormwright could only be a few hundred years old if that person is still alive. How old (if this term is even applicable) is Archlich Ghaesh?

@Havenstone Are there any creatures whose main sense is Telos-vision? Sort of like vornskrs in Star Wars? I imagine such creatures would be useful “guard-dogs/guard-creatures” for giving warning of hostile Theurges.

@idonotlikeusernames

Well, you see while my mc is hardly as enthusiastic about it as @Norilinde 's mc he did promise the kid to teach him once he gets back from the Xaos lands, assuming they both survive, and apart from it looking really bad my mc wouldn’t renege on that promise as he does recognize the need for more mages once the rebellion spreads.

One of my MC’s goals is “letting the genie out of the bottle” then breaking the bottle into so many pieces that “all the king’s horses and all the king’s men” can never put it back together again. Partially, this is to reduce the incentive the Hegemony would have to simply assassinate my MC. While this may make the Hegemony desire vengeance more, there would also be less potential benefit for the Hegemony if it is obvious that assassinating my MC will only result in another wisard taking my MC’s place.