Only if you’re a terrible leader and treat him like shit
Try not being a fallout raider chief and see if his disposition brightens up
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I treat him best all way (Our relationship 80+)but he say as if I am bad leader because he upset I don’t take his suggest and take Missy Monica Ander in group
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Of course he gets mad when you literally abandon a child to die in a zombie apocalypse
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@maveric619 He don’t want Missy Monica Ander in group.but Rachel want .It make him upset . Jaime want abandon child ,Ander and Monic ,It not me . Your information is wrong.I suggest you play it again and read it very carefully.
Under is discussion between Jaim MC Rachel in ending Part 3 Read it!!!
“I feel for the kid, but I completely disagree. She’s safer inside that fence,” Jaime says, pointing toward the Silverthorne camp.
“You truly believe a place under attack by the infected is safer than our junkyard?” Rachel asks. Jaime doesn’t answer.
You hear the heavy motor of a truck rolling down the side road. More gunshots fire in the distance, and a helicopter circles overhead.
“I don’t mean to rush you, but we kind of have to move things along here. Are we heading back to the camp of death, or are we going with you?” Anders asks.
“Welcome to the group, Anders. You too, Monica, and of course Missy,” you say and start toward the military jeep.
“This is a mistake,” Jaime says. “Alisha, don’t we even get to vote about this? Sure, we heard from everyone, but I’m sure the people back at camp want their say.”
“Let it go, Jaime. The decision’s made,” Rachel says and follows after the two of you. “It was the right call…” Her voice trails off, and she stumbles a few steps until she lands on her hands and feet. You rush to her side and take her arm to support her and keep her from falling. Though her skin’s ghostly pale and covered in sweat, it’s burning. She leans into you, and her cheek presses against your arm. You feel the heat radiating until her head swings backwards.
“Rachel, your fever is out of control. We need to get you back to the junkyard, now.”
“That sounds nice,” she says as her eyes close and she goes limp against you.
You lift her in your arms and carry her to the back seat of the passenger van. As you lay her down, you can hear her softly singing.
“Hush-a-bye, don’t you cry…go to sleep, my little baby…when you wake, you shall have…all the pretty little horses.”
Everyone in your group rushes to get inside the passenger van. Anders lifts Missy into the vehicle, and then he and Monica find a spot.
You climb into the military jeep and start the engine. Another vehicle is flying down the road to the west, and the gunfire from the Silverthornes’ camp has died out. Your small caravan pulls out of the clearing and heads down the road leading back to the highway. You glance at the passenger van and see Jaime at the wheel, his face expressionless like it’s made of stone. His reaction to Monica, Anders, and his daughter surprised you, surprised everyone. The way he yelled at them startled everyone in the clearing. Has the outbreak finally gotten to him? Will he ever be the same again?
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I haven’t had issues with Jaime all that much. Though I have never done a playthrough where I wasn’t the leader, nor have I ever had him as my second in command, I always give that to Rachel, as she was leading the other half of the initial group. This, combined with gifting, and character interaction. has led to my group allegiance being in the mid 90s. In the last opportunity for character interaction in part 3, when asked, literally every member said either they fully support me, or at the very least couldn’t see the group running any better. Even Jaime basically said the new election was to give the new recruits an opportunity to have a say in leadership, which I kind of agree with. Ultimately, Jaime, in my opinion, is a valuable member of the group, from intimidating presence alone, the guy is 6’10 and 400 lbs of muscle. No one wants to fight a guy that size.
Kelly is my quartermaster, so I’m opposed to banishing her. Billie helped me with food in part 1, and she’s a skilled farmer. Makes her possibly the most valuable member of the group, outside fighters. Just saying. Also, for Jim D. There really needs to a farming job assignment, especially if you have the farm plot, chicken coop, and greenhouse.
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Hey, anyone noticed the new save point at the end of Part 3? Thanks @JimD ! 
