Lurian and his father died when Eraven was 21. Eraven had Neraven about a year after he was crowned and married Alapharen.
Lurian was in his mid-twenties when he died. An absolute tragedy.
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Agreed that it was a tragedy @Fawkes. Lurian certainly sounds like a better person than Eraven from whatās been shared. He definitely would have been a good uncle!
Which of Neravenās potential wives treats the Heirsona better?
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Thatās just me operating under the guess that if someone who knows Eraven (and formerly knew Lurian) looks at Vulcan at some point, sees a good deal of his uncle, and goes āYouāre so much like himā, theyāre going to clarify they mean his uncle. Especially when Vulcan makes a expression like heās singlehandedly ate Ophaesia whole lemon supply, because he thinks for a moment that theyāre talking about Eraven. 
Feel like Vulcan would want to name his son after hearing about the kind of man his Uncle was (and especially if he somehow manage to discover what his grandfather from the Dahlas side had been like).
Think the anime pic about the guy with the butterfly is a good deal older than Akatsuki No Yona.
Eravenās expressions will likely be particularly fun.
Hard to say either way, since we have yet to meet either of them.
Vulcan would not bother going after her actively either. Itās more if she goes out of her way to be a dick to him, heās going to bite back pretty quick.
Yeah, I do poke a bit at Terri about the fact heās seems a good deal more hesitant with his attraction to Senetha than he is of Jasi. But Ophaesia doesnāt sound a open-minded place in regards to such relationships and, unlike the 7th Heir, heās not in a position that offers much leniency to pursue some of his heartās desire without getting a good deal of possible scrutiny in the process.
Like I mentioned, that is factor of the argument Iām OK with leaving as a mystery. 
more want to know what it was that destroyed their friendship and made Eraven just as bitter and petty toward the Seventh Heir.
And Lurian managed to be like that DESPITE his own experience with the father he with Eraven.
I think I remember an ask where it was mentioned that Lurian would have been absolutely against Eravenās behavior toward the Seventh Heir and would have done something about it.
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The decision-making surrounding their wedding is baffling to me, to the extent I have to assume thereās some earth-shattering secret being kept. Historically, āunconsummatedā marriages could be annulled, but even assuming that was the case in Ophaesia tooā¦ Who would know? If they got married and didnāt consummate? Since they were friends before and werenāt (to our knowledge) romantically attached, especially given Eraven was recently widowed, it would probably have been awkward af even without them hating each other. And Eraven already had six children. Itās not like he needed an heir off Ysonia, nor she off him.
In some way, it must have been in someoneās interest for them to have sex. I just canāt for the life of me figure out who, since everyone we know suffered terribly for the decision.
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Maybe her family arranged it? A Prince or Princess with Maeliah blood would be nice for their ambitions.
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In that case, what were they holding over her? They had to be able to threaten her with something to get her to comply, or else make promises.
@Fawkes Whatās the Maeliah family style, more for bribes or extortion to get their way? Their snake reputation would seem to suggest extortion, but that could just be a stereotype.
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Not sure what they could have over her.
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And yet, in the end, a child ends up suffering for these intentions (whether they be good or bad), and is left to mostly fend for themselves against a matter that they are a innocent of. All while cleaning fragments of the mess both parents left behind.
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Sorry for the late reply but iām so happy that you guys like my moodboards. Thank you so much for your thoughts on them ! they took me like 4 days to finish i just really want some appreciations
Itās okay! Ama is bad at hugging too (she already got Atheron for that), they can bond over giving awkward hug, not being able to sing and desire to become queen! (tho Ama canāt play any instruments either so sheād be honored to hear Lilith plays).
Mathias is very pleased to be underestimated, heās already pretty formidable when heās lazy imagine how heād be when he get serious. Considering i plan for Mathiasās chararcter development is to get off his lazy ass and becoming Neravenās advisor, Ophaesiaās definitely in good hands and their enemies better watch out (heād probably still demand Neraven to have more nap times with his spouse tho lol)
He probably wouldnāt mind that But yeah, coffee most likely run through his veins instead of blood at this point. I feel like Raziel is a much more unheathy version of Lilith which is why heād worry sick about her bc the last thing he wants is for someone to end up like him. This meme summarize him pretty well
To be fair heās pretty good at songwriting and can come up with some good lines, too bad that doesnāt apply to poetry lol. I think Orpheusās board is the hardest to make, i spent like 2 hours to find the right aesthetics so iām glad it turns out well.
