A Mage Reborn, Book Two (WIP) - UPDATED April 5th, 2025 | Book One Released!

What I find fun about this series is the fact that the heroic sacrifice isn’t the end, but rather the beginning, and we get to experience the repercussions of it – for better or for worse.

Edit; done writing now after a minor mishap with posting prematurely LOL.

unsure how aggressive to be with tagging spoilers so I'll just hide it all LOL; spoilers abound

I think that’s the reason I like Leon despite how book 1 ended; you so rarely get to see crippling flaws of characters introduced as the “golden boy”. They might have flaws, sure. Pride, wrath, etc, but the repercussions of those flaws are rarely (if ever) explored, because, at the end of the day, you’re meant to like that character.

He’s introduced as reckless, self-righteous, and oblivious. Interestingly enough, the fate of our MC ends up painting even some of his positive traits as a flaw – self-assurance/confidence is rarely a negative trait, but in context of the ending/beginning of book one, it actually works against him. His own self-assurance is part of what leads him not to consider alternative options. He’s not the type to stop and think – not when people’s lives can be saved. If indeed the MC is dangerous, something needs to be done before something worse happens. In the snippets of his life that we are privy to, that sort of thinking never backfired on him in any meaningful capacity. The stakes are higher now, and I think that feeds into the recklessness that is displayed in him from the beginning. What’s great about him, I think, is how all of his flaws play into his decision, ultimately.

It’s also rarely explored in media, what comes after the heroic sacrifice. The story ends when the main character dies, and it’s assumed that people live on happily ever after. Those close grieve, but ultimately the grief of a few matter less than the greater repercussions.

That’s probably why I’m personally keen on getting back to Param. We get to see some of the repercussions of grief and heroic sacrifice in what Eli did for MC, and the MC does the same for Param and the crew there. I’m excited to see how everyone is coping (or isn’t) after the execution. Grief is part of growth, and what the MC did for the Param crew is, with certainty, something that will change each character. Being able to ask Ilya to forgive Leon being a conscious choice at the end is fascinating, because of the implication is that she may not even consider that a possibility if you don’t ask that of her. Despite being the “healer” (a character archetype often recklessly giving), she’s always been far more grounded and practical than Leon. Saine, we’ve seen, is taking things rather poorly. Being the youngest and most impressionable of the crew, I think he had the greatest potential to bounce back positively or be affected disastrously by the loss of a close friend.

All this is to say – the book 2 demo is delightful so far, but I’m itching to see my old friends again ;O;. And Leon I guess LOL. I’m so keen to see how he grows and changes from the MC’s death, whether he leans even harder into his flaws or truly works to change them; whether the MC’s final moments and how they acted would have an effect on his character trajectory.

Tahlia is also easy to dislike but at the same time she’s an incredibly compelling character. The further tragedy that the MC continues to be a tool on someone else’s chessboard even after death is so fun. Regardless of how the MC feels upon death, whether they swore revenge or sought to forgive, the MC is once again being used. One can argue that she is a convenient tool for vengeful MCs to achieve their goals, but ultimately, the MCs dependence upon her means that they’re still ultimately collared and lacking agency. I’m curious to see how the MC ends up taking their agency back after being so firmly shackled to someone as Tahlia did by resurrecting the MC (potentially against their will).

It’s a fun story and I can’t wait to see where it goes!

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“I will have answers. Or I’ll chop your head off myself.”
Proceeds to burn MC alive

me:
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Oh yeah, wanted to replay to this - the spar was a test for the retainers, it was business, not just pleasure. He definitely chose a nap instead of work later tho, lol.
But why I wanted to answer is… well, it’s not Leon who runs away from responsibilities. Sure, he leaves for the first time, because otherwise some people might try to pit brothers against each other, and Leon didn’t want to deal with that. But when he comes back - he isn’t very happy, but he is ready to do what must be done. Saine, however, wants to leg it. And I also believe that all of our friends weren’t thinking straight in the end. It’s just that Leon ended up feeling guilty for not listening to Ante’s warnings earlier and letting this whole mess happen, and Ilya and Saine decided to be the good guys even if facts didn’t say anything in suppor of the Mage and their decision undermines their friend and brother’s rule like a good landmine.

Also also are we to see Leon in the November update or is it only Ilya, I kinda forgot?

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i see you putting the mountain goats on your amr playlists and i love you for it

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Might as well just throw my flag into the ring at least once.

The MC is literally a war hero that single-handedly won the war and saved Param at a (very visible!) terrible cost to themselves. Yet they were given zero benefit of the doubt and zoomed off to public execution within one week with no trial and no proper investigation.