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Kelly bring sliverthorne to our camp and after Sliverthorne threaten to kill us.But she suggested us to make peace with them WTH .she has hight change to take side with Silverthrone. because her action in hill prove enemies easy to manipulate her. (well…she isn’t smart )
Billie she doesn’t interested in defense us from Silverthorne at all (she ignore our security and not willing to fight with other to defend us That is why I want her leave group with Jaime)
Jaime welcome all Silverthorne to our camp without prepare for worst situation (and He see Silverthorne threaten to kill us is only misunderstand situation WTF) and all intruder in junkyard just like Jacob who trying rob us (ํIf It were you, you want give food for who trying steal and have ball to demand our food? .Well…But Jaime , Billies,Parker ,kelly want to give them food because They just feel hungry so they try to steal from us??? WTF) .he see everyone is good people and not prepare for every worst situation. That why It is dangerous for group . He isn’t good change in survive in apocalypse world. And He object all good plan to increase our survive chance.but he just get along to manipulate us .(you will see it in start C.11 he object Rachel plan to scout depot in first time,but mostly in group agree with Rachel so he just get along with it. )That is his true self. and It start break in past 3 he just like his friend Dillian ,but Dillian just doesn’t pretend to good people.
Rechel is overparanoid and that is only her big mistake.but she is better than Jaime.she focus on more survive and safety in group but she ignores morale in group and that why it make her bad leader
P.S Well…mostly is my point view
P.S2 I’m okay with Parker because at least he understand Silverthrone is thread. but Trio (๋Jaime,Kelly,Billie) should out of group .
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I think Jaime is a good friend but hes spineless, he always wants the easy way out and doesnt wanna take risks. I understand his point of view but without risk there are no rewards. The reality of the apocalypse is starting to break him and he needs to be kept an eye on.
Sean is simply a hothead, hes the type of person that needs to be kept on a leash but he loyal and has good ideas good to keep around.
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I can see your point of view. I just see things differently. It’s one of the things I love about this game, hearing how others look at the same situations I was presented, and how they chose to react.
HWB, Jaime seems like the kind of guy who is cool, until he isn’t. I carry two black belts, and I wouldn’t fuck with a guy Jaime’s size. Maybe if I had something like a crowbar, but I’d really have to think hard about it. I’m not sure Sean is all that loyal, he’s definitely the shiftiest neighbor, and for sure the most self serving neighbor. Then there’s the fact that he fucks up, badly, twice. The RBMC trike incident, he’s close enough to attacking you that Lopez puts his hand on his pistol and moves behind Sean. So it’s setting off warnings with a trained soldier. I trust that thinking. That was strike one. Instigating his own mugging, by way of picking a fight with Jaime, is strike two. If he reaches strike three, I’ll be adding another notch to my katana.
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I very pleasure to exchange point view with you . Your point view about Sean is very interesting.(I start question about Sean’s loyal because he also want re-election like Jaime.I think one way possible is he want fuck Jaime in his own way or he want be leader (I think maybe depend on our relationship with him and group’s loyal status ) I hope Sean and Jaime character will come clear in part 4 (Well…Jaime issues add more stress for me hahaha) but overall I prefer Sean more than Jaime .
@Geralt P.S. If I understand correctly From Jim answer for re-election,we can reject new re-election,right? Well…I don’t want re-election becuase have a lot of to deal now .
Jamie is kinda overrated and hyped. I mean sure, he’s your bro and means well and all, but at the same time the going mad is changing him for likely not the better. As a leader, he’s trash. As a ‘co-leader’ he’s mediocre. As a friend well… He’s alright.
Considering the possible beat down of Sean, who was certainly asking for it (reap what you so my guy), something is likely gonna snap in him and it’s gonna not be a pretty site.
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Me when Jamie finally snaps for real. It’ll be a damn shame.
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I wonder if it will be like the Emma bite in ZE (although that one is preventable in the cure ending, so maybe a Jaime snap is also preventable).
