WW2 Chronicle: Tiger Ace (a historical fiction in-progress)


#1

Hunter-RVN here. You can refer me as Hunter or Raven. A new member that also has an account in ChooseYourStory and published a storygame there. Yeah, I know… this might be somewhat embarrassing and self-promotion. So I apologize for that.

So I’m working on a WW2 storygame on CYS. Not on here though since the quality of the story won’t fit in here. But I’ll try to make it good.

It’s a historical fiction where you play as Ernest Gunther and his crews – battle-hardened veteran tank crews that have participated in Operation Barbarossa in a Panzer III. Later drive a Tiger tank during 1943 and the Koenigstiger in Battle of Berlin.

No intention of glorifying the Nazi party. It’s mostly about war, WW2 armored warfare, relationships, brotherhood, things like that. And a bit romance between a German rookie tank crew and a Russian young woman. Plus, there will be a part where you play as Russians raiding a camp fortified by the Waffen-SS.

Later on, I’d probably look for a beta-reader from this site. Preferably a history military buff.

I’ll get into the details later. Thanks for reading this.

Cheers! :slight_smile:


#2

First page of the storygame:

“Mein Fuhrer,” Colonel general Heinz Guderian, commander of the 2nd Panzer division asked.

“Is it really necessary to attack Kursk, and indeed in the east this year? Do you think anyone even knows where Kursk is? The entire world doesn’t care if we capture Kursk or not. What is the reason that is forcing us to attack this year on Kursk, or even more, the Eastern Front?”

“I know,” Hitler answered. “The thought of it turns my stomach.”

Guderian concluded, “In that case your reaction to the problem is the correct one. Leave it alone.”


The conversation took place in the spring of 1943. It wasn’t that often Hitler feel nervous like this. German army succumbed to the Russian winter and slowly losing grounds. Operation Barbarossa was a fail. Hitler didn’t learn from Napoleon Bonaparte. And the German army mounted another offensive yet again.

Operation Citadel, or better known as the Battle of Kursk – the largest and bloodiest tank battle in history. Many lifes of both sides were lost during the battle.

At the early part of world war two, the blitzkrieg attack of Nazi Germany was a success. They caught their opponents off-guard, made the British to retreat and left a lot of their equipment at Dunkirk, conquered most European nations, and eventually went to Africa, where Erwin Rommel led the Afrika Korps to fight against the Commonwealth and American forces there.

Hitler also ignored the treaty between him and Stalin and started Operation Barbarossa and attacked Soviet Union. It seemed successful at first. But then, Allied forces gained initiative and Germany started to weaken.

How lucky the German soldiers who died in France, Poland, Greece, or the other fronts at the early stage of the war. At least they knew they will be victorious and brought glory to the Fatherland. Eastern front was a different story.

Soviet T-34 and KV-1 tanks wrecking Panzer IIIs and Panzer 38s, Russian Winter, freezing to death, starving, Stalingrad, bloodier warzones, losing a lot of friends, and many other things that soldiers don’t like.

It wasn’t until Kursk where Germany upgunned and uparmored their panzers. Panzer IVs were being upgunned with the new 75-milimeter Kwk 40 main gun. which has superior penetration compared to the 76-milimeter F-34 of the T-34s. Frontal armor was also increased from 50 to 80-milimeter thickness. New tanks such as the Tigers and Panthers were also built.

Despite that, Germany lost Kursk, and they can’t afford to replace all of their losses. The tide of the war was turned after that…
What Hitler did during world war two was very horrible. But not all German soldiers were Nazi sympathizers. Most of them were just the average soldiers fighting for their homeland.

Germany’s engineering remained to be regarded as better compared to their enemies. One of the most well-known was…
Panzerkampfwagen VI “Tiger” heavy tank. Simply referred as the Tiger.

Probably the most iconic and popular heavy tank of world war 2, aside from IS series and Pershing. This tank was a feared behemoth in the battlefield. It was very expensive, overengineered, had some reliability problems, and only around 1.300 Tigers were built. But they have good performance and their psychological effect caused “Tigerphobia” among the Allied forces.

