BREACH: Chicago War Zone (WIP) (1 Million Words UPDATE! 23-April-2024)

National Guard & the Feds

It’s a possibility that Gabriel’s understanding with the Corigan is preventing the Governor from sending the National Guard in. Given VAMCorp’s megacorp status, I don’t think that’s entirely out of left field. They’re rich, they’re influential, and they have a significant presence in Chicago, regardless of whether they have actual dirt on the Governor.

There’s also a possibility that the FBI are trying to deal with it themselves in an attempt to prevent themselves from looking too stupid, but I imagine they’d (especially the leadership, not so sure about Reville) be in favour of bringing in the National Guard. But I would find it odd if the National Guard didn’t make an appearance in one form or another. I also don’t know much about Illinois Law Enforcement, but would the State Police also get involved too? I guess if they would have, the Governor could also be stalling their intervention as well.

The other option is that the Outfit/Cartels have endemically infiltrated the Illinois State Police, National Guard and State Government and that’s causing the lack of intervention. Which isn’t impossible either, given prior statements that the Cartel has moles in the FBI, but moles are different from agents who are willing to cause massive disruption.

Either way, even if the National Guard isn’t coming in, private companies in the city are going to bring in security companies to try and protect their stuff. The FBI route so far seems to show the Federals reinforcing their ranks with ATF and DEA, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they called in more FBI assets from afar. There’ll probably be more US Marshals around too, not least because the Federal courthouses are probably going to get hit.


Gabriel and Collateral Damage

I think Gabriel had to know that the plan would result in a pile of civilian bodies. How could it not? Even if there were zero direct collateral casualties, there were bound to be indirect casualties. And how could he not know, given his position and attributes? He possesses a great deal of culpability in bringing all the Archangels together in Chicago. While it was the Cartel which fired off the first shot of this current business (and are far more blasé about collateral than the Archangels were), it was also escalation. An escalation which may have been necessary for the Archangels to maintain their presence in Chicago, but an escalation nonetheless.

Disruptions to water, electrical, medical & rescue services, which will result in deaths. That stunt the Archangels did in the hospital has probably resulted in a mountain of law enforcement outside every medical facility in the area, which is going to cause delays, and thus deaths, not to mention the capacity taken up by law enforcement casualties. Even in the last game, the FBI PC sees the piles of wounded in the hospital. In addition, every law enforcement officer and security guard is going to be twitchy as hell.

On a similar note, I liked the short snippet in the FBI route of the demo, where the Cartel tries a hit on you. The mother with her child being caught in the crossfire. I think that, seeing the direct consequences of the fighting, was far more impactful than any amount of prose.

And that’s going on across the city. And while the Outfit and Cartel’s trying hits on Archangels, the FBI, the CPD and everyone they have beef with, they’ll also be shooting up innocents who have “wronged” them somehow or who have unfortunately drawn suspicion to themselves. The Archangels’ ability to hit them where it hurts again and again will mean rampant paranoia in their leadership, not only in their upper ranks but the lower ranks too.

I think it makes sense, though, Gabriel’s prior stance on civilian casualties and the inevitable fallout of the war with the Outfit/Cartel. Given the angel stuff, I’ve seen him as trying to play up this “angel of retribution” ideal. A zealotry that will not tolerate that which is anathema to him, and will show no mercy to them. But it’s a zealotry that allows no room for equivocation, and in his crusade, will willingly turn a blind eye to the suffering of innocents at one moment while accusing those who casually perpetrate it at another. And there’s little which can dissuade him, given his martyrdom complex.

Granted, all of that is speculation and I’m a strident anti-trioist.

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I can see your point on that and I do hope the National Guard does not appear as I do not want to shoot at our troops. The Cartels and private security may come up more often as we dispatch the outfit and considering the damage done by the Archangels a reinforcement of Illinois State Police, FBI, ATF, US Marshals, and possibly DHS is likely on the horizon.

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I envisage that even in the event of a National Guard callout, they’d mainly be “in the background”, as it were. Establishing blockades and enforcing curfews, primarily being boots on the ground to try and dissuade activity rather than actually going in and dealing with the Archangels directly. I think the FBI-led task force will still be the main actor in that regard.

I think the main thing would be law enforcement getting access to the National Guard armories. More body armour, more equipment, more rifles, more riot gear, more ammunition. For the FBI task force that’s probably not a major boost, but beat cops might get tougher. It is the second game in the series, after all, and if cop encounters will scale upwards in difficulty that there’s a justification for it.

