Well he did bring peace it’s an achievement
By murdering him? That’s not, uh, that’s not a good decision.
He definitely didn’t do that. Evidence: behold, a fucking war. Also, absolutely alienating a vassal realm.
Being a father to ONE OF YOUR FOUR KIDS isn’t a good decision, it’s the deadbeatest of dads.
Richard is terrible. He’s a spoiled brat that gets angry whenever something doesn’t go his way. He interacted with a single one of his four kids, and his influence was the absolute worst. The effect his approval had on Richard was a negative.
AGAIN, we have a fucking war at our doorstep because of what he did. He did not bring peace, he literally caused a war with a neighbouring kingdom.
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Bruh I thought the game came out… unfortunately it’s just a few guys debating
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I hate Charles but this is the one thing I’m willing to give the dude credit for. He was a terrible king and person but he did one commendable thing in his twenty year reign at least.
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THE PEOPLE
At the end of his reign his citizens did not suffer under his rule, throughout the chapters I have seen in the demo so far, there was not a single citizen who despised him or was planning mobs or a revolution to overthrow him, you can say he was bad but to the people he was a symbol, Kings like this are monsters who can happily walk through the kingdom with pride without a tomato being thrown at them because in the end the people don’t care about King Charles atrocities they only care about the results if is positive or negative for they well being and as you can see he succeeded, insults may be thrown his way but deep within the hearts of the people they can not refute the one truth which is there lives which was governed by a King who killed his brothers and vassal in order to make his Kingdom flourish into prosperity, King Charles had every opportunity to slack off but he was doing paperwork not for his own sake but the subjects he promised to protect, you can say the sword chosed wrong but the people will disagree
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Hmmm… I agree with your point.
So it is like " the end justify the means " , where the Kingdom thrive and strong with reliable allies. Although the means of his reign may not the cup of tea for everyone.
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No, they can’t. We know they can’t because when the MC goes to town they have to go incognito so nobody will target them to hurt them. We know this. Also, the man got assassinated.
I’m sorry, are these the reliable allies who were plotting treason, or the reliable allies who are actually at war with us? Inquiring minds want to know.
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As the youngest of four kids I can with conviction that you’re very wrong on this point, he could be much worse. The war is also being fought on lies and the whim of manipulative mother who is upset that her husband didn’t become king, I fail to see how that’s his fault. Your opinion on Richard is flawed since he only acts like that if you’re his rival, by the end of the book…wait idk if you’re on patreon nvm that.
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Tell me what the lie is about the king never showing any bit of affection to any of three of his kids.
That just proves my point. If Richard is only cool with you provided you don’t stand up to him, then he is in fact a spoiled brat that’s only nice when things go his way and people do what he wants. The moment someone doesn’t enable him, he immediately turns on you*. As a counter-example, if you beat Atheris to the crown, she’s momentarily shocked that it wasn’t her winning it, but immediately shifts to “good on you, sibling”.
*you’re not alone in this. Failing to realise this was exactly why people got completely and utterly shocked when Daenerys in GoT decided to burn everything to a crisp, when in fact “burn everything to a crisp” was her go-to response when people didn’t immediately drop to their knees and told her how great she was. Of course, Daenerys has the excuse that she’s inbred like all get-out and therefore crazy as fuck. Richard’s just true to his nickname.
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Um his skills as a parent has nothing to do with this war, I am not sure how that applies to our uncle trying to kill us because his mother said that’s what he should do. These things don’t relate to each other.
Firstly let me just say that Richard is one of the best written characters in this book. Now lets look at a few things, his mother puts loads of pressure(she literally tries to plant the seeds of war in his head if anyone is bad influence on him its her) on him trying to make him get on throne. He puts pressure on himself as a result to impress his father, so of course the kid gets upset when things don’t go his way especially since he is prince and the eldest son. Also lets not behave like he wasn’t given the shitty end of the stick being forced to marry someone he doesn’t love or know, and in some cases watch his younger brother literally steal his crush from underneath him. The MC is no saint.
On a lighter note we don’t speak about the last season of GoT.
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This is utterly meaningless. Rhivenia succession isn’t based on eldest child. It never was. Richard doesn’t have any special claim to the throne. The one thing that’s rare is the youngest child being the heir (it has only happened once before), but every other option is a definite possibility up for grabs.