First seeing action in Leningrad and all the way to Battle of Berlin, the Tiger is a piece of engineering not to be underestimated.
And this is the tale of Tiger “147” in Operation Citadel, Battle of Kursk. Commanded by Ernest Gunther.


#3

July 1943
Oberstleutnant Ernest Gunther, Tiger 147
503rd Heavy Tank Battalion, 3rd Panzer Division


“Driver, halt.”

As the tank commander said, the driver stopped the Tiger tank. A shell from a hidden Soviet anti-tank gun hit the front armor of the Tiger. But the 76-milimeter failed to penetrate its 102-milimeter thick armor and richocheted up to the sky. The driver turned the tank at 30 degrees angle and turned off the engine.

“Gunner, stand by,” said the commander.
The gunner pointed the 88-milimeter main gun to the direction of the enemies.

“AT gun near the bushes, range – five hundred meters. Fire when ready,” the commander continued.

The gunner measured the range and tilted the gun a bit upward.

“Target acquired. Firing,” said the gunner.

An enormous sound erupted as the 88-milimeter fired. The high explosive shell raced pass the green field and landed beside the anti-tank gun. The blast blew up the anti-tank gun and killed the crews. The Tiger tank continued to shoot the remaining targets as shell by shell hit the angled armor of the Tiger with little to no effect.

Soviet anti-tank guns had been eliminated. The other panzers advanced through the green field supported by mechanized infantry – panzergrenadiers. The panzergrenadiers eliminated the Soviet infantry hiding in the trenches with automatic weapons and grenades as the armors went through. The formation of Panzer IIIs behind the Tiger tanks destroyed the Soviet machinegunners entrenched in the pillboxes. With the machine gun nests destroyed, the panzer grenadiers got out from their cover and continued to advance.

Remaining Soviet forces retreated to the last line of defense – the fourth line. Their infantrymen were well-covered in the trenches and pillboxes. 57-milimeter anti-tank guns were hiding behind sandbags and their cannons roared. They took out some of the Panzer IIIs behind the third line. Hulled down SU-85 tank destroyers also knocked out one of the Tigers. Several panzergrenadiers were also killed by the machine gunners in the fourth line.
Tiger tank 147 and the other Tigers stood behind the third line. As the manual said, they angled their Tigers at 30 degrees angle to increase armor effectiveness. This also increased the chance of being shot in the tracks, but better a disabled tank rather than a dead tank.

“SU-85 beside the pillbox. Range – three hundred meters. Panzergranate laden!” Ordered the commander to the gunner through the radio intercom between crews.

“Loading!” The loader yelled, loading an armor piercing round.

“AP loaded! Ready to fire!” The loader again.

“Fire when ready!” The commander said.

The gunner fired a shot to an SU-85 beside the pillbox. The armor-piercing shell pierced through the hull and the explosive filler exploded inside, destroying the internal compartment and killing three of the crews. The tank burned down in flames after that. The remaining crew jumped out from the tank and escaped before the tank exploded.
Other Tigers destroyed or knocked out the rest of the SU-85 tank destroyers. Some Panzer IVs destroyed the anti-tank guns and the machine gun nests.

With the fortifications destroyed and anti-tank threats eliminated, the Panzer IIIs continued to advance with the panzergrenadiers. The Panzer IIIs bombarded the trenches with high explosive shells and the surviving Soviet soldiers were wiped out by panzergrenadiers.

The Tigers roared their engine and proceeded to catch up with the rest of the panzers. The panzergrenadiers occupied the fourth line and checked for any survivor. The retreating Soviet soldiers were all wiped out by machine gun fires from the Panzer IIIs.


All Soviet forces were neutralized. The Germans were victorious. Thanks to their Tiger tanks, they inflicted four times more casualties. Without the Tigers, they would have still won, but with even more lives to pay for. Even though were victorious, the German soldiers still swept across the trenches throughly and eliminated Soviet tanks to look out for any more survivors.