That said, if the FBI manage to somehow corner the Archangels, there is precedent for the FBI asking the National Guard for heavier equipment beyond access to what they have access to, namely APCs or CEVs. Perhaps helicopters for recon. The upcoming siege of Greg’s new church in the FBI route would be a useful instance for the National Guard’s hardware, even if they just bring along a lot of smoke grenade launchers, but they haven’t been deployed yet.

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Yeah I’d prefer the FBI just get heavier equipment than any National Guard presence or involvement

I’m so frickin excited for this you have no idea. I embarrassingly squeal snorted near my crush when i saw this in the forum AND LET ME TELL YOU THE EMBARRASSMENT

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Thank you for your hard work Michael! Breach really made my year(I’m not kidding😭)! Please don’t stress out too much and take care of yourself! You’re well being comes first!

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Well, that cements my commitment with the FBI route. With Gabriel acting all high and mighty, I dont consider him a criminal nor a vigilante but a terrorist. Even Batman wont pull off the stunt the Archangels did (right? Correct me if I’m wrong I havent read Batman comics)

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Nah Batman has done similar, can’t remember which issue though???

You mean cause the deaths of countless of civilian lives due to his actions?

I don’t want to derail the thread! But this was what the injustice comics were all about. Multiple characters including Damien have called out Batman for allowing joker and other Gotham villains to live as a good chunk of them were mass murderers.

Well it’s the Injustice universe you’re referring to, not the original Batman.

I play as FBI agent last time, i remember i was still fighting the FBI and outfits even after my identidy was exposed , and my LI still love me…

So, there was another ending where i am going to fight the Archangel too? What happen to my Love interest in Archangel then? I vaguely remember i promise to follow her back to Belgium to aid her in her vengence😅

Edit : I test play it as FBI agent, and i must say i love it to be able to become an Agent to hunt down fugitives, the various scenes on working with other FBI agents and police is a refreshing experience… although something bothering me, so i chose Carline to be my love interest, and she is out there now, will i ever see her again ? And will i able to enlist her aid and continue the romance?
I remember i was in good relationship with Haynes before, what will happen when i meet her again, i remember Haynes is a fiery one

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Well I mean Joker still Joker? Jason Todd also called him out but this wasn’t in the Injustice universe.

@MichaelMaxwell I’m in love with your first game. I’m still going though it today just to see if there is anything hidden lol. Anywho I wanted to know if you are willing to add some slightly more destructive weapons like the 50 cal. (Bolt or Semi Auto) or desert Eagle, maybe (one of my favorite revolvers) the raging bull?

Oh and one more thing! Is it possible to add different ammunition? I know it may add a bit of complexity to the overall coding, but I find it fun shooting people with HE rounds in my magazine :smiling_imp:.

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I hope that the next games would enable us to convince our ROs to work with you and betray the Archangels. Especially right now with what is going on. Most Angels like Charlie, Anna or Kaz wouldn’t like what the Archangels are doing I think, especially since they turned Chicago into this hell hole. I would love to see the differing opinions of each character so that they feel more human and not just some mindless character who follows The Three all the time.

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Ouch ! You hurt me ! I love Rook but damn they had a cuddle scene with him ! What did poor Gablovers had ? Nothing ! Ah such cruelty ! I’m dying ! :sob:

More seriously. ~

This time I played the FBI path : well… I didn’t buy it. Let me explain people ! I love the parallelism between the two paths. I really think if someone wants to appreciate and understand the game he’ll have to play the two paths. The focus on Greg is great ! I like the character and there is definitely so much possibilities. But… I didn’t feel any connections with the partners. At least Anthony was a nice play in the FBI path but the others, I don’t know why, it feels like if they disapeared next chapter I’ll be like “glad, what’s next ?”. Maybe more interactions could change that ? I’m not sure. And I’m the only one to raise that problem so maybe I’m just imagining things. Don’t know.

Anyway I loved the 2 paths and I’ll gladly read the next update !

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I’ve never played the FBI path 'cause I can’t imagine myself/my MC being a fed, lol, but now I’m curious!

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Usually we say come to the dark side we have cookies but I’m tempting people to the bright side :laughing:

Test, test and tell me what you think ~

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Welcome to the Bright Side, we have rainbow sprinkle cookies.

:cookie:

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One, I’m a little bit confused, some of the events that you were talking about as far as I know I had not happened yet? Or is that just reading between the lines? Two, I haven’t play the FBI path, but may? One, I like the arc angel path little bit better, and you play most of the book is an ark Angel, and two I don’t think me, as me, I have the temperament to be a police officer/federal agent anyway. Three, cookies? Also, do they have chloroform? Like Gabriel’s cookies? I want cookies :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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