That is the way you treat someone that you wanted to dispose of all along and were just waiting for a plausible reason to do so. (And I wouldn’t be surprised if that was exactly what the Anti-Arcadian church was banking on all along)

And let us not forget said war that just finished (because of the MC!) was literally fought against a country whose entire government had been brainwashed & mind controlled. This is a setting where magic mind control has been indisputably proven to exist.

The first, second, and third thing that should come to mind for anyone with two braincells (unfortunately a thing only Saine & Ilya seem to possess in Param) when someone has suddenly started acting murderously OOC is to wonder has this person been magically compromised?. (Not to jump to the baffling conclusion that “they were secretly teh evulz all along with this idiotic plan that accomplished nothing”)

This isn’t modern sensibilities. This is basic common sense. It’s a huge security risk if there’s someone still running around mind controlling people, particularly if that person is able to overpower someone like the MC, so you damn well better figure out what is actually going on before doing something irrevocable (like setting your country’s greatest weapon on fire).

And that’s the objective outside POV of the situation for those who know nothing about the MC. People who actually personally knew the Mage should damn well know better with their doing a complete 180 personality flip from saintly saviour and with them still acting strange even while in custody.

The defense that Leon was “forced” into the execution by outside pressure holds no water as (if the MC acts like a villain in the dungeon) Leon will literally offer to free the MC. So what the heck happens to all the pressure from the Church and all the potential rebellions and etc etc etc in that potential route where Leon frees the MC? What was he planning to do then, and why couldn’t he just do that anyway? Because quite frankly Leon himself thinks he has the power to just let the MC walk. And in the end, it’s his choice-- and his alone-- that ends up BBQing the MC.

Forget the MC being a comrade-in-arms. Forget them being a friend. Forget them potentially being a lover. They are literally the greatest resource Param has at their disposal.

Quite frankly that he thinks these daft decisions are something a proper King would do just proves how unsuitable he is for the role. Like I would give him better props if he was actually being Machiavellian and trying to get rid of the MC.

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I agree with this! I think that painting his decision as his hand being forced (to please others) cheapens the weight of the decision. Ultimately, the execution is the result of a culmination of his flaws and traits, consciously made.

Leon has very rarely made decisions to please others, he always did what he felt was right.

He was never meant to be a good ruler, that much is even said. He’s too reckless, too oblivious, too straightforward. Even his positive traits make him an easy target for manipulation (by us, by Ante, by any number of people) because his confidence in himself is unwavering, but the same cannot be said about his confidence in others. Ante worked that angle by driving that wedge in bit by bit, the MC drives in the final nail by proving all of Ante’s whispers correct. I think he’s aware of his own obliviousness to some extent, so his reliance on others to see what he can’t plays a huge role here. That’s the advantage Ante has over Saine and Ilya too – she never knew the MC personally, thus, logic follows that she would be the most objective source of information, free of manipulation. What he does not consider is whether or not that “objective observer” has their own set of biases they are pushing. It doesn’t seem like something that ever would’ve naturally occurred to him.

It also puts so much power in the MC’s hands – how he’ll grow and move on from there. The MC has such potential to absolutely destroy him, it’s the closest thing to agency the MC has currently because by sheer virtue of being alive, they already hold more power over him than they’ve ever had over anyone else in their life, really.

That’s why I think Leon’s character is so fun. He’s just a whole disaster and I’m here for it :joy: (but I love characters that are easy to bully, so maybe those are my biases showing too LOL)

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Other side? You mean Arcadia?

The side that kills people for money to fund their terrorist campaign with the goal to kill all of the MC’s friends?

Led by a bigot who openly considers her kind ubermensch above the mere peons?

Who boasts about using telepathy to turn Arcadia into a surveillance state where even the privacy of one’s own thoughts is routinely violated?

A leader who is not above extorting the MC with the threat of a painful death for cooperation?

What do you mean “wait for their evils to be revealed?” Thalia is very upfront about her moral bankruptcy.

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Personally I’ll fight for someone who brought me back versus who killed me :sweat_smile:

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i wonder if we’ll have the option to accuse leon of that later! knowing what we know about how leon reacted to everything, it’s obvious that leon really cared about the mc–he just handled a very emotional situation very (perhaps inexcusably) poorly–but mc doesn’t know any of that, and it really fits a pattern of exploitation in their life. i wonder if some mages wouldn’t look back on that whole relationship and suspect foul play.

i think i would love an opportunity to say something to the tune of, “You never once hesitated to put me in danger, and, no matter how much I did for you, you got rid of me as soon as I became inconvenient to you. When did I become just a resource to you?”