A lot of the German tanks stopped behind the trenches. They turned off their engines and some of the crews got out from their tanks. Most of them checked their tanks for any damage and scratches while a few of them helped the soldiers in their search for survivors.

Tiger 147 stopped behind a pillbox, which had been turned to rubbles by a Panzer IV’s 75mm HE round during the firefight. The driver turned off the engine. The hatches opened with a series of clangs and the crews got out, each carrying an MP40 submachine gun on their back.

“Dienhard, you go check her for any damage and scratches. The rest of you can rest for a while. Ivan might be dead, but we still got plenty of things to do,” ordered the tank commander.

“Jawohl,” the crew responded.

Soon, the gunner checked and analyzed the damages that the Tiger sustained throughout the fight. The other crew members sat beside the tank, bantering with each other. The tank commander went to the trenches.

The sky was blue and the weather was quite hot. Pigeons landed over the corpses of both sides. The green field used to be a good scenery until the war broke out. Then, the scenery was ruined by trenches, tanks, craters, smokes, and blood.

Chatting with fellow crew members wasn’t fun enough. After some minutes, the radio operator of the Tiger decided to look around a knocked out T-34. He walked near one and climbed on it, checking the large hole on the side of the turret, inspecting the German handiwork.

Unbeknownst to him, a Soviet soldier was laying below the tank, hiding with his Mosin bolt-action rifle. He peeked around to see if there were any Germans nearby. He didn’t see anyone so far. So far so good.

But the Soviet soldier also wasn’t aware about the radio operator of the Tiger standing around the knocked out T-34. The roaring noise of the Panzer IV engines did not allow him to hear much around him. He crawled out from the tank and attempted to escape undetected.

The young Soviet rifleman’s heart pounded heavily. He carefully walked to the side of the T-34. He saw the unaware German tank crew checking the hole on the T-34’s turret. He didn’t think that the radioman noticed him, so he tried to slip past him while still keeping an eye on him.

But the Tiger tank radioman jumped off from the tank and noticed the Soviet soldier. Panicked, the Soviet soldier pulled the trigger of his Mosin. The shot went thtrough the Tiger crew’s stomach. He collapsed and the rifleman ran away.

“I’m hit!” The radioman yelled as loud as possible, slowly succumbing to the deadly wound.

“Shot fired!” A panzergrenadier shouted.

The panzergrenadier saw the Soviet rifleman running across the plain field. He brought his Karabiner 98k rifle up to his cheek and aimed down the sight. Leading the target by a couple inches, he squeezed the trigger. The round went straight through from the back to his heart, instantly killing him.

The panzergrenadier rushed to the fallen tank crewman and checked his wound. He was badly wounded. Weak pulse. He screamed for a medic.

“Krankentraeger! We need a goddamn medic!” He shouted as he tried to stop the bleeding.

“Hang in there, my friend. Just hang in there. The doc will come soon.”


How is it? I hope it’s good enough.


#4

Anyway, here is the original similar topic I created in CYS.

http://chooseyourstory.com/forums/writing-workshop/message/20168

I kinda need someone who is a military buff to check for any error and historical inaccuracy mainly in equipment when I have finished some parts of it. CYS is a smaller community, and I can’t find anyone who has enough knowledge about WW2 and stuff I’m writing. So I came here.

Oh, and I also apologize if some other CYS members have made some of the CoG-ers feeling uncomfortable with their discussions. I’m a CYS-er, but I don’t intend to spread the stuff that the CYS forumers’ thoughts. I’m just here for my interests and fun of creative writing (because I’m a mercenary and not biased toward any side :stuck_out_tongue: )


Anyway here is some character development of the crews.


Tiger 147, a not-so-normal tank filled with young, not-so-normal veterans. They are one of the best crews of the entire heavy tank battalion.

