United We Stand - Political WIP



So, does anyone know when the game was last updated? I’m not trying to be rude or anything, I just haven’t touched this game in a long time and wanted to know if its been updated since.


June 2017 according to the First post…


Ya, although back in March the author posted that this is still not dead, and inferred that he might have more time to work on it come this summer.


Hello all, apologies for not being in touch for so long. I have this weekend been working on the later stages of the game, jumping ever so slightly ahead, however, the endgame needs lots of planning!

Basically, there is a civil war scenario which will occur at some point after the election and I realised that for the player’s role in the war cabinet to be in any way meaningful, Moravia has to have some defined geography. Therefore I have produced this map of the country…

The black lines represent major railways, vital of course to war and supply, the thick blue line is the river Danube while the thinner two are the other major rivers in Moravia. The largest text denotes the 3 regions of the country.

Lower Moravia is fairly flat and made up mostly of open plains and arabal farmland other than Freistadt the capital.
Upper Moravia is more hilly and forested, home to a large lake and as well as mines containing coal and iron ore. Oberkampf is Moravia’s second city, and is a heavily industrialised town with none of the charm or culture of Freistadt, instead being a key mining centre.
Finally, Anhalten is the northerly region, with its own dialect and culture, quite distinct from the rest of Moravia. The regional capital Gern has approx 200,000 people and mainly small scale craft industries and textiles, while most of the populace of Anhalten is largely rural and mountainous, farming sheep and goats.

Moravia is home to approx 8 million people, broken down as follows:
Lower Moravia - 5 million, including 2.5 million in the capital Freistadt
Upper Moravia - 2 million, including 500,000 in Oberkampf and a further 500,000 in the surrounding mining communities
Anhalten - 1 million, including 200,000 in Gern

The war scenario will play out as follows:

  • Struggle for the capital - both competing factions will battle in the streets of Freistadt in the first days of war to win control of the vital city.

  • Race for Oberkampf - after the fate of the capital is decided, both sides will race to reinforce Oberkampf, where left-wing workers militias are holding out against a superior right-wing force.

  • The battle of Oberkampf - whoever gets there first has an advantage, but ultimately, the rapidly developing armies of both sides will do battle over the vital second city and its resources.

  • Siege of Freistadt - if the winner at Oberkampf is different to the initial winner in Freistadt, then the former will then use their superior resources to lay siege to the capital.

  • Pacification - Once one side holds both cities, the fate of the country is decided, all that remains is to clear the countryside, including rural Anhalten, of resistance.

The two factions will be the Popular Army, made up of Solidarity, SDP, Centre and moderate conservatives, and the National Army of National Bloc, Prince Georg and New Order. The support of Moravia’s regular army, the Civil Guard police force, and the Anhaltians will be variables determined by your actions, however the default is that General Falk will support the National Army while the Anhaltians will support the Popular Army, loosely. The Civil Guard will be in controlled by whoever won the election. At the close of the war, more radical players can then choose to trigger a civil war within the civil war by trying to crush their own allies and seize total power, e.g. Solidarity destroying the SDP and Centre to gain total control. This can of course backfire, and the result will be dependant on a number of factors.

This takes a lot of planning, especially in terms of what factors from the game so far effect outcomes in the war and what role certain decisions can have. I thought I’d share it with you as I’m sure fans of the project will be keen to know that hard work is continuing and will be interested to know more about Moravia and what the game has in store. :grin:


Looks really good! Quick question though, say the PC’s faction wins the battle for Freistadt but loses at Oberkampf, can they then win the siege of the capital, and the war?


Good question! Yes, if you lost Oberkampf, you can hold on in the siege of the capital, and the massive losses the enemy will have suffered trying to take Freistadt will hand the PC’s faction back the advantage. The Pacification stage will simply be longer and more bloody.


CIVIL WAR COMING?! Shitttt… Im about to be the biggest fascist in all the civil wars of the world history xD.


To victory, brother!


To Victory! United We Stand!


Is it possible that this pacification phase could become the worst part of this civil war and is it possible to ourselves end up on the other side of the pacification? (bad start losing the cities to the enemy but certain successful operations turn the scale and the population against the occupying force. So say enemy have heavy casualties taking the cities, we could take back the advantage using guerilla warfare). I’m also curious, is there any possibility that the civil war will affect the sequel? (Major hospitals destroyed = worst healthcare system, destroyed university = worst education system etc)


Pacification could certainly be long and bloody but I’m not sure about the player being able to come back from the pacification stage. My vision was that as it becomes clear that you are about to lose whichever city will make it 2 and therefore have lost the war, the PC will have the choice of going down fighting or fleeing the country. Equally, there are some interesting endings lined up for victory…

Hadn’t thought of this, certainly an interesting idea


I’m not sure how much of an effect it would have by the time of the sequel since the country is slated to get overrun and looted for the Nazi war economy, like pretty much half of Europe, including my own country.
More significant for the standard of living in the sequel would be if Moravia got in on the Marshall plan or not, I think.

Yeah, Moravia is a small country, best not over-complicate the civil war.


I’d assume that as long as we aren’t under Soviet military occupation or under Soviet influence we would be a part of the Marshall Plan. Or be like Tito and reject it first then ask for help later. But then again I’m not sure if the Western powers would extend the plan to a fascist country. Maybe they would use the promise of aid to help steer us towards a more moderate form of government?


Lol, the West supported several fascists regimes to keep the communist menace at bay.


The only European nation I recall them officially supporting after the war that was still fascist was Franco’s Spain and even then they weren’t officially part of the Marshall Plan. I know about the unofficial support but I think getting the people behind supporting a fascist nation as small as Moravia would be a bit more difficult.


In South America it was very popular.


But that was well into the Cold War and not a part of the Marshall Plan. They were also for the most part not officially supported by the US government. It was mostly unofficial support. There was also more of a reason to support strict anti-communists in South America seeing as how it was in America’s back yard. Other than Chile and arguably Argentina, fascism had little control in South America post WW2. It was mostly military juntas and dictatorships, with the occasional socialist or communist taking charge for a few years then losing power to another form of government.


Don’t forget Portugal (Salazar) and Greece (the Colonel’s regime)


Military dictatorship is a form of fascism.


Ah that’s right. Thank you for reminding me. Greece didn’t remain fascist for long after the war though right? I know they had a civil war with the communists and that the communists lost.

Not necessarily. It all boils down to ideology. A military junta or dictatorship doesn’t necessarily have to be fascist.