The Seven Heirs of Ophaesia: Part One (WIP)

I’m sure we can kill at least some of them.

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Jasi will just have to deal with the fact that my prince is more beautiful than even her. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Created a new primary Prince MC.

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I have been very busy working on Seven Heirs today! In the past two days, I’ve added around 3k words to chapter two, in addition to some behind-the-scenes work (wiki articles, outlining, etc etc), all while fighting a migraine. I think I’m finally figuring out the best way for me to write, and it is speeding up my writing (at least, it is at the moment). I work tomorrow, and I’m always able to get a lot of writing and planning done then (I pet-/house-sit for ~8 hours a day, and there’s a lot of downtime).

Once I’m done with the scene I’m currently working on (your first meeting with Olarion), I will probably seek out alpha testers. I have no idea how I’m going pick them – maybe have a Google Docs form where those who are interested apply? If I do some sort of application process, it’ll probably be super quick and easy. I’ll likely seek out alphas a few different times as I work on the game to account for inevitable drop-off and for fresh eyes, so don’t be discouraged if you’re not picked at first.

Anywho! Moving on!


Depression and anxiety (both of which I have) are commonly found in those with visual snow, and I wonder if part of my mental illness stems from my visual snow. Not all of it would be due to the visual snow, though, as my family has a very long history of mental illness, but perhaps it’s exacerbating it? I don’t know. I remember being depressed as early as third grade and having a few separate episodes since, but my current episode has been ongoing since late 2012/early 2013, even with my taking antidepressants and going to therapy for four times a week for four months in 2015. It’d make sense if my neurological issues were affecting my psychological issues. At least, it seems preferable than the possibility that my depression just isn’t ever going anywhere. :woman_shrugging:

I’ve been fortunate to have had quite a few wonderful doctors and psychiatrists alongside the bad, but the bad experiences have certainly made me more reluctant and less trustworthy.


I suppose I ought to mention that I’m getting a referral to my ophthalmologist again, the doctor who first mentioned visual snow. I’m not sure when I’ll see him (doctor appointments are expensive even with insurance), but at least that’s no longer a hurdle.


You can 100% develop just a friendship with him. He might still fall in love with you, but you don’t have to return his feelings. Developing a platonic friendship is probably harder than any other kind of relationship with him, but it’s certainly doable.

Thank you! That means a lot to me. :hugs: I hope you get some relief from your own conditions, even if that only means more good days than bad.

Honestly, visual snow is so weird and so rare, I was shocked that my ophthalmologist had not only heard of it but recognized my symptoms to be characteristic of it. I didn’t even realize I had visual snow until the past year-and-a-half or so because I genuinely thought that it was how everyone’s eyes worked.

I remember being three and thinking it was so hard to see clearly with all the static in the air, so I’ve had the condition my entire life. I mentioned the static vision to my brother, and he said, “No, Bailey, that’s definitely not normal.” I spent the next few days googling, trying to figure out what it was, and coming across visual snow was like the sun breaking through an overcast sky for the first time in months. Everything just clicked.

I mentioned visual snow and my symptoms to a few different doctors as an aside, and only one took it seriously and told me to see my optometrist because it could have been a detached retina. It wasn’t (but I am a very, very high risk for one due to my severe myopia), and he sent me to an ophthalmologist. By this point, none of my doctors had heard of visual snow or my symptoms, so I didn’t mention the condition to my ophthalmologist. He was the one who brought it up, and I was honestly thrilled. The sense of validation… it was so, so wonderful. He sent me to a neurologist, and it was honestly downhill from there

@lokidemon007 is right that Atheron is the tallest RO – he’s also the tallest character, period.

I never wrote down their exact heights in feet and inches, but I might as well do that now!

  • Jasiphae is about 5’7" (~168cm).
  • Sebriel is somewhere around 5’10” (~178cm).
  • Kaedra is something like 5’4" (~163cm).
  • Atheron is probably around 6’6" (~198cm), if not a little taller.
  • Iphorah (aka Pythia) is about 5’2" (~157cm).
  • Senetha is definitely 6’2" (~188cm).
  • Iseriah is around 5’1" (~155cm).
  • Nethica is probably 6’1" (~185cm).
  • Vesperion is like 6’0.5" (~184cm).

No, I suppose not. All of the ROs have their own stories beyond the MC, and for most of them, their story requires them to be older than the MC.

More or less. :wink:

The MC is objectively more beautiful than Jasiphae, but it’s so close that it really does come down to one’s opinion. Jasiphae is generally more well-liked than the MC, so most would say she’s more beautiful.

Oh, yes. Not all of them (at least, I don’t believe so – it may change as the story progresses), but you’re definitely able to kill some of them. For example, Vesperion – you can absolutely kill him. (I’m sure this will please some of you, lol)

Whenever I play a prince, I imagine him to be more beautiful than even Jasiphae, to the point it makes straight men a little uncomfortable, lmao.

Ooh! Tell us about him! :smile:

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Truer words have never been spoken. At night as a kid I would look around the room and be nearly terrified of anything because the static made it look like it was moving, but as a kid you can’t really put into words what you are seeing. I mentioned it casually in conversation to one of my friends while looking at the sky (any solid color will do but the sky is where it is most prominent) and I said something to the effect of “Do you ever wonder why they don’t paint the grain of your vision into any pictures?”, and after maybe ten minutes I realized I had something wrong. A very similar experience to when I realized I needed glasses, but overall it’s just weird. I do think about it a lot though, what do other people see? I wish I was good at painting myself. Maybe I could express with art what I can’t with words. It’s almost disconcerting now knowing that it isn’t normal.