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I didn’t finish ZE, I bought it after I finished ZE:SH, and I think that affected my impression of ZE. It’s not that it was bad, at all, it was just a big step down from ZE:SH. That being said, the only “crack” I’ve seen from Jaime, was talking to himself in the forest, and that didn’t really bother me. If Jaime is cracking, I’m sure Jim will give options to avoid or at least mitigate the fallout.
Never played a game where anyone but MC was leader, and I don’t give Jaime second, because Rachel has experience, and the loyalty of several group members. So he’s always just been my friend, and honestly, even when he’s unhappy about the decision I make, he still does his part. I’ve seen him disagree with me, but he’s never directly undermined my leadership. It’s like I told Sean, Jaime worries more then most, so I let him have his say, and then make a decision. AS long as the big guy keeps falling in line, he’s golden. Same with anyone else who puts their name forward for leadership. It’s okay to question my decision, and I appreciate hearing what other group members think, so long as when I decide, people do as they’re told.
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@Geralt He does like Tom does to Minny while Minny take over as Leader.Jaime try to bring up about election issues and point your mistake (in ending part 3 he start to point that taking Missy Monica Ander is very mistake and he hard point this is your mistake.This is first sign for rejection our authority , disloyal and traitor if you let him roam free or do nothing.yes he is our friends but he changes now.he will become as Tom V.02,if we not hard keep check him or not keep him in line or not hard remind him that he isn’t leader of this group.I believe someday he will shot your back even you are his good friend or lover just like Tom does to MC in ZE
He bring up about re-election now.It mean you are not good leader for him ,he is very unhappy and he want change leader . and If you are chosen by group again.he will find your mistake and bring up this issue again in the future . And If you still are chosen by group in future ,he will find way to elminate you in subtle way becuase he very very unhappy and dislike how you organize group in your own way.
Even Sean is jerk and troublemaker but he have point about Jaime .and he dislike people start to wanna be leader and try to undermind leader’s authority because It’s make group lack unity and bring member group to dangerous or dead by zombies or bandits just like Sliverthrone or Forest Rat .
@Geralt Could I ask you about re-election? Can we reject re-election ? I see post Jim I understand you can reject re-election ,am I understand correctly ?
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You are right about them both being troublemakers in the group. They are both ticking time bombs. Sean being an idiot stealing the property of the other group even though he should of known one way or another by talking to others, yelling at the mc every chance he gets which is the worst idea since we are one of the main leaders and respected by most of the group.
Jaime is sensitive and Sean said the wrong thing which turned it into a beat down. Funny enough he’s the only one who wants a re-election if he’s not in charge which is pretty obvious it’s just feelings even though he is second in command with a few others. He doesn’t like not controlling anything which is why I did but now he’s doing what u said. It’s annoying but nothing can be done until the new election happened or got skipped.
Sean has to go since a few of the group don’t like him which is basically all leaders and everyone saw he started it on purpose. Maybe with him gone Jaime will calm down but he needs to grow up and stop this subtle act to undermine the mc or Racheals leadership if she recovers soon
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I prefer Jaime have to go more than Sean . actually I trust Sean more than Jaime . (I don’t trust Jaime since he start to undermine MC/Rachel authority)And Sean is great asset of group for increasing Survive change more than Jaime. I quite sure people like Jaime will bring us to destruction .If I have to choose ,I choose Sean . I don’t want keep potential traitor near me even that traitor is my best friend.
(์ No eternal allies, and No perpetual enemies…Your best friend can become your enemie and your enemie also become your best friend . I can put Jaime in this case )
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Hiya, so the link to the public beta isn’t working for me. When I click on it, it tells me that the site can’t be reached.
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It depends on your network, I’ve found. And possibly your browser.
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Tested it on Chrome, Edge, and GX. Must be the network. Yep, used GX’s VPN feature. works now. Thank you 
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