The tank commander – Ernest Gunther, is an officer who has just been promoted from a leutnant to an oberstleutnant. He gets promoted quite quick for his battlefield finesse and performance. From unteroffizier to unterfeldwebel in Barbarossa, and from leutnant to oberstleutnant just before Operation Citadel (Battle of Kursk).

He still has much to learn about leadership. But he treats his men well and he doesn’t mind getting closer in his relationship with the panzer crews under his command. In fact, he doesn’t like to be addressed like a higher up all the time.

He is a talented tank commander and gunner. Being able to direct the tank in a way that no other tanker could. He also makes for a great general infantryman despite his role as a panzer crew.

He is a twenty three year old young man of an average height with brown hair, brown eyes, clean shaved, and a slender build.
Born as the only child of a chef and a tailor, he was a problem child during his childhood. Often having problems at school. Due to his grades and the family economical condition, he couldn’t afford to attend a university. He tried doing jobs like being a worker, cleaner, and such. But for certain reasons, he always ended up doing bad.

Seeing the outbreak of WW2 and Nazi party rising to power as a chance, he volunteered in the Wehrmacht as he hoped to get a suitable job for him. He did, and he found that being a panzer crew is “the best job he ever had.”

As the war continued, he eventually got sick of the situation and condition. He would normally smoke to take the edge off, but it’s not enough. Plus, after secretly witnessing the worse atrocities committed by Germany (particularly the SS), he started to question his reason of fighting as a soldier.

He fights for his homeland, not the Nazi party and that man with a narrow mustache.
As he witnessed more and more reality of war, he started to be more savage and ruthless, being more common in shooting retreating or surrendering enemy soldiers. He tried to not hurt civilians though. As he killed more and more Red Army soldiers ruthlessly, he eventually regretted his actions and would smoke or drink to forget about it. But he couldn’t.

He is a complex person. Killing enemies ruthlessly and enjoying doing his job, but on the other hand helping Russian civilians from the atrocities committed by other Germans. Sometimes acting nice to POWs, and sometimes just shoot them and be done with it.

A lost or damaged soul who is unsure about himself.

He is inspired by real life panzer aces such as Otto Carius and Kurt Knispel, as well Wardaddy (Brad Pitt) in the movie Fury.


The gunner – Arnold Dienhard is a hot-tempered, but nice twenty four year old with black hair, gray eyes, and a goatee. He is very good in mathematics, and it helps him in calculating range to ensure hit probability of the 88mm Kampfwagenkanone 36 gun of the Tiger.

A skilled gunner. Being able to hit targets and measure the drop accurately and even better – firing the gun with better accuracy whilst on the move. It is hard to hit targets while on the move, but he has mastered this difficult technique.

A student with good grades who was attending a university before he enlisted in the Heer.


Sven Rader is the tank’s loader. A tall twenty year old with blond hair, blue eyes. He might seem a nice guy at first, but he’s actually a hot-tempered guy who doesn’t like his role but he does his job well.

The strongest crew member since he needs those muscles for loading the 88mm shells. Also as good as Ernest using infantry firearms and doing infantry works, but that doesn’t mean the other crews aren’t good.


The driver, Ulrich Rockower, a twenty two year old with black hair, black eyes, is a former racer. Being a former racer helps a lot in doing his job. He knows how to treat the Big Kitty really well, and he treats her like he treats his cat.

He is also the most religious crew member other than the new guy.


Lastly, Leon Bauer – the radio operator and assistant driver. He was in a Panzer III before he transitioned to Tiger 147 to replace the wounded radio operator. He doesn’t have much experience, and he still has much to learn.

He is a short seventeen year old with a blond hair which is a bit longer than the regulation, blue eyes, and a scrawning body. He also has a baby, feminine face. So he will be the guy who does the serving drinks, cooking, tending, things like that most often.

At first, he has hesitation in killing and worried in the battlefield. But Ernest keeps encouraging him to be a better soldier. Eventually, he becomes one and starts to enjoy his job.

He acts as one of the two primary protagonists, other than Ernest Gunther.