Thatās exactly the feels i aim for her board! She is a very warm and gentle person that i think itās perfect for Nethica to be vulnerable around her.
He maybe a manipulative schemer but he definitely got standards and would never go against it. With that said, he usually acts so damn unpredictable no one would believe him lol
Orpheus: Of course i would never kill anyone. Itās against my moral compass;)
Everyone whoād been near him more than 5 seconds: Your moral compass is a fucking roulette wheel.
I can just imagine she offer some candies to Neraven to cheer him up, not knowing he has low tolerance for spicy food lmao
Neraven: Dorothy, why is the candy spicy ?
Dorothy: Because itās fun ?
Thank you! My favorite is definitely Ashrielās as well, hers is just so pleasing to look at.
Who knows i plan for her to be a renowned writer so this might actually happen lol.
Well, obviously thatād be Neraven, she has no qualms against him and believe he could be good king. But like i said, she feels like that isnāt enough, everyone around her alway judge her by her mother and gender instead of her own merits so she has to prove herself, and what better way to do that than becoming queen and rule better than Eraven ever was.
Mathias doesnāt admit this but he always take an instant liking for anyone his height or shorter, it makes him feel less of a manlet lol. But that aside, i think Vulcan and Mathias would get along quite well, they both very laid-back, couldnāt care less about rumors and are both drawn to mysteries and the unknowns. If they team up, no secrets in Ophaesia would be safe from them.
Itās a bit more complicated than that. Orpheus, believe it or not, is very much a family guy at heart which explain his blind faith in Ysonia and how he has no problem reconnecting with Bae and Terri, heād gladly form a bond with any of his siblings as well as long as they arenāt actively go agaisnt him coughKeralithcough, yes he definitely is willing to use them but would never put them in true harm ways and heād absolutely try to make up to them once all is said and done.
His ambition to become king actually first came from how Eraven treated Ysonia and he wanted revenge, but in time heād realize thatās incredibly selfish and start to use his goal for the people instead. As for Eraven, Orpheus hates him of course but after finding more about what happen to him, he would actually feel sorry for him surpricingly enough, perhaps even sympathetic because he realize he couldāve turned out like Eraven on his way to be king if it werenāt for his friends and loved ones.
Oh definitely theyād totally be besties but Ashriel is very clumsy and canāt lie to save her life so Vulcan probably wouldnāt want to invite her to his secret misadventures lol.
@Okami-Nora if you donāt mind i would love to draw Vulcan and my heirsonas together someday.
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But what? And why? How is getting married the right thing? The common narrative is that Ysonia married out of ambition and to further the political goals of House Maeliah, and that she seduced or tricked Eraven into it, in the way that aristocratic women have (or were reputed to) historically. If we accept that this narrative isnāt the full truthā¦ weāre still stuck on Eravenās motivation. Okay, he didnāt hate Ysonia before he married her, we know that. But thereās a lot of middle ground between hating someone and marrying them. I just want to understand what he was thinking and what his motivation was, both for the wedding and for the wedding night, which are two separate things.
What did Eraven expect to gain from marrying Ysonia? Not an heir, since he had six children. Not a step-mother, since Ysonia isnāt much older than the oldest of his kids and besides, theyāre royalty and they have nannies and so on. My current suspicion is either some kind of obscure deal with the Maeliah, or it was Alapharenās dying wish. And the latter only raises more questions. Something is afoot, and my foreshadowing sense is tingling.
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this one?
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He would have kicked daddy out of the country.
was reading the tumblr yesterday.
@Fawkes stupid question: Was eraven there during the birth?
Also, before marriage what was eravenās opnion regarding ysoniaās possible involvement n alapharenās death?
Not at all? Its wasnt really that rare, in this kind of society, for nobles to use their children as pawns in their games. From what i gathered her family is pretty influencial, so when number 2 died they saw an opportunity ( one they might created themselves), so they married one of their own to the throne. Dont if ysonia had any singles sisters back then, but she was the perfect candidate, not only she only she was a beautiful young and fertile maiden, she was also close to the target. Just look at the the marriage eraven arrenged for Ilithys, its business: a daughter in exchange for peace and trade ( that was probably his reasoning).
what i wonder is why eraven accepted the proposal.
