While I do get the complaints and how it seems unreasonably unfair. I do think it is worth it to think about a few things here. Firstly I believe Richard’s mother because of her status as the favored wife used her influence to spread messages and hopes that Richard would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Second, while Charles may have been a normal king and a bad father from our perspective, what is important to realize his reputation comes from the fact he is a kinslayer. He is believed to have killed his brother by the common people and as such likely is viewed very poorly, furthermore the financial state of the realm is in shambles when we inherent the kingdom and even if the war had been going for a couple months it doesn’t explain the massive upheaval of the economy. So obviously something was going wrong there on Charles’ part.
Lena would be an absolute idiot with no understanding of any sort of political maneuvering if she indeed married the MC only to then absolutely trash everything about him. The only sensible political move on her part after marriage would be to fully commit herself to your success because she has put herself into that position with a marriage between you and her, if you fail she fails.
Even if she did, it doesn’t change the fact that everyone, including the royal family, seems to not EVER appreciate what you do. Marry Lena? Who cares. Good speech? Who cares. Kill Matteo? Who cares. You were ambushed in an assassination attempt in your own property? Everyone thinks you’re a loser because you didn’t risk getting assassinated so you could hunt a deer.
The MC is disrespected so much it’s outright comical. Literally the only people who seem to not hate everything he does are his mother, his bartender and Lord Daemir “0 Charisma” of House Everan.
Yeah well we know how logical people are when it comes to MC.
True, I suppose I am in part trying to justify the actions taken. I prefer to think that some kind of mischief is happening behind the scenes without us knowing to explain it. IDK hopefully they will act more…“realistically”? in the second book and show that while they may be more emotionally inclined it doesn’t control them.
Do you know that it would be interesting to explore if the MC king or queen had a monogamous marriage with someone of the same sex? Power struggles as there is no clear heir. That succeeded in Spain with Carlos II “El hechizado” as he did not have children and due to internal and foreign pressures, he wrote a will to designate his successor. The only flaw in that plan was not having given said heir a power base and support that would give him legitimacy as a Successor, which a gay or lesbian king or queen MC must anticipate if they wants an exclusive relationship with his preferred RO.
Or also that a son of each noble house who volunteers, prepare as best as possible to know if the sword chooses one of these volunteer ariatocrats as the successor King/Queen of the MC. An event never seen before in the world of Rhivenia but one that would definitely have to be managed carefully as the MC’s Lifespan runs out.
Irrelevant. Succession is made via Sword, and adopted royal children are viable candidates. All the couple would have to do is adopt like 5 kids and the matter would be settled.
I can’t remember if I let Leia play on the throne, sit on it or have her observe it but yeah I assumed adopted or bloodline children all have the same opportunity.
Either adopted kids have the same chance or we’ve been misled, because if you’re the chosen and adopt Leia, there’s a passage where you wonder if she’ll be the one to sit on it one day.
Well, I don’t think a miserable intelligent beggar is the same as someone with political connections. The issue of succession remains relevant due to the power struggle or lack of a clear succession system in any situation.
Or do they want civil wars after they die as a monarch? (Because then we failed in the oath we took with the sword to protect the integrity of our kingdom after the war of the three brothers. And what about the military class? They would enter the dispute along with other social sectors, oh and the This can get worse if other nations, both allies and enemies, get involved.
But there IS no lack of clear succession. Succession is determined by whoever the Sword glows the right colour for. Unless the Sword doesn’t glow right for ANYONE when the time comes, the line of succession is clear.
A gay monogamous couple with 5 adopted kids is functionally indistinguishable from any other kind of royal relationship with 5 biological kids.
And don’t you think that an illegitimate son of an irrelevant ancestry for many members of the aristocracy that the MC heads would be offended to be treated the same way as any subject in what many of them perceive as their miserable lives?
Unless these children of a gay couple are of true ariatocratic descent, if they don’t, they will come as our cousin to want to claim titles within the monarchy.
Again, this is irrelevant. You’re using real-world system of succession to shape your ideas of what would happen in Rhivenia, but that’s just not how it works. The system of succession is Sword Says. For legitimate succession, nothing else matters. It’s Sword Says. If, as it’s been hinted at, the Sword considers adopted kids as viable as biological ones, then there’s no reason for anyone to think adopted kids aren’t as viable a successor as biological ones by virtue of being adopted. It wouldn’t even cross their minds. It’s irrelevant. The Rhivenian succession has always been Sword Says. If Sword Says adopted kid, then the clear and legitimate succession line is adopted kid.
Can you still have wars over it? Sure. But the successor being an adopted kid is not a factor in considering whether to challenge the Sword’s decision. It’s no more likely to happen with adopted kid than with biological kid.
Looking at it that way, I have to admit you’re right. I apologizes for the inconvenience. Thank you for making me understand the world of Rhivenia better and have a nice day.
Of course, there’s ANOTHER option: that the Sword is bullshit. We have no indication or suggestion that this is the case, and it’s almost assuredly not, but it’s not ENTIRELY out of the realm of possibility as of Book 1 that this is a Man Behind the Curtain Situation, i.e., that the Sword picks who it picks because there’s someone making it glow right for the person they want. In which case, getting the Sword to pick someone specific is just like kings in the real world being the chosen of god - just threaten or bribe the pope. In this situation, you’d have to find out who the pope is, or even if there is a pope - of course, suggesting that there is a pope in Rhivenia might be actual blasphemy and will probably get you hanged or burned at the stake or something.
(there’s a distinct possibility that I may, in fact, be an incredibly suspicious bastard)
This idea is something I’ve thought about. It may have already been mentioned as I had to skip through a lot to catch back up but it was always interesting to me that atheris could be chosen.
I’ve never put any weight behind the idea as I’m pretty sure it’s for the players sake to choose who they want on the throne but it is odd to me that atheris can be chosen because your choices shouldn’t have any barring on richards qualification. It’s almost as if the sword picks based on the MC’s preferences.
Again I’m pretty sure it’s just done for the players sake and doesn’t mean anything in the story but it is food for thought
our father kill her father and torture her brother for years.It’s normally that she is very angry with us and want to mock us.and she resent our father,so she will dislike MC when MC act like Chales ,but deeply she have good heart and try to make us better than our father (If you romance with her,you will understand her) .Just she don’t understand how cruel and blood-thirsty standard Rhivernian people are. She come from Arinea where better place than Rhivernia.
nods I had the same thought, sort of like the sword in the stone. Maybe pick the person who put the sword in the stone in the first place, rather than their patsy.
I love the Rodney Dangerfield allusion.
And yeah, I’m hoping my adopted kid Leia is better than my siblings in that regard.
I mean if you let her sit on the throne, she doesn’t like how it feels…which means to me she is even smarter than the player. I mean, if I’m monarch, and I hate how it feels, then first order of business…well, once the invasion is dealt with, get a new damn throne.
Or if it has to be uncomfortable, then at least make it say something political…say fashion it out of the skulls of our fallen enemies.
Since the Sword can give us previous ruler memories, maybe it’s also choose an heir based on these memories? Maybe this decision can be even affected by previous “wielder” persona. Just shoot in the dark, anyway.
Or maybe it’s trying to send a message, like showing scenes of the past to try to show where shit hit the fan for the last ruler if the sword was present in a attempt to communicate of what you shouldn’t do, or it just shows the coronation of the last ruler
But yeah can’t discard the possibility of depending who gets becomes heir shall get different visions that attempt to guide them