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Hopefully so! That sort of accusation vs Leon fits in with one of the choices if you go back to meet Saine during the festival instead of watching the fireworks.

When you learn that Param was holding festivities to raise morale and “pray for the MC who died a sinner’s death” you can choose to have your MC feel infuriated that Param used the MC during their life and is still using them in their death. Not much of a step to extend that further to Leon directly.

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You mean work for the person who let you die so as to manipulate you, you mean.

Arcadia knew about the collars. Knew about the ritual and the Saintess.

Thalia could have had the collar undone whenever she liked. You were an Arcadian arcanist, supposedly someone who she claims to care about, who she is supposedly fighting for.

Thalia could have spared you the pyre by letting it slip about the ritual to Leon’s spy network.

You got executed because Thalia thought you a pile of ash she could bring back under her thumb was more convenient than a living ally.

I mean you can be grateful for her cynically letting you die as to manipulate your emotions, but I pass, thank you.

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I think we can all agree no side of this argument holds any moral ground. All the modern nations of this world (realized Param is only a single nation not the name of the continent lol) benefited in one way or another from the fall of Arcadia and the continued discrimination of said arcadians. It’s also highly likely that Arcadia during it’s prime of magical dominance made all of these nations as tributary/vassal states and weren’t exactly nice magical overlords about it considering there are practices such as mind control and I would bet that experimenting on non-arcadians who weren’t as skilled in magic wasn’t out of the norm.

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No I mean a person who gave me power, home, purpose and on other thing I can’t say because it’s spoilers for now. Of course everyone knows its not because of the goodness of her heart. They are pretty upfront about that. But as we go in circles with debates anyway I’ll say again none of that happens if you support Arcadia. No collar or anything. And of course we are an asset to her but when the goals align you are in a good position and have a lot of freedom

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leon trying to hire a new court mage

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Nope, not really the mc is in much more pain and much worse off than they were now…if this was about giving mc power they’d try to help and get rid of at least the three useless parasites. Since every additional parasite is established to weaken the mc the mc is weaker now, with five or even possibly six of the parasites than they were with just four.

If a prison is a home, then I suppose so.

You mean she uses the mc for her purposes…my mc never really cared about Arcadia, if anything he detested it because they devised the arcane collars that ruined his life twice over now. Plus the old Arcadians became colossal morons at one point who have nobody to blame for the demise of their civilisation than themselves as they were doomed when their supposedly brilliant elders started to share less and less of their knowledge, which is vital to sustaining a civilization, let alone maintain power as a Hegemon, with their own kids.
I mean what if my generation had decided to stop sharing any knowledge about electricity with our own kids? Pretty much a recipe for the decline of modern civilization, yet that is what the paranoid old arcadian morons decided was a jolly good grand idea. :unamused:

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All your answers are too subjective. This is why you can choose your own path but it’s not objectively a home/prison. Depending on your story it’s one or the other.

Kinda false but wait for the update

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The first and second ones, sure…it all depends on how cool you are with forcibly being made a part of a terrorist organization.

The Third one is literally stated in the game that the old Arcadians were an increasingly paranoid bunch who refused to share their most precious magical knowledge with even their own children. .

Sure, they do meet most of the criteria for being terrorists though. And my mc does not see them as freedom fighters when the supremacist state under god-empress Thalia is likely going to be much worse than even the current not so great regimes (or outright bad regime in the case of the slavering Empire) for every non-Arcadian and every Arcadian who is not in perfect lockstep with god-empress Thalia too in a “new Arcadia” victory scenario.

The part about the old arcadians being paranoid knowledge hoarding bastards and refusing to share with even their own kids is not subjective as that is quite literally stated in the game, unless Thalia is wrong about that too of course.

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Weather Arcadia is a terrorist organization or not is also subjective. What’s that line? One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

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I mean you’re both arguing two sides of a coin here. On one hand the modern Arcadians can provide a safe secure place for the MC to come to terms with both their heritage and what has occurred since their death, and can feel obligated or convinced to join the Arcadians. On the other hand if your MC does not buy into the ideals and objectives the modern Arcadians have then yes, you become a slave soldier whose purpose is to act in the interest of Tahlia. Both of you are correct but wrong at the same time.

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You’re right it just depends on your MC’s worldview and perspective but also that’s the beauty of interactive fiction.
I think @Sujan_Dhakal summed it up nicely in the last comment

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