Yeah meant no disrespect to the people who like Nate/Nat as a romance option. I like him as a character, but I don’t find him attractive at all. Like he is probably going to be my choice as a bff, and I can understand why people might see him attractive physically, but I don’t think he shows affection the way I tend to like it (like Felix or Mason). I guess he is just kinda friendzoned in my mind, and I have a strong distaste for friendmances in media personally which I feel he tends to fall into that trope often. But to each their own 
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I love all my vampire boys! Everyone seems to have one they really like or really don’t like, and I can’t relate. My least favorite (I’m sorry F) is still a really fun route for me.
As for N, he’s the one I experience the story for the first time with. He’s the one I’m immediately drawn to. I think N and F aren’t mentioned much on the forum because there hasn’t been much drama/angst (yet!). I have a feeling that N is going to have some correlations with Stephen from the vampire diaries, and I’m hear for it
On an unrelated note, I find it interesting that Wayhaven is simultaneously one of the most popular and one of the most complained about story on the forum
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lol when you love, you also hate at the same time. that’s human nature.
They get invested.
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I’m not familiar with Stephen from vampire diaries, but my suspicion is he is the authors take on Angelus from Buffy. He used to be a serial killer who drank a lot of blood of innocent people before he was “corrected” by the agency and learned to be a good person. I have a feeling that he is going to have an interesting arc kinda like a addict who falls off the wagon at one point, possibly because of tainted/powered blood he ends up taking.
Angel from Buffy sucked, and the agency was so stupid.
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Agreed. I was always a Spine fan (big surprise there, lol).
Angel was insipid.
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Spike was fun, but my favorite was Drusilla. Vampires that is lol
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“I’m naming all the stars…”
I loved Drusilla, too, until I saw how she jerked Spike around and screwed around with Angel in his face.
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Yeah, so what? She was a Vampire…not Martha Nanny stewart. 
Ya know, that remind me of something?
How do you think the npc of wayhaven (The humans) would change if they were turned into Vampires?
You know like tina, verda, Bobbie.
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I would love to see that cleaning competition. I wonder if they would kick the rest of UB of because they make too much mess. 
You know what they say - chaos is for geniuses.
I could see it! If she actually got comfortable there, Dezh would be forbidding them all from wearing shoes into the house (“You are tracking in all kinds of germs and crap! Take them off at the door! I set out a boot tray for each of you!” N would wish he had insisted on it first to help keep things clean, lol!). And Mason would glare at her and wonder wtf he got himself into with her, lol (she’d make it up to him, of course).
I wouldn’t call Z a genius, but she is pretty smart. Jax, however, is a nitwit. 
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M and F never slept together. They flirted when F first joined but F shut it down before it went that far after they realized M was only interested in being physical.
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The things you hear in this thread, I swear…
It should be renamed! To the Gossip Chronicles! 
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Aw, you left out my favourite part: M’s the only one that treats the MC like an actual equal. For example, they’re the only one that can say that the MC should be the one to pick their training and the only one that after the first meeting in the warehouse don’t go “you are a fragile flower and I must protect you because you are unable to uwu”. Fucker, I was out of those restraints before you were there, punched not!Murphy in the face, and made him bleed out half his blood via femoral artery. I won that fight, not you. I don’t need you to protect me, I’d just be glad if you did your job*.
Unrelated: huh, I just ran into this ask:
*this last point applicable to every non-medical personnel of the Agency, but especially its security personnel, because it would have been bangers if I hadn’t been ambushed by two Trappers in the Agency’s goddamn parking lot. Maybe you assclowns should stop going “technology bad” and install some security cameras, just a thought.
Also, paper can totally be hacked. It’s what we call “reading”.
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Headcannon my main Amancer is dealing with so many feelings of unworthiness due to the way she’s been treated by Bobby and Rebecca that having the constant rejection from A just feels normal to her. (My most depressing playthrough, but oddly enough, the most successful one in dealing with both Murphy and the Ma-alused. Go figure.)
One of the reasons I always play a techie. The Agency needs tech desperately. Their “paper can’t be hacked” nonsense doesn’t hold water because people can. Getting past people is, in all reality, the only way to implement a hack of any kind whether it’s high or low tech. Also, I like to pick the “rebellious youth” line, though I don’t know what’s planned for it. I dearly hope there’s a hacking/scamming/con reveal coming up in a future book.
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Dammit, and that’s one of my favorite things about M, too, both in and out of the romance.
Yes! But doing their job isn’t something at which they excel…
And isn’t it hilarious that the one who actually stumbles upon you to help (even if you don’t need it) is freaking Elidor??
In addition to some security cameras, it might be nice if they provided the MC (and, you know, their agents) with some long-range weapons? And crowd control? Pummeling Trappers one at a time is cute and all, but a nice knockout grenade may be more useful when having to face an army of humans (or supes, for that matter).
You can’t convince me the damned Agency (who is all-powerful, with unlimited resources, both financial and scientific) can’t make something to disable a bunch of humans in one fell swoop. It removes the necessity of their Agents “holding back so they don’t hurt the evil twats” and almost getting themselves killed in the process. But then you couldn’t have scenes where enemies trip over limbs, rocks, their own feet, or invisible things that somehow trip them up…
That’s close to my M-mancer, who thinks her only use in the world is taking a bullet for people who are worth something, fighting, and sex (even though she’s only had sex with three people in her life, including Mason). She’s also used to dealing with things alone, and being the most capable one in the room, so having UB so overpowered is taking away the one thing she thought she was great at. She’s not depressed, but the whole thing with M is wearing on her, and after the bakery incident, no matter how affectionate M may behave, she will hang onto his declaration that he only wants her for sex.
I tried someone with A who was easily brought down and playing it just pissed me off. My A-mancer couldn’t give a damn about A’s mixed signals, at this point.
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Okay, now I’m picturing those invisible things the enemies trip over actually are some kind of Agency’s black ops squads that are secretly saving the asses of the agents.
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Now that would be hilarious. It would, at the very least, give a reason for the fight scenes that seem better fitted to a Three Stooges episode…
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That’s probably the biggest difference between the two of us there. My MC is already all the way down. To the point where if you gave her a shovel she’d start filling in the hole overtop of herself. She’s another that is used to having only herself to depend on, but looks at it as if her only real choice in a fight is to put herself against a brick wall so she can’t be hit from behind too.
Not that I’m calling A dense as a brick…
…it’s more like bedrock.
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See, I wish we could actually play our MCs that way, where they start to buckle under the hits from A and M, even if it’s something they try to hide. Instead of the overreactions to touches and looks from the LI, let there be some actual emotions from feeling unwanted in those routes. Some trauma from the hot/cold treatment and mixed signals.
But, then, I’ve come to the conclusion that Wayhaven isn’t about the MC at all. The MC is just a vehicle to tell the vampires’ stories, especially in A and M’s routes, and you get to make a few choices here and there that, overall, don’t really affect how quickly the story goes or how your MC actually feels about it (except for being able to be mad/upset/sad for five minutes before the text tells you that the MC is over it).
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