#5

Aaand a combat scene when the protagonist went out for a scouting duty.

I also plan to add enclyopedias and infos about tanks, their details, etc as well. Plus real stuff like how the Waffen-SS was created, Waffen-SS divisions, Panzerkorps Grossdeutchland, Tiger tank history, Soviet shock armies, previous campaigns, etc. Might be a bit fourth wall breaking with those though, but the perspective is set in third perspective with the reader being a spectator and witnessing the things, not focused on the perspective of a charactr.


The reconnaissance units headed toward the hills. Passing the road, and into the green field. Ernest and Krueger wore their standard-issue military caps and not their officer caps. They were dressed almost like the other Wehrmacht soldiers since posing as officers would make them priority targets for the Red Army soldiers.

The 222 armored car and the truck stayed behind, hiding near bushes. The 222 will provide necessary fire support if needed. The panzergrenadier squad and officers will get into the hill, albeit carefully.

Oberstleutnant Ernest Gunther spied the hill with his binoculars, not exposing himself too much since there could be Soviet infantrymen hiding behind trees and bushes. Behind the car was Leutnant Krueger and some panzergrenadiers lying on the grass.

“See anything yet?” Krueger asked, carrying a Karabiner 98k he took from the staff car.

“Nope. Still scanning for possible threat,” Ernest replied.

Leutnant Krueger eventually put his rifle aside and observed with his binoculars too. Not long after, they saw a flash from one of the bushes. The glint – they knew something bad will happen.

A shot cracked, three hundred meters away from them. The shot dented the door of the car, almost hitting Ernest.

“Scheisse!” Ernest cussed as he ducks down.

“Sniper!” Krueger shouted, alerting the others.

The panzergrenadiers aimed their guns at the incoming fire. The machine gunner spit hellfire upon the predicted location with the rapid fire rate of the MG42. Its 1200 rounds per minute made distinctive, buzzing sound.

Green-lighted tracer rounds lazed through the air, making the Red Army soldiers easier to see them – and making the German soldiers know where they are aiming at.

Ernest saw several silhouettes moving from the tall grass.

“I see about four. They are probably relocating,” Ernest informed.

A moment later, another shot was heard from the Soviets. This time the shot hits the German machine gunner in the head, killing him.

“They got Hans!” Yelled the squad leader. “Pour the lead on them! And you! Take the MG42 and set it behind the car!” The squad leader ordered.

The other panzergrenadiers carrying rifles started shooting at the Soviet soldiers. Due to the distance and grassy environment making it harder to see enemies, their shots were inaccurate. But so did the Soviets.

The German sniper loaded five rounds in the chamber and steadily took aim. He listened to Ernest for the enemy locations.

“I see a glint in the bush, next to the tallest tree. Must be a sniper,” said Ernest.

The German sniper aimed at the bush. He could see the head of the sniper. The German sniper escalated the sight a bit upward to compensate for the bullet drop. He took a deep breath and squeezed the trigger.

Both snipers shot at the same time. The German sniper hit the Soviet Sniper, and the Soviet Sniper hit a German panzergrenadier. One soldier lost for each side. The rifleman that replaced the machine gunner now suppresses the Soviets with the MG42.

Choices:

  • Call in the 222
  • Advance without armored car support

#6

YES I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS LIKE YES.
Seriously, I['ve been waiting forever for this.


#7

Aha… thanks ^-^

I’m interested to see your WW2 airborne story. 101st, 82nd, Red Devils, and Fallschirmjaeger are all interesting!


#8

Ugh… sorry to disappoint, but lately I’ve been busy with school stuff and distracted by a few things. I have this one story (not storygame) fantasy napoleonic-like era idea that I always wanted to do and I just can’t get it off my head. But at the same time, this historical fiction with some facts… I must do this first.

Progress has been slooow as hell. Only if there is no school…


222 Support

The radio operator signaled the 222 armored car to come. The 222 revved its engine and went full speed to the panzergrenadiers and officers. The radio operator told the 222 where to shoot, and the gunner of the 222 did so, firing the 20mm autocannon rapidly. The HE rounds cut down trees, vaporizing a few Soviet soldiers.

