A Tale of Heroes (WIP) - 224k words. Updated 29/01/2025!

It’s not the same one that Seeker has, no.

But it’s rather similar, innit? And so is the necklace, and the sword… Plenty of similarities there, and all of them intended. One must wonder what it all means…

Also, neat tidbit, remember those huge scars you see Seeker has in Chapter 3? Well, he does say a girl gave them to him, so… :stuck_out_tongue:

It may seem like that for a bit, but do not fret. When the true endgame is revealed, you’ll see you’re as relevant to the plot, if not more so, than our lonely swordsman.

Honestly, if I were you, I’d worry a tad less about Seeker, and more about Forlorn and Aki…

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I DO spend most of the “true” playthrough worrying about Aki (“when do I get to smooch her?”) and Forlorn (“when am I going to have to fight for life and limb for wanting to smooch Aki?”), so I’m way ahead of you.

Eventually, at least one of us will be dead, so I guess it becomes a moot point then.

It’s true, nothing will make Forlorn not want to rip my limbs out as me supporting Aki in not requesting his permission for everything. I see no way in which this can go painful for me.

You pervert!

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But hey, to be fair, Forlorn will have to approve eventually, right?

… Right? He couldn’t possibly hold a grudge over it forever.

But don’t worry, Aki’ll have to do some serious growing up soon, so Forlorn’s approval probably won’t matter as much then. And that’ll be a good thing!

… I hope!

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Wil Forlorn implode upon seeing premarital handholding

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Haha, yeah, that’s… totally part of the plan, true…

Ironically, something like this is one of the options the player will have when Forlorn talks to them about their relationship with Aki.

It’ll be the one he acts most annoyed about.

It’ll also be the one he approves of the most.

Not quite, but I do have a plan for another premarital act that he’ll flip his lid on.

Although, yes, PDAs are kind of not something Forlorn is very comfortable in general. He’s the most inexperienced member of the team in terms of romance (except for non-romanced Aki, at least), so it’s not something he truly gets.

Of course, he then proceeds to hang with Seeker and Ignis near-religiously, so one must wonder how he justifies that to himself…

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Hey there Juan, I have some concerns and inquiries about the series as a whole if you don’t mind me asking about it. So first things first, What are your plans going forward? Will you tone down on the focus on RO’s moving on from Chapter 4 or will you continue to give them more limelight?

I’m asking this because I’m unsure as to the focus of the series with all the talks being mostly about the RO’s. I understand that the majority of the reason of the community’s focus on them is because of the recent chapters and the series being still in its introductory phase but I am just curious about your answer.

Secondly, if you are moving forward or still putting the focus on the ros, I am assuming that the main plot would still be advancing and here’s my question. Are the plots you have set up contained per book or do you plan to make them advance with the series as a whole?

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That’s a bit of a complicated question, but… yeah, the focus won’t stay on the romantic aspects of the characters, at least not from now on. The cast will still maintain relevancy, of course, but things will be more about dealing with their situations (Seeker’s self-sacrificial nature, Mars’ lack of belief in his ability to be a hero, Aki’s… well, spoilers there, but you get what I mean), and the overall mysteries of the world.

I’ll admit writing the romantic aspects has been rather fun, even if exhausting at times, and it has helped me get a much clearer picture of where I want the characters to be at as the story further advances, but I can confirm the main focus of the story will not be the romance. If you want… a bit of a breakdown, so to say, of what the next few chapters will consist of, this is more or less it:

5- The big battle in Naha, as well as certain plans moving forward.

6- Dealing with the fallouts of Chapter 5, as well as learning more about Nova, introduction of… a certain someone, and seeing things regarding Aki and Forlorn.

7- The final tie in to a certain point in Chapter 5, as well as an honest and very deep look into Seeker and Ignis.

8- This is where things get a bit unclear, but it’s when stuff starts to seriously break down in certain aspects.

9- Meeting someone, and having that someone throw stuff at everyone’s faces, as well as the beginning of the planet-shaking revelations that make up the climax of the story.

10- This is where the endgame hits its mid-point. This is where many, many, many events in the earlier part of the story culminate, and where a particularly attentive reader might go “Oh, fucking hell!”.

11 and 12 are the end of things, at least for now. Final preparations are made, certain arrangements are cleared up, and the fighting takes over and over and over.

So, yeah. Some of that is still up for rearrangement (it may end up one or two chapters shorter), but there’s still much to go, and ROs aren’t the main facet of most of it. From now on, besides certain scenes at times (Ignis and Aki are definitely getting special ones, at least), the largest changes you’ll see are going to be lines being different depending on who you have chosen to romance.