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I haven’t visual snow, but i have vertigo and i could see double just looking fixedly something. I can have a normal life always i have my glasses that are super expensive more than 800 euros just the glasses as are special. Without them i just see a blurred colored something and i cannot even down some stairs.
It was terrible as with 4 years old people thing i had a psychological problem or something like sometimes i just felt like a potato sack or watched something fixedly.

I supposedly can go laser surgery to fix it but first Spanish healthcare doesn’t cover it (It doesn’t consider it essential because I could have glasses.) And There still a chance to end blind.

So I am sympathetic with your problem and hope that they found a way to treat you. I had lucky a good doctor discovered my problem right away.

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So, other than Sebriel, all the guys are taller than me… :open_mouth: That’s pretty tall for a Medieval/Renaissance guy. (Just checking the data, it looks like it was pretty variable, but in Britain at least, the average height was always under 5’10" until the 20th century.)

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This is not real earth here people seems more healthy with good food suply and exercise so logically they will be taller that medieval.people

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@fawkes @TheDanster …you two have honestly just blown my mind. I never even thought to talk about it or ask about it because I’ve never heard anyone else mention it and I’ve assumed that’s what the world looks like to everyone, I didn’t realize in till reading your posts its a condition I have and not how sight works!

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As I said, it changed with time. During the least healthy years, it would drop as low as 5’6" (~168 cm), but even at the highest, without modern farming techniques and dietary knowledge, it was only about 5’9" (~174 cm). I mean, sure, it’s a fantasy story, and there are ways it could be explained away, but it just seems a bit weird that, as a taller-than-average modern guy, I’d still be the second-shortest here. :man_shrugging:

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in Stonehenge has been found skeletonsmore 1,80 and in Norway etc people were far taller than average rest of world . Humanity is not magical become taller is all because diet exercise and better medical conditions. Also Neandertals were similar in height to normal today.
So in a fiction world is even more credible:

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These are not average people but wealthy nobles, though, so they should have access to far better nutrition than most people in pre-industrial Britain. Several English monarchs, for instance Edward IV (194 cm) and Edward Longshanks (188 cm) were much taller than average, so it might not be that unlikely.

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Thanks for the info on Jasi! The more I find out about her, the more I like the character! Will 100% by my main (canon) run through of the game! Will probably aim to be King, while also being as decent as possible, and of course, romancing Jasi :stuck_out_tongue:

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I forgot, you’re American and have a healthcare system that gouging you. The only medicine that is prohibitively expensive around here is cosmetic surgery (even when the patients really need it, but that’s another story) or various expirimental treatments.

All of your the romanceable guys are quite tall too. :astonished: Not that it matters for my mc since he’ll probably be around 187cm once he’s fully grown, but Atheron is really tall even for me. My only mc who’s that tall would be (Lord)Flash of the Myrmidon.

My mc would most likely compare himself to Nethica who seems to be the male mc’s most noteworthy competition for most beautiful man.

Yeah, I always assumed Nethica to be close in age to the mc, but this works too for me. For my mc Nethica will now probably be both his first serious crush (once he gets interested in boys in that way) and his role model once he first develops an interest in his own appearance and fashion. Hope Nethica knows how to deal with those sort of things. :wink:

Current average male height in the Netherlands is 183cm. Much to my vertically challenged dismay.
As the other poster has also mentioned these people are also the wealthy elites or elite soldiers who culturally and economically get dibs on the best food and healthcare in the Kingdom. It also helps if their healthcare is free of some of our more damaging medieval notions, about hygiene and bathing for starters.
My 173cm real-life centimeter would absolutely make me tiny runt among the Ophaesian nobility. Fortunately most of my mc’s in vicarious lives do not have to share my vertical challenges (which wouldn’t have been as bad as they are with a proper diagnois during my youth :unamused: ).

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Fair enough. I trust your skill as a writer enough to believe that you are not merely writing towards what you admit your preference is. After all, Henry VIII of England had to marry Katherine of Aragon, who was older than he was by 5 years - so history supports your choices.

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Well, the four Ophaesian guys are all above average height even for modern Scandinavians… :confused: I really doubt they’d have had access to the kinds of diet and medical conditions that we have today, even if they did do better than Europe at the time (which isn’t hard…) :thinking: And while it’s certainly possible that you’d get freakishly tall people, that would probably only account for Atheron. :thinking:

He then founded a religion to get out of that marriage, so it may not be the best example… :sweat_smile:

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Two words FANTASY FICTION lol. It is other universe with other religion other atmosphere and other food. So they are taller lol

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They are very much the elites and have been so for generations. Even in our past generations at the top of the social and economic order did improve height of kids.

Changing the laws of physics a bit works too. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I mean in the type of game puts fantasy. So i could see normal a bit of clerical magic some curse etc or even pegasus … I think Height is easy to believe more so when is no so different from the actual.

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There’s some logic behind nobles being taller than most people in this era. Then you realise that Nikolay II was super short and it makes you feel better. Like, I’ve been to Valley Forge (Washington’s Home) and I had to stoop through the doors because they were so much smaller then. So I personally won’t fixate on height considering most commoners will be barely scraping 5’6” for males and 5’3” for females.

The big thing about being the last son is of course, you have zero expectations and the chances of you inheriting are basically negligible. You can literally decide to just probably focus on your interests and have a better shot at being your own person as compared to the pressures being brought upon your older brothers.

You could marry later, focus on your studies more, and just enjoy life. Of course, since everyone despises you for something you didn’t do. You can just see the above and find your niche, if that includes looking dashing while staring out of a tower brooding, then you have a lot of time to practice it.

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