The radio operator told that it was enough. So the 222 stopped firing. Ernest picked up a Kar 98 from the car. Panzergrenadiers and officers advanced to the hill. There were still surviving Soviet soldiers to worry about.
They entered the small forest and close-quarter fighting ensued.


Without 222 support

Ernest thought that they wouldn’t need the 222 for support. He was being paranoid that there might be Soviet soldiers with anti-tank rifles, and the 222 was vulnerable to them. So he continued to spot targets for the sniper.

After two more Red Army soldiers being counted toward the sniper’s kills, the panzergrenadiers advanced with the MG42 laying down continuous fire. Ernest picked up a Kar 98 and the officers followed the panzergrenadiers. There were still surviving Soviet soldiers to worry about.
They entered the small forest and close-quarter fighting ensued.


#9

Historical Fact: Waffen-SS

An info that will be added in the storygame.


Ah, the SS – those bastards who were the sole people that were reaponsible for the holocaust and other atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. The SS did nasty things and deemed as a criminal organization after the war. Let’s dig further into this ‘villain’ organization, especially its armed forces.

From its birth as Hitler’s personal bodyguard units to his private army.

Despite the fact that by the end of WW2 the SS was a truly vast organization, with branches that seemed to reach into almost every sphere of German life, and could boast an armed force of some of the most effective troops in WW2, its beginnings were less than impressive.

Initially starting as Hitler’s personal bodyguard units fully devoted to protecting his life, it steadily grew to a bigger organization as Hitler strived to power. And eventually, it fielded quite impressive army (and did horrible things).

Between 1933 and 1939, the power of the SS grew considerably. The armed SS was expanded, and the Gestapo and other SS police units began to round up the enemiea of the Reich. For Heinrich Himmler, his SS empire was expanding rapidly.

Were the SS soldiers just like any others? No simple answer. To attempt to be as objective as possible, it is necessary to consider the SS not as a single entity but as four broad groupings. First, those who served on the homefront or rear of combat zones, such as the SD (SS intelligence agency) and Gestapo. Second, the Totenkopf Division, part of the Waffen-SS but inextricably linked with the concentration camp guard units. Third, foreign volunteers who served in the ranks of the SS, and fourth, the so-called ‘classic’ Waffen-SS divisions, most of which were Nazi Germany and Aryan in origin.
Now let’s focus on the Waffen-SS.

Waffen-SS units had a ‘not-so-pleasant’ beginning in WW2, but they improved drastically as the war went on, and decreased dramatically as Germany was losing.

SS units began their first combat in Poland. Individual SS units did not find the Poles to be the pushover many had expected, but the losses suffered by the SS were high, largely due to aggressive and daring tactics instilled into its recruits during training, rather than to inexperience or poor leadership, as some of its Aemy detractors had suggested.

SS units were mostly trained just like their Wehrmacht counterparts, but they were much more ideology indoctrinated. They were thoroughly indoctrinated in Nazi philosophy so they would know what they were fighting for. While many believed, or came to believe in the SS creed, others were certainly more cynical and believed that they werw fighting to make Germany great again. These factors, coupled with their personal oath of allegiance to Hitler, goes a long way towards accounting for the almost suicidal determination and courage of the Waffen-SS soldiers and their disdain of death.

Initially, they failed to win the respect of most of the Heer’s senior commanders, probably unfairly, and were considered by their Army counterparts to have been to brash or reckless (the reason why they suffered high casualties). The SS in turn was critical of the Heer, insisting that its units had been misused, and had been given the most difficult and dangerous tasks. The truth probably lies somewhere in between.

Overall, the SS had played only a minor role in the Polish campaign, though the Leibstandarte division in particular had demonstrated the effecriveness of fully motorized infantry units, as ir was rushed from one sector of the front to another.