You’ll get to meet the cast even more, but not as romance options. You’ll meet them as people, and your relationships with them can be just as deep and as strong as those you may have with whoever your girlfriend or boyfriend may be. I’m not a fan of the idea that you need to romance a character to truly get to know them, so it’s not something you’re gonna see much of here.

If you’d like to use an example for this series, I’d recommend looking at the early Fire Emblems. You have an ensemble of characters, all with their baggage and desires, and while the events of the story aren’t about them, these events will still affect and bring to the front these baggages and desires.

In a lot of ways, this book is very much an introductory piece. It’s meant a lot more as a prologue than a part one, at least from my point of view. Its job is to make you connect or begin to care about the characters, so that the events in the following books are things you actually give thought to, or at least stick with you. Even the finale is meant more as something to whet your appetite and get you wondering about what comes next, when is it coming, and most importantly, how can you survive it.


No, the plot of the book is not self contained. It’s all meant as one big narrative that continues to build upon itself, instead of several different events that end up coalescing in the future. The events of Book 1 directly build up the events of Book 2, and same with Book 3.

Sorry if I rambled a bit here. Let me know if anything I said was a bit unclear, and I’ll try to tackle it in a different way. Likewise, if you have any more questions, feel free to bring them up.

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Yo! Quickly stopped by to ask if Ignis would be listed as an RO going forward. If not, GREAT! If so, I’d like to disagree. I personally don’t think she counts as a Romancable character and is hardly a fling. The most we get to do with her is dance and make out before she attempts to convince the MC and seemingly herself that she doesn’t love Seeker.

I know doomed ROs are a thing on CoG (I myself have never played a WIP or CoG that has one tbh) but I feel like anyone who hasn’t checked the thread here or is SUUUUPER Idealistic to the point of a ‘hopium addiction’ I feel like the experience will be… brutal. Especially with what you’ve relayed to me on discord.

I’d also hesitate at calling this relationship anything more than that too tbh. The attraction seems one-sided or at the very least “fabricated” in the sense that off the bat, you’re already competing with a dude who shows no immediate interest in her. Then there’s the fact that she never actually admits to liking the MC. I wouldn’t mind a relationship built on an RO trying to forget about an ex or former crush then starting off from there but as you’ve said this isn’t one of those relationships. Ignis will get off the copium and come to terms with her feelings, Seeker will get his waifu and the MC takes a long hike ig.

And before you say it… I’m not salty just totally warning the next individual who might walk into the Ignis “RO” thinking it will be a blast only to walk out bitter. Thanks for taking the time to read this!

Edit 1: I think a fair solution would be to list them as a doomed RO right from the jump so there are no surprises but I feel like a good portion of readers would disagree since it’s a pretty decent ‘surprise’ even if it’s greatly unwelcomed <3. or you can totally make her viable again :stuck_out_tongue:

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What if we’re just a squirrel looking for a nut?

:blush:

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Indeed, especially if the said reader were too invested in her “Romance”.

I was expecting her romance will be like Sally’s from Mind blind–MC can either be a matchmaker or pursue a relationship with her, but alas. Lmao.

Also, Playstore reviewers can be a bit… Harsh. Most of 'em expect a good ending when doing a romance, after all.

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I disagree with the notion that Ignis isn’t a RO. I understand there’s an argument to make there, I just don’t agree with it.

Perhaps it’s because I’m seeing it from a more ‘game’ perspective than a literary one, or maybe I have a less-evolved definition, but the player can enter a relationship with Ignis, can and will get one-on-one romantic events with her, and will have chances to demonstrate (and be demonstrated) acts of affection.

Those are, from my point of view at least, enough fulfilled requisites for Ignis to be considered a SO to the MC.

While it’s true that there will not be a happy ending to your connection, I’d argue that an unhappy ending is still a viable path, or at the very least a reasonable way for the story to go. Plenty of relationships blow up in our faces, but that doesn’t discount them from being relationships. You’re still going to be together with Ignis for a good few months before everything falls apart. She’ll be the MC’s girlfriend, and the MC will be Ignis’… well, whatever label the player wants to give themselves.

That said, I have given some thought to marking it up front that the Ignis route will not be exactly happy. It’d make an appearance when the MC asks her to dance in Chapter 2, though I’d endeavor to make it less immersion breaking than it would seem at first glance. That’s definitely in the cards.

I’d recommend a playthrough of A Study in Steampunk if that’s the case. There’s no other romantic partner getting involved, but one of the early routes doesn’t have any good outs, and I consider it to be superbly written.

