So I guess my issue really lies with how we’re introduced to the world. It throws you in basically saying, “You’re a killer and you’ve been like that since you turned. Don’t worry about morality because you don’t care about that anymore.”
It’s nice that you get to be more complex later, but it feels like there is a significant lack of reaction to these things happening in the moment. Killed your parents? They were in the way. Killed the trucker? He would’ve seen you. Even in the VtM games you were able to be more moral than that, which is saying something.
Maybe I’ve read too much about the psychology of combat, but it feels entirely real to me that the characters would be acting rather than reacting during the parking lot scene. They’d be acting on pure adrenaline and instinct - and the instincts of a werewolf are largely those of a predator.
It’s also fair to point out that if you want to play a PC who places a high value on human life, you can at least try to save the trucker.
That was definitely not a choice I made. That just happened despite my choice. Unless you actively scare him off, BT kills him despite any attempt you make.
That was kind of what I was getting at. Even in the heat of battle, you would absolutely take note of that. You wouldn’t react right that second, as you have to get safe first, but the second you get in the van and drive away you have options to comment on what just happened, and being upset at his needless death was not an option. That’s literally all I’m saying.
It was your choice to go sneaking and such … there are other choices that do not lead to the trucker’s death.
You may not like, nor appreciate, the consequences of your choices, but the choices you made directly dictate if the trucker dies or not. That is factual, and verifiable by replaying and making the choices that save the trucker.
I dunno, I think if you tried to lecture Black Tarn while she was sitting there naked and dazed and Clay was literally falling apart right in front of you, Scarper would be justified for once in telling you to shut the fuck up.
And regardless of whether or not you would knowingly kill an innocent bystander, the issue here is that your (mentally unstable) elder is the one doing the killing here. You can try to stop them, mitigate the damage, redirect the innocent, but this isn’t new or shocking to the PC. We get the impression this is a not-uncommon occurrence for this pack, if an annoying inconvenience.
You can feel upset and disgusted by it in private, but if you relied on a family of serial killers for your survival, serial killers who could easily kill you as well, would you want to go around scolding them? You’ve got to survive, and this is the life the PC has known since their Change. It totally sucks, no denying that. Best bet is to get out of that situation so you can live closer to your principles.
You want to express your dislike of the consequences of your choices, that is great. You want to claim you have to ignore the morality of saving the trucker, that isn’t okay, because you can save the trucker’s life with different choices.
Please do not read into my posts things that are not there.
I saw that too, but she also said that she is slowly going mad. She made it sound like she wouldn’t have done that if she was in her right mind, so it doesn’t seem out of place for the MC to question what just happened. The pack seems like assholes, for sure, but based on what I’ve seen, that seemed abnormally cruel for them. I still have much to play though, so maybe this is just a murderhobo game.
Eiwynn, I’d really rather not get into another argument with you. You might not see it, but to me it looks like you’re being snippy and condescending. We were having a perfectly civil conversation before you came in and decided “that sounds like a you problem.”
@AletheiaKnights@Khipsky I’m sure things will smooth out as I get farther into the story, but I just felt I should point that out. That’s one of the primary way CoG authors ask for feedback anyways. Wanting there to be a choice that felt like it should have been there. I might get overruled, but I thought I should point it out. Anyways, I’m going to go before I get put into timeout, so thanks for talking Garou with me.
Gone through it like 20 times now. The Furries ARE gonna br available, right? Cause didnt see it anywhere in the demo. And couldnt attempt the glasswalker path. Since the option just wasnt there.
Is some stuff removed from betas, as to not spoil too much?
@AletheiaKnights it states there are only four chapters available in the demo.
also, are the portraits already out or is my device just buggy? i clicked on the option to enable portraits but i haven’t encountered a single one so far. they’re also not in the journal when i checked.