(The Leibstandarte ended up as the most elite Waffen-SS unit. Michael Wittmann also served in the Leibstandarte)

The SS units were also known to be more atrocious and savage, as they were more indoctrinated in the Nazi ideology and had specifically tasked units to do the nasty stuff (such as the Einsatzgruppen).

Soon, other SS units gained their experiences as they fought on the following battles. But the best of them was the Leibstandarte.

The Army, though it was now beginning to grudgingly admit that some Waffen-SS troops fought very well, still had some considerable misgivings. SS soldiers were, after all, considered to be political soldiers, and the lack of self-control led to such atrocities. Whereas the more experienced units (such as Leibstandarte) were led by by officers who had combat experience and could temper their natural aggressiveness and reckless daring with a little caution, the less experienced units lacked experience and suffered high casualties as a result.

Prior to Germany invasion of Soviet Union (thus breaking the treaty between Hitler and Stalin), they started to fill up the Waffen-SS with more volunteers. They started to replace casualties and imroved the quality and quantity of the Waffen-SS units.
The Leibstandarte and SS-Verfuegungsdivision were well equipped. Totenkopf Division was also equipped to a reasonable standard while Polizei Division remained as a second rate unit.

Now that Hitler had been satisfied that his Waffen-SS could perform well, he demanded that the SS would receive stuff as good as, or sometimes better than the Wehrmacht. Hitler’s campaigns in the East would eventually see the formation of 38 Waffen-SS divisions, still small in relation to the Heer, but whose influence in the war cannot be overestimated.

They also recruited personnel from Nordic countries such as Denmark, Netherlands, and Finland. Though the Waffen-SS tries to recruit west Europeans in their crusade against Bolshevism with posters and propagandas, research had shown that those were not the main reason the non-German volunteers donned SS uniform. Rather, they were motivated by such factors as boredom, better food, avoid dreaded compulsory labor service, lust for adventure, and the glamour of wearing an SS uniform.

Waffen-SS losses were extremely high. By mid-November 1942, for example, it had lost over 8400 men KIA and in excess of 27.115 WIA and 935 MIA. However, its combat achievements silenced many of its detractors once and for all. Though there were still many in the Heer who found the SS and its methods distasteful, few now questioned its military prowess and gallantry in action. Some Wehrmacht commanders were now glad to have troops of such a high caliber operating alongside them.

And as usual, the Leibstandarte was at the top. The most elite SS unit of all time.

But there were also other SS units whose records were less than impressive, or whose actions were more sinister. Hell, even some of those bad quality units were poorly motivated and easy to be beaten and flee in panic. Some were only good for committing atrocities and anti-partisam duties. Otherwise, meh.

So quality of Waffen-SS troops depend on what units they are in, with the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler being the best.

Among the Waffen-SS are the Einsatzgruppen – murder units devoted to committing atrocities, killing Jews, carrying out the bad sh*ts. And the SS-TV handled the concentration camps.

In the storygame, men of the Leibstandarte will be your allies when playing as the Wehrmacht in some scenes. You might find it unpleasant, but they are very capable soldiers.

Meanwhile, the other Waffen-SS units will act as antagonists while playing the Red Army parts.

The Einsatzgruppen will be the antagonist for both, good Wehrmacht guys and the Soviets. Because as a good Wehrmacht protagonist, you don’t want these guys to suddenly do evil shits and “HURR DURR LETS BE NAZIS” and make all the friendly communist-hating Soviet citizens into hostiles, thus increasing the risk of partisan activites.


#10

I could help since I studied WW2 in college specifically the Germans.


#11

It sounds really good I am a real history buff


#12

We’re not supposed to respond to long dead WiP’s, probably in order to not get people’s hopes up by seeing a beloved old thing shoot to the top of the boards again when there have been no new developments whatsoever.
Right @Havenstone @Sashira @FairyGodfeather time to work your magic.


#13

Please do not post in WiPs that have not been active recently. If the author would like this reopened, PM one of the moderators and we’ll be happy to.