I’m afraid to say, but if a good lay is the interest, you’re better off barking up Latooni’s or Mars’ tree. Both Aki and Ignis will take quite a bit to even begin exploring the possibility of sex, each for different reasons.

And no, before anyone asks, Seeker isn’t the reason for why Ignis isn’t looking for sex. It’s an event from her past. If you want a hint…

“Huh, so you were home-schooled?”

“Well, for a while,” she says. “I eventually begged hard enough that my parents let me enroll into an actual school. That was… a trying experience, really.”

“Anything you wanna share?”

“Not right now, not really,” Ignis responds, staring up at the ceiling. “Today’s to relax, not bring up old annoyances,” she adds. “But thank you for offering.”

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Can mc break it off with ignis when it becomes clear her heart isn’t in the relationship?

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Yes, that’ll be a possibility. In my current outline, you’ll get a chance to do so slightly after learning of what exactly happened between her and Seeker when her identity leaked, which will be explored in… Chapter 7.

I’m also adding an option for the player to refuse to enter a relationship in Chapter 4.

And, finally, you’ll also get an option to be a bastard at the endgame and ‘cheat’ (though how much of a relationship there still is at that point is debatable), something Ignis does not do, but still does not bear any ill will over, as she’ll be the first to admit she’s just been wasting your time for a while.

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Interesting, so is Mars the type to take the mc on a ride and show them the backseat (I recall he does seem to have a nice car for a political worker). Or is he more the type to prefer a fancy dinner and dancing in a five star hotel/resort first (in which case my poor mc has some saving up to do, since we don’t exactly seem to get paid).
Ironically I think my mc may be a semi-virgin here, having never quite had a relationship that has gone beyond kissing and some mild fumbling in his highschool days. :sweat_smile:

And I guess that under ordinary circumstances somebody like Mars would have been out of my mc’s league as a geeky college kid, but I do suppose he’s a league trained super “hero” now with the body to match. :thinking:

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The latter is more Mars’ style, yes. I think he can mention this to the MC if you hang out in Chapter 4, but it may be locked behind a specific option.

Mars has a bit of a traditional view in the steps of a relationship, or what constitutes the events in one. He’ll be infinitely more interested in a good dinner date than he’d be on some fast and loose action like going to a bar and doing half a dozen shots.

It comes from his parents, I think. They’re middle-aged by now, but they’re very much still in love and have no qualms in showing it or regaling in tales of how their escapades went when they met in the late 80s-early 90s, so Mars has always taken them to be something of an inspiration for him and whatever partner he might end up with.

Well, weirder things have happened, but you’d definitely be in very different circles at the time, so I don’t think there’d be much of a chance. Then again, you’d likely have a better shot with him than any other League member (Latooki excluded for obvious reasons, of course), so maybe if you started working as an aide for some politician or another there’d be a small shot… :thinking:

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Welp, guess my mc has to find a way to get some money then…:sweat_smile:

Well…nothing wrong with traditional…except when “traditional” means anti-gay in practice.

Ooh, so will we get to meet the parents in a future Mars scene?

Plus super powers, versus very much not super-powered.

Hmm…I guess it depends on how political Giga university was and how demanding mc’s study subject was plus their talent, connections and financial situation as to whether he could have afforded to be a non-paid volunteer/intern, or really would have needed a paid staffer position from the start.

In that alternate universe I think that given how much my mc already disliked Stratton, even before being singled out for his Twitter as a new favourite target…his leanings would definitely have been for the other party. But, depending on their programmes and without the superhero stuff being the dominant issue for him then either campaign might have snatched him up, where as a powered “hero” it seems he only really has one choice, since he doesn’t want to be forced into joining the military or worse some shadowy government intelligence outfit.

Still without superhero training my mc would have been on the skinny side for a pretty boy with a workout routine that looks more like mine does when I’m very busy than a supermodel’s or I guess that’s superhero now. Plus in his college days if he was really focused on something he’s the type who might forget to eat in spite of being a good cook, though that is something Lat bothering him may already have helped with a bit.

Well…Lat has always been just a friend for my mc and I am looking forward to the option where the mc can gently tell her he’s gay.

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Mars is the bodyguard and aide to the president of the United States. HE can treat YOU to an outing, the boy has money.

I think in this case it means he does the entire courtship thing, like Wayhaven’s N, if you’re familiar with that.

Though I DO see your point, I feel the need to point out that this is a reflection of the fact that, traditionally, relationships were between people of the same social class and who were therefore expected to have similar financial means. And since we live in deeply capitalist society where “possessions” is often equated with “worth”, not having the means of your social class was “failing”.

