A Tale of Heroes (WIP) - 224k words. Updated 29/01/2025!

i COULD BE HER THERAPIST FOR FREEEEEE
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Wow, these heroes have massive problems. How can the government even let these guys run amock with them having a mental faculty of a teen.

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That’s the neat part, they don’t really have a choice. If the government did decide to try and “Nationalise” the heroes they would have to formally conscript them for life, and in America where the foundations of government were to limit the actual power and oversight over itself. Not a great look if they try doing that. Furthermore if any of the big three (Seeker, Forlorn, Ignis) decided not to comply what would be the response there? All three of them are powerful enough to cause massive issues if they weren’t friendly. So what’s the easiest middle ground? Let a group of powerful heroes establish a group with national backing from Congress in the form of budget support. That way the government could theoretically exude some balance of power over the League. (But in reality most likely not because one of the founding members has ridiculous amounts of money if desperate enough).

This solves two main issues. The first being the control over such individuals, as if there is a group that is formally backed there is no need to allow another group. Hence allowing for an easy monitoring and control over the “Powered” population. The second being the requisition of power, I will admit i’m not to knowledgeable about the situation of the league. However because it’s mentioned they receive funding approved by Congress they likely have contractual obligations to the U.S. and as such can most likely be utilized in a time of emergency or to deal with powered threats.

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How exactly do you think they’d be able to stop them?

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Do you really think they could beat America?

The strength of America?

The speed of America?

The Constitution of America?

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Quick, replace speed with Dexterity and add three more stats and you got a DnD character.

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I take back what i said Forlorn is better the seeker supremacy ends here :sunglasses:

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America
Aarakocra Barbarian Lv.1
HP 14
Strength 15
Constitution 14
Dexterity 13 +2
Wisdom 12 +1
Charisma 10
Intelligence 8

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Well, see, that’s sort of the problem.

They don’t have a choice.

A state’s legitimacy rests at least partially on the monopolization of force, on its ability to convince the majority of the people to submit to its authority, and its ability to coerce the ‘harmful’ actors that may choose not to. This is sort of why authoritarian regimes manage to hold onto power despite taking away civil liberties and the like- their monopoly on the threat of violence is often capable of keeping people in line, as most human beings much prefer living to dying.

The problem with the League is, the United States doesn’t have the power to coerce them into following orders. Its leading quartet is magnitudes faster than any weaponry in the American arsenal, figures within the team have survived the most destructive weaponry in the world twice, and at least one of them has matched the full war effort of not the United States alone, but the whole Allied contingent in World War 2.

What can America do to contain them? Send the jets they can outrun with a light jog? Carpet bomb their own cities, failing to do harm to these figures and destroying their own infrastructure? Declare open war, so Ignis vaporizes Capitol Hill while Forlorn and Seeker start marching inland from opposite ends of the country and utterly destroying every single part of the US Armed Forces that stands in their way?

I make jokes about this often, but the League is a force that doesn’t really have any checks on it. The only figures in the team that could be reasonably argued to feel allegiance to the American State over their companions are Dark Star and maybe Mars- who are… good people, really, but someone Lat could calmly wipe the floor with, much less the main trio, each of which is strong enough to beat the combined rest of the team.

So the American government’s being held at gunpoint. It either grants legitimacy to these figures and tries to ‘associate’ their acts with the will of the government, or it declares them threats and tries to wipe them out.

Last time someone tried to wipe out people on this level, the preeminent Western Imperial Power of the time got savaged so severely it had to go beg for peace before it collapsed from the inside out- and it ended up creating a nation that to this day freely and openly opposes the Great Powers as it wishes.

And the Queen liked the Romans. Seeker and Forlorn don’t like America- and Ignis has spent the past year and a half being smeared so utterly by it she has grown to actually wish for its collapse.

What do you think these guys might do to this empire?

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they got too much power bro this is crazy how do we even catch up like ever :persevere:. would we even be needed it seems like we could just sit back and watch what’s the point of going on missions if they end in seconds :rofl: we got female green lantern and two superman’s one with anger issues and the other silent and selfish how do we even fight a villain punch their corpse? its like dropping kicking a already dead deer. The MC must got something in the back pocket if not. being a side character is cool too :smile:

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Same way the government ‘let’ tornadoes run amock or ‘let’ other governments exist: They don’t have a choice and even somehow succeeding in ‘stopping’ them would just make the situation much worse.

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And Nova can probably collapse the entire US electronic-based infrastructure with three and a half keystrokes while sitting in low orbit. “Nice economy you have there. It’d be a shame if someone hacked it.”

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is it weird that I’m praying on their down fall ? :anguished:

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Aren’t mc and Lat supposed to get at least as strong as Forlorn too? At least that is what the alien inside the mc seems to push us towards. And honestly my mc would like that too since it means he could stop living in fear of the menace that is Forlorn if they’re on more equal footing.

If this happens it would be interesting, otherwise as you have said MC will be just more of a side character, and more of a Team? story rather than MC’s, unless of course MC somehow becomes more powerful, which I don’t see happening (atleast not in book 1, and even later it would be difficult to implement imo). And I read in the discussion tha Seeker is a self-insert. Anyone care to explain what that means?

it just cant be possible no way we get that strong in that short of a time

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Nah Jjcb wouldn’t do us like that it cant be true :sob:

One word: Anime. This seems to have some qualities of anime and the heroes there often jump in power levels quite suddenly, sometimes even right in the middle of a fight. MC’s energy powers already did that with the comet shield as previously mc had no idea they could turn themselves into a blazing hot comet.

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Umm… what is a self-insert?

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Just know if its true gang we was bound to lose Ignis from the jump well even if it wasn’t true we would still lose her nothing wrong with a self insert tho just would be kind a crazy for ignismancers

like imagine your the Mc all happy with ya boo Ignis gets robbed and finessed by your own teacher that turns out to be the author that would be crazyyyy

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