I kinda of agree with you and enjoy the implications of what you are saying. But still think there would be a person or several plotting behind their their backs, even if they did nothing more than set the ball rolling.
The thing is , Mc wanst even supposed to exist, they just had a stroke of bad luck
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I feel like thereās gotta be a personal component to it, just by virtue of it being an incredibly impractical decision to make on a political level.
Like people above have said, Eraven certainly isnāt lacking for heirs, and Ysonia was probably one of the most eligible unmarried women at the time-Great House, favorite lady in waiting to the Queen, etc etc. She could easily marry into any House with an unmarried heir with the kind of wealth and influence she wielded.
If the Maeliahs wanted one of their own to be Queen (and itās clear they definitely did), the much more obvious solution is to have set up something with Neraven and Ysonia, either through politics or Ysonia āseducingā (in quotes bc she doesnāt exactly seem like some seductress, so I have my doubts she did this) Neraven later on, who was only three years younger then her. Or at least, emotionally manipulating him so heād marry her later lol.
She could have married him, and her children-who the Maeliah viewed as theirs, as seen with the MC-would have been first in line for the throne, not seventh. A Maeliah on the throne in their eyes, not merely through marriage but through right.
And if Eraven was merely concerned about peace with the Maeliahs, and had no desire to marry Ysonia, I cannot believe he wouldnāt suggest that very thing. Heās not as clever as Ysonia, maybe, but heās not dumb, and obviously using your children to arrange political matches is the status quo.
The fact that this didnāt happen- and the fact they got married so quickly after Alapharens death-implies it was a decision made without a lot of thought for political ramifications (or just a lack of thought in general-grief is irrational). I donāt know what they were thinking, but I donāt think it was about the greater good of their houses.
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Reading through old comments on this thread again (donāt judge me 
) , and came across this little tidbit.
Gee, thanks dad. Iām feeling the love.
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Orā¦ just offer? Like you said, heās only a few years younger than her. She was seventeen years old when she married, right? If theyād waited two, maybe three years they could have more or less guaranteed a Maeliah heir on the throne. With much less trouble than Ysonia and Eravenās marriage caused. They had to know what the optics looked like. If anything, they weakened their hold on the throne, because Ysonia is a pariah now and so is her vaunted Maeliah heir.
I think thereās another factor we donāt know about. Sure, they were both grieving, but itās not like they eloped to Vegas. People were involved in the decision. Did anyone try to talk Eraven out of it?
I haveā¦ so many questions.
Edit: Ophaesia DLC is just the ability for the heirsona to travel back in time and prevent their own conception by grabbing Eraven before the wedding, slapping him across the face and yelling āsnap out of it!ā
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@Fawkes Iām curious as to which of the families will be the angriest about the eloping.
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Iād pay good money for that DLC
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Heirsona forgot to give something to Eraven on Fatherās day once and ever since heās hated us. Darn it, I knew I shouldāve given him a card at least.
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oh dang this sounds like itāll make more than titanic
hell, @fawkes, you could probably release individual 99 cent dlc for each time the mc gets to kick eraven in the groin and make more money than most small countriesā GDPs :'D
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Iām curious as to why Eraven is such an unmitigated bastard?
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So while I cannot draw, I would say that I am fairly good at writing poetry. Thus, I would like to share a little poem written by Rhyaena.
I headcanon her writing this at around age 13. (She likely has not had much exposure to commoners up until then, and still romanticizes peasant life in the countryside.) Here, the princess privately expresses her frustrations with court life and being hated for who she is, wishing to simply fly away.
As fowl fare for warmer winds,
UntamĆØd and free.
A sullen heart yearns to follow them,
Across vast skies and seas.
The heavens as my pilgrimās road,
Autumn stars as my guide.
Nought delays my lightened soul,
From dusk until dawnās rise.
Beyond the palace walls I flee,
Afar from the capital,
Morning dew and plains of green,
I roost in verdant vale.
To worry of nought but home and hearth,
Of weaving and harvest time.
To dance with village boys in mirth,
Drunken on sweet wines.
Afar from cold halls desolate,
To possess neither jewels nor gold,
There Iāll know Napheniaās gift,
And shanāt ever be alone.
Alas within these chambers drear,
I paint my brow with a sigh.
Silk sleeves stain with bitter tears,
As countenance veils from sight.
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