The private sector definitely pays better, unless the politician you work for is, like, a Saudi prince or something. But Mars isn’t just a bodyguard, he’s also a direct consultant, and both of those to the president of the United States - it doesn’t bring in private sector bucks, no doubt, and he’s not sitting on Ignis’s pile of cash (at least until her parents disown her, I guess?), but boy’s not hurting. Let yourself be pampered.

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It’s kinda embarrassing to have your boyfriend pay for everything all the time. imho, of course, but I guess my mc is a bit “traditional” that way too.

I think the mc is also on a full-ride scholarship, or at least they and Lat were before the mess in the prologue happened, so we can’t even ask for a partial refund of tuition money.

I guess my mc could ask Forlorn, Aki and Seeker what they do for money sometime. As they are the other ones who are neither gadgeteer geniuses or billionaires.

That may very well be, if he does it is more likely to come from the same kinda source as Ignis’, as in him being either born into it or his parents having become the nouveau-riche.
Like I said before, he does seem to have a suspiciously nice personal car for a political worker.

It wouldn’t come from bodyguarding for the government, or at least political work is not a particularly well-paying sector on its own. Even its top wages pale compared to both some other government agencies and certainly the private sector.

Yes, bodyguards would earn more from hazard pay (everybody in political work already has irregular hours), but it would still pale compared to doing the same for some billionaire in the private sector.

In my opinion, as a former political worker who still sometimes misses it, even if I do not miss the relatively low pay, most people come into it out of genuine passion or idealism.

Those are however a lot less like the traditional politicians we have, or at least used to have in the “free” West. Working for them also probably requires a much higher tolerance for cruelty and looser moral and ethical standards and is probably nothing like political work as I used to know it.

More to the point, so do our mc’s in this game.

And in the US you have the situation where “consultants” can be paid by outside super PAC’s and dodgy foundations, which is effectively the private sector. :unamused:
Still we don’t know if Mars uses such an ethically dodgy loophole to get paid way more than the standard expectations for his role.

Believe me, I get this critique and I guess this is indeed something deeply inculcated in me that is also often reflected in my mc’s that is contrary to my political and ideological leanings.

Even taking that in account though, having way less means than your partner does mean you get to take the initiative less often, since in our capitalist society most things cost money upfront that limits the mc’s options to take the initiative in planning a date.

More specifically the fact that my mc lives with some housemates in this game means that he can’t really use things like his personal cooking skills for dating purposes all that easily either. Since he definitely does not want Ignis, Forlorn and especially Lat looking literally over his shoulders on a self-prepared dinner date with Mars. :worried:

This is essentially what has happened to mc. Going from a poor-ish full-ride scholarship to superhero overnight. But the fact that, for now at least, the mc has to wear the face altering collar and uses a pseudonym means their personal wealth is definitely lagging far behind.
Although some other fictional superhero’s do have that problem too, most noticeably at the top of my head Spidey.

Like D&D my superhero stuff knowledge is decades out of date by now and in Europe we were always less obsessed with it than the US to boot.

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I’d argue that this is one of the reasons why Spidey is one of the most popular super-heroes. Besides super-heroing, his problems are fundamentally RELATABLE.

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Another reason, of course, is stuff like this:

(this is after it took the entirety of the Avengers to bring down one-fifth of the Phoenix Force, and here’s the webhead taking out HALF of it, single-handedly… er, single-mouthedly?)

It’s not QUITE decades, but being in Europe as well and having to wait for the comics to get published here (plus about half a year where my eyes got fritzed and I couldn’t actually use them for any prolonged amount of time), I’m a bit out of date as well.

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I dunno, in my day Batman always seemed to be the most popular…and he’s more like Ignis.

But, yeah, Spidey was always pretty popular too and Superman’s wealth, like everything else about Superman varied hugely with the particular scenario writer from a struggling journalist at a struggling paper with depression era farmer parents mortaged up to the hilt to Clark being one of the more successful media professionals (aka a millionaire in service to the billionaires) with adoptive parents who owned essentially a modern mid-sized agribusiness…so they’d (technically) be multi-millionaires too. Plus on his planet he technically would have been royalty.

Anyway, like Spidey in your picture the mc is technically part of the league and the league does have money…still having to ask Ignis for money to take Mars on a date merely shifts the embarrassment, it’s like asking your mom for extra allowance.

Plus Ignis herself as a housemate and socialite gossip is part of the reason why my mc can’t simply use his cooking skills to invite Mars to a home-cooked dinner date.

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