Doesn’t mean guy isn’t cozying up to Rhivenian nobles to start some crap. Also as someone who both had one mc order his dog to maul a writer’s arm to pieces or just beat the crap out of him in a second playthrough I have no room to judge on the throwing rocks at commoners statement lol (yeah I’m a hypocrite no surprises lmao but a sadistic playthrough is fun at times.)
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Do you to think that they are smart enough for that ?
Even then it’s stupid when we are going to face invasion. I hope i can punish those southerner kingdoms for supporting Erwan. Nice opportunity to increase size of Rhivenia.
They are petty not exactly smart and all of them are arrogant and feel insulted so no none of them are smart enough seeing as like you said they are starting this mess during an invasion. Perhaps we can form a Rhivenian Empire instead of all these useless Kings as vassals, take the fools down a notch if not wipe them out altogether.
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Please tell me yall three are rping as Atheris. Otherwise youre just making fun of poor and hungry people for being poor and hungry.
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I highly doubt anyone is actually telling the poor to go fuck themselves, just in a game context we are. The author is making it very hard to sympathise with the commoners when we have seen them primarily be unreasonable and bloodthirsty bastards.
Just because one supports something in fiction doesn’t mean he support these things in real life. Context is key, and all context we have in terms of the world of Rhivenia is that the peasants can go die in a fire for all the good they do.
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I understand the context of the convo. I also might be playing a different path or something because I 100% sympathize with them and havent seen them be bloodthirsty or bastards at all except for one scene which is understandable in the context.
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One scene where they’re bloodthirsty? What about in Marania or wherever the fuck Nicholas was, where that guy was torn apart in the torture pit and the people cheered like lunatics? What is understandable about that?
The common people in the world of Rhivenia are savages who should be put down, honestly. North, South, doesn’t matter. All of them are idiotic membranes of human consiousness.
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Those werent your people which are who the other people were talking about.
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Alright, then our people just throwing stones at us, the monarch? Justified or not, doesn’t matter in the slightest. Nor is it understandable, mainly because it is unreasonable.
From what I understand of the time, thievery loses you an arm like in ancient Babylon. That means that harming your ruler will have extreme consequences in this time - most likely execution. What fucking idiot decides to get one meaningless hit in at the risk of being decapitated? All for what? Because some prick he doesn’t know may be a better ruler than us, another unknown prick?
This is why I couldn’t care less for the smallfolk in this game - why should I protect them when they wish to kill me?
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What he said I ain’t suddenly advocating for actual screw poor people campaigns more along the lines of saying the author hasn’t exactly endeared us to the commoners of Rhivenia or any of the Kingdoms if I’m being truly honest.
In fact the Rhivenians turn on our dear foolish brother so quickly after no doubt years of cultivating that loyalty when we sabotage him so it ain’t a shock they are as fickle when they don’t get what they want. Adding in that even hitting a Prince with a rock is no doubt punishable by Death in this time period so yeah they just have either no intelligence or respect for authority figures like royals when they feel slighted. Guess how high both chances are in my opinion lol
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Yep. All I see is Sword choice disrespected, consistently.
There was a little girl in a scene once, the only one defending the youngest MC. The rest. Not so much caring.
Im having issues with the citizenship.
Perhaps reason father won; is because Sword benefit does have more than just history book shaped Sword elements.
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The fact that the commoners can’t even follow the main rule in regards to the Sword being the be all end all choice on succession all because they have a favorite who is buying their loyalty and said fools are too gullible to figure it out is just sad.
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How dare the poor and hungry commoners love someone who gives them food and blankets in their time of struggle over some unknown kid whose only accomplishment is being chosen by a sword? If the commoners don’t immediately understand the political complexities behind the top 0.0001% of society and instead just appreciate what helps them survive from day-to-day, that means they’re stupid and undeserving of sympathy.
Not only are the commoners not a monolith (Jarean, for example, sees right through Richard’s bullshit), but this is a historical era where the lower classes are largely illiterate and barely eking out a subsistence standard of living. We are part of the feudal aristocracy, a historical class notorious for exploiting the commoners to fund their own lavish lifestyles and pointless wars. Victim blaming an oppressed underclass without the time or resources to educate themselves, while we’re the top 0.0001% of society benefiting from their exploitation, is kind of messed up.
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It’s not messed up, it’s understandable.
From a reader’s pov, it’s extremely hard to sympathize with the commoners since they have shown themselves to be an enemy against the MC for whatever reason.
Yeah, they may well be illiterate, but at this point they would be well aware of the Sword and the impact of its choice, wouldn’t they? The Sword in Rhivenia is like what the Pope was in medieval Europe - a way to legitimize your claim. Everyone knew it, most if not everyone believed in it.
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So you throw stones on them ?
Who is little brother of that person and memeber of family who gave you that thing?
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I’d say it depends on the reader. A compassionate player might believe that the commoners have been suffering for a long time and are not savvy to the workings of the Royal Court because of how secluded the Royal Family is, so they should be forgiven for being swayed by Richard’s aid against the MC. They might recognize that the commoners don’t owe you immediate love and loyalty because you got chosen by a sword: you have to earn that with your actions, and the MC has so far done less to help the common people than Richard. Yes, Richard is only doing it for his political gain, but how are most people supposed to know that? A compassionate MC might forgive them for being easily manipulated by Richard, who’s the one stirring up discontent in the first place, and resolve to win their loyalty through kindness rather than thinking of them as idiots who deserve to suffer.
Rhivenian society has a stigma against the youngest sibling ascending the throne, and from the perspective of the average illiterate peasant, the good prince Richard who saved hundreds of their lives in their moment of dire need was “cheated” from the throne by their unknown youngest sibling who is the child of baby-killer Alvena. Doesn’t make what they did right, but they’re not doing it because they’re cruel idiots.
The Sword of Rhivenia doesn’t feed people or protect them from the cold. You’ve done nothing to help the commons while Richard has, so it’s understandable that they would love Richard over you and believe he should have been King instead of you. If they’re manipulated by Richard into attacking you, blame Richard for callously taking advantage of their affection, not the starving uneducated peasants who are just trying to survive and are happy for any kind of assistance.
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Then they will go crying after mc does something about them. Even childern have better common sense that it’s sword who chose mc he didn’t cheated for it and it’s treason to attack on their king which can cost them their life.
I have no compassion left for them. They deserved Charles. They really don’t deserve competant king mc. Though competant mc would poison their food and they support mc and throws stone on richard.
Nah i would blame MCs who let it happen and doesn’t taint their food. Manipulation and cheating is only thing richard and these people deserves.
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I think you are confusing compassionate for someone who’s naive and just asking for these ingrates to overthrow you over some perceived insult when they get uppity. Only smart peasant is Jarean in my opinion. And yes Richard is scum for manipulating them so thoroughly but there’s an issue that as soon as he is implicated without any real proof but the Court of Mob Mentality in poisoning them they decide to go “Let’s throw rocks at him and also risk hitting our new ruler in the process.” type crap.
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Rock throwing seems to be a thing regardless?
I didnt poison. I thought of the citizenship first and foremost.
My opinions on citizenship are set from the old writing and whats in the new one, thus far. Only a child and a tavern boy remotely cares. While everyone else is about elder brother or sister instead.
Im still “give it to him” instead type yet.
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By citizenship I’m assuming you mean the commoners? By medieval times which this IF is based on the term citizen and citizenship wasn’t used and people of this status were purely subjects of whatever monarch. (From what I looked up at any rate.) So commoner peasant or subjects were the more typical terms to use.
Also as far as I recall yeah rock throwing happens regardless lol