Choice of Rebels Guides (SPOILERS)

It may not be possible to have the perfect rebellion that an ideals-driven rebel would like to see.

This may be a theme.

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I’ve been playing Suzerain lately, so I do understand comradelenin’s frustration. :slight_smile:

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The most frustrating bit is that I’m perfectly fine with high anarchy, in fact, I want it, but Kala/Kalt simply isn’t all that useful. The only way I know of to successfuly flee the woods without tremendous casualties (especially if I want the sword) is if Simon helps me free the prisoners. Kalt can’t do that.

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Does anyone have any tips for improving your reputation with the nobility? I know it’s possible, but I’ve been having trouble figuring out which choices specifically improve this relationship.

It’s not easy. In general, you can’t do much to actually improve your relationship in this book, so much as not sabotage it.

The best option is, of course, to be an aristocrat. Other than that, staying your hand from attacking the aristocracy, being merciful if you’re a helot, and support aristocratic privilege wherever you can. (Do note that the latter will piss off the helots and yeomen, but those can be bought easily.)

The nobles are the primary benefactors of the current regime. Rebellion is a hard sell.

Currently stuck at getting the “Shame if anything happened” achievement. Was wondering how to get it since every time i reached the point where alaine called, the option to demand protection racket is always greyed out despite me already having a high combat and intelligent not being the dump stat. I seek help

The option for the protection racket only unlocks if your combined combat and intellect equals three. Your stats can be either 2 Combat and 1 Intellect or 2 Intellect and 1 Combat.

Thanks for the answer. I’d thought as much and find them be the most challenging group to please. The aftermath of the Horion interaction is a particular annoyance. Even if I seem to have done everything right by them and refute my involvement in that particular matter, my rep with them tanks to passive/negative attitudes.

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Take heart. In the next book, you’ll be able to infiltrate noble society, dance at a ball and possibly prop up your relationship with the nobility.

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I’ve been enjoying the experience so far. I love how the story supports a variety of approaches to creating an insurgency. I’m really excited see how the sequels account for different styles and how everything ultimately plays out.

This was really helpful, thanks

The best solution for the Horion interaction is to take Horion hostage in chapter 3, then release him before the battle in chapter 4. That way, he at least survives. Taking him hostage will hurt your noble reputation, but if he dies it’s much worse. If your noble reputation is at the highest it can be by chapter 4, there will be extra dialogue about Mikal de Rose. You’ll hear that he led a theurge on a wild goose chase in the Brecks, so you have to deal with one less theurge in the battle. It’s pretty difficult to get that to happen. Off the top of my head, playing as a noble, picking arrogant noble dialogue options, having Zvad as your deputy, not raiding nobles in winter, negotiating with Ismene de Galis about the architelone raid, kidnapping Horion so he doesn’t die, negotiating with Calea, and not fighting Hector are all ways to help your noble reputation. It also helps if you have low-anarchy because you get Simon/Suzane and there are a couple of interactions with them that can boost noble cred.

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I can’t get “Morale generally positive” at week 6, how??

So I’ve been following this guide to the letter but can’t seem to recruit the noble in chapter 3, just Kalt. Even raiding the yeoman only once more between weeks 5-10 and stealing from 2 tithe barns doesn’t keep my anarchy low. I do the one necessary attack on a garrison and then once more later on. Anyone have any tips?

Edit: Sorry to comment on an old post, I just figured this would be the best place to get an answer since i’m following the guide.

Edit 2: For clarity, I raid the yeoman 2-3 times total, tithe barns 2 times total, and garrisons 2 times total.

So the actual check to determine if you get Kalt/Simon is having anarchy over/under 20 by the end of the winter. It’s been awhile since I’ve tried, but if I remember right, raiding the garrison leads to a fairly big anarchy jump, and another one for the 2nd raid.

For my low anarchy runs, I generally try to avoid it altogether, and stick to the occasional church raid (and the tax collector, though that part can be a lot harder to get right).

I actually managed to keep my anarchy at 20 to get Simon, but thank you for confirming what I was suspecting.

I have just reached the point where I must fight the hegemony, but i cannot choose to fight despite only allowing korszata and radmar to speak. I’ve followed the guide for chapter 3, so I’m not sure what’s wrong.

Edit: Nevermind, I misinterpreted the guide. I’m actually supposed to flee for my route.

Are there any suggestion on how to lessen your casualty of your large Rebel forces if you decided you want to scatter them?

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This was written some time ago so may be a little out of date due to patches. Hope this helps.

Choose the Split Up option at the Moot in Chapter Four.

At the Moot let these people speak to get the most support for your choice:

  • Breden

  • Simon / Suzane de Firiac

  • Helot Elder Joana Orchard

High morale and being Eclect will help, too. Then choose these options:

“Split up, melt away—and take our message back to helot camps all across Shayard.”
I’m not changing my mind. We’ll not win the rebellion in these woods.

Furthertips to maximise your chances of success:

Reputation: Having great reputation with Helots or Yeomen - ideally both - will help.

Charisma: Having Charisma 2, or Breden, or both, will make it easier to succeed.

Children: Having children still accompanying your band will also make it easier to succeed. The more children with you, the higher the bonus.

High Literacy: The more literate followers you have, the easier it will be to succeed. If you’re planning this ending from the start, then try to train Literacy as much as possible during Winter Week Two. Some of the groups received from having 75%+ in your various personality stats at the end of Chapter Three will add more literate followers to your band, too.

Religion: Being Eclect or having Inner Voices will make it easier, but being Kenon will make it harder.

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