That’s because the king is a bad father. He’s also a bad king, because he tries to cheat on the succession protocol by personally training Richard.
Because he’s a spoiled brat.
Congratulations, you’re part of the royal family and your marriage is going to be used to make political alliances*. If this is “the shitty end of the stick”, then EVERY ROYAL CHILD has always been given the “shitty end of the stick”.
I’d screenshot my stats screen to prove you otherwise, but unfortunately my laptop fried since I played and dash saves are apparently local, so all my saves are gone (shit, A Mage Reborn is a long-ass game, rebuilding those saves is gonna take me forever).
*unless you’re like Henry VIII, in which case you tell the Pope to fuck off and die and marry who you want and then you marry who you want and then you marry who you want and etc.
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Actually King Charles can but he put too much points into boldness and strength instead of stealth and mobility to blend in, King Charles was a warrior king he had to show the people why he is king and from the way he lived so far as we have seen the king is basically a workaholic, he didn’t have the luxury to mess around to have fun in the public and yes he got assassinated but being stab in the back is basically second nature to leaders because they know the risks
There is an IMMENSE amount of kings that did not, in fact, get assassinated, and they lived a lot more dangerous lives than Charles does.
No its not the eldest child gets chosen 90% of the time or did we read two different books. He had ONE training session with him lets not go in the realm of head canon now. I also like how you completely ignore his side of things just saying the guy is spoiled and leaving it at that. The difference between the MC’s political marriage and Richards is that the MC didn’t spend most of their life living with the person they love, If you don’t romance Clara at the end of the book she confesses to him and right after his future wife shows up. Sorry but that’s worse than the MC’s situation by far especially since you can yk turn down the marriage. As for your stats that’s fine and all but my point stands since you have players who actively go out their way to hurt Richard.
All I got from this was that you don’t like Richard or Charles and that’s fine, I am just saying you should look at the story within the story in order to understand the characters. If Richard’s mother wasn’t so damn forceful about him being the best and settled with being Charles favorite then things would have been different. She openly threatens us at the end for no reason other than the fact that Richard wasn’t chosen. Remind you of anyone? As for Charles if the MC’s mother hadn’t murdered his child then he wouldn’t have any reason to hate the MC and their sisters. Is that a good reason, yes and no. But I can understand these character’s stance.
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My friend first of all being a King is dangerous on its own and assassination attempts are common amongst leaders for the sole purpose of disrupting order, all assassins don’t give a damm what they objective is and only when order is destroyed are they satisfied or another opportunity come again for their benefits
Well Charles loves his kids as evidence he stroke the mc went they fell of the horse, or went they went out hunting, he may hates the mc mom and tries to play favourite but that doesn’t neccesarily mean he hates mc and his sisters.
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And he still shouldn’t have done that, because, again, that’s trying to cheat the succession protocol.
I’m not even talking about the MC’s political marriage, I’m talking about literally every royal child’s political marriage, real world included.
NOW who’s headcanoning?
As opposed to the MC’s mother, who’s totally relaxed and cool about everything, you mean?
“Richard’s mother is a shitty person” does not, in fact, invalidate the fact that his father also was.
He still doesn’t, because the kids have done literally nothing wrong.
I also understand their stance, it’s just that their stance is bad, they’re bad, and they should feel bad.
What’s dangerous is being a peasant in a kingdom ruled by a war-provoking king, because medieval wars get a metric ton of peasants killed, one way or another.
They are definitely not. Again, waves in the direction of all the kings that did not get assassinated.
The man will literally tell you he never loved you if you ask. They’re literally his last words to the MC.
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I forgot about these instances, but yes you’re right he has shown affection towards the MC and sisters. But while he might not hate the MC he openly admitted to not loving them I am afraid.
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Richard is a spoiled brat who can’t take “no” for an answer. Look at Clara! Girl can’t make a decision for herself on who she wants to date cause if she does that Richard will start a WAR. Just because he doesn’t accept being told no.
Even if you’re the nicest MC in the world to him he will still do it, because he doesn’t care.
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I don’t have played the patron demo, but it is my understanding that you can sell Richard for a political marriage, and that make him upset.
Well it would be nice to remind him, that Richard disagree with his father choice to kill Francis, because he (Charles) could have sell him (Francis), and force him to make a political marriage.
A bit hypocrital for Richard…
Sorry for my bad English.
P. S. Aetheris is easily the best siblings
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