Yeah it can definitely depend on the personality we’re going for, i think. But idk for me, it just seemed like, every turn someone in the group was putting MC down for something, even when we tried to be nice. Also I agree, Bradley is cool. he had his moments after Syd got taken, but for the most part he was always a big kid, that got on our nerves like a little brother lol. But Syd, Chris, Rahim just always chose the weirdest times to act cold towards us (at least for my MC anyway). Like they’d be cool one moment laughing, talking etc and MC will walk away come back and now it’s like “idk what you are, I don’t like it” " you’re the reason everything is bad" “you might kill everyone” “leave me alone” “this won’t work” “stop having feeling for me” or flat out ignoring us. Ofc compared to our enemies, it’s not THAT bad, but geez lol.
Lol honestly, I tried to send Chris away on one playthrough and just…couldn’t. I felt so horrible, I restarted and chose to take him
Love the series and would totally die for it, but I absolutely agree with your opinions. It’s pain filled if you’re self-inserting or just empathetic with your characters. And Chris is the most out of pocket and bitter best friend I have ever seen in one of these books lol. Like the dude is just an absolute mess and can’t be compassionate for like three seconds, and even has the balls to blame you for your uncle (potentially) getting killed during his tantrums iirc . PSA: if you flirt with him, Rahim and Zillah through 1 & 2 I always feel like my MC gets their vengeance by putting the guy through the ringer lmao.
But yeah, Superstition is very MC-hater-central for the poor thing. Not to mention the twist in Book 3!!! My little dude can’t catch a break with their allies, enemies or even random passers-by. The author is throwing L after L their way, and all they can do is lie there and take it.
I think that’s exactly what it is!! I tend to self insert or be empathetic with my characters in these games. It doesn’t help that I tend to listen to music during my reading and the songs somehow always match up with the situation, making me feel everything more.
Chris Truly does lack compassion and it’s insane because when you read his character description you’d think the exact opposite. He makes everything about him. But due to him being your “bestfriend” it makes it hard to treat him exactly how he treats us, without going right back to being nice to him. ( I want to try a playthrough where I give the same energy and see how bad our friendship can get)
And oooo yes!! Him throwing in our face that MCs uncle, their last living family member is dead basically because of us, whilst he still has family made me really have to just pause and imagine how I would even respond to something like that in real life.
Lastly, I did try to romance him, but after he “broke up” with us, I chose to hook up with Leoni and send Chris on his way. His reaction almost…ALMOST made me feel bad enough to go back but I stuck with it.
The problem with Amari is that I think she is hiding or confused about a lot of the resentment she feels towards PC. Particularly if you lose control of your powers and kill her pack there’s that interaction where she blames you for it, instead of her own inaction. I would say that the only people who actually are wholly consistent in their behaviour towards PC are your uncle (if he lives,) Zillah, and with the addition of S3, Vihaan and Death. Hopefully Channara (is that right? She somehow doesn’t make much of an impression on me) will be as well. But everyone else is “let me tell you how you feel about me and then treat you like something I’d throw my shoes away rather than just scrape it of if I got some on me.” None of them treated PC like the relationships that have been established for them. By S3 my Rahim and Sydero stats are bottomed out, my Chris stat is around twenty, and my Bradley stat is probably only around sixty because I keep running off to help the vulnerable teenager (B) instead of the grown man (C.) My Bradley stat is low because I try to keep Amari optimistic so she doesn’t snap and try to eat anyone. For some reason my Amari stat is almost maxed out/generally higher than Zillah’s even (I tend to romance Zillah because at least he’s useful) until we get Sydero back.
As far as I remember on my one Romance Chris playthrough, he isn’t any better if you’re playing as a woman. Still better than Rahim, who’d tie you up in a bow and sell you to the highest bidder at the drop of a hat.
Honestly, I have a love-hate relationship with Zillah. Hate because either this guy or someone connected to him is responsible for almost every bad thing that happens to MC in their life, and he does not feel bad about it at all. The moment I got the option to be violent with him, I took it. And every other option to kick his ass because he deserves it.
Love because out of all the male ROs, he is the most interesting unfortunately and the drama and toxicity is fun. Like, yes baby, last week I punched you repeatedly in the face for traumatizing me, do you want to makeout now? He’s awful but he’s interesting, I like toxic relationships in fiction, and I don’t have many romance options otherwise.
No but seriously, I tried to romance Chris. I tried, man. But no. Just no. Guy has some issues with his self-esteem and resentment that he needs to sort out. I’m sorry my MC is so cool and tough, maybe go to therapy, Chris, IDK. Get better. He’s not even that great of a friend, he ditches you to flirt with 19 year olds I think at one point. Might be exaggerating but the point is, he can be a bad friend and a worse love interest. We’re better off with the tense friendship where he occasionally (or often) chews me out because he’s jealous or something. At least Zillah isn’t supposed to be our best friend. IDK, maybe I’ll try again because it’s been a while since I played Superstition, but it probably isn’t worth the effort of romancing him.
I don’t even remember the other male ROs name, I just did not care for him. Cannot be bothered. Same with Sidero, I just didn’t like her.
I felt kind of weird about Amari, she felt too young to me. I thought she was a teen. But I like her as a friend, somehow one of the more normal characters.
Anyway, yeah, the ROs kind of suck but it is what it is and I like Zillah so not all is lost. I do like the story but MC needs a break, barely any wins. It is one in the morning and I am tired, sorry if this comes across weirdly.
Lol yeah, I agree with the ‘Tried’ part with Chris, Loved the idea of making the best friends to lovers trope work out but, it became kinda grody once I thought about it all. He was so happy to announce we were together, but the whole time I was on the other side of my screen like…Ehhhh i’m not feeling it. Had to go back and turn him down (felt horrible but somehow at that point the relationship just felt forced and built on undercover animosity)
I utterly tried, but couldn’t- when it came down to romancing any of them, to be honest lmao. I tried every single route (except Chanaa) and always ended up with Zillah. It’s the same reason I never finished Amari’s route. I got distracted by Zillah and under a heavy heart turned around and turned her down when she confessed her feelings. But I really want to do her route because she seems sweet, so far.
Also, I too, beat him up every time I got the chance .
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Same Here!! I tend to gravitate towards the Toxic RO dynamic in IFs too.They’re always more fun; especially when it’s not one sided.
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I’m thinking I might have to wait for the full series to be finished before giving all of their routes another try. Who knows maybe they’ll redeem themselves the rest of book 3 and book 4 when it drops.
Yeah, for some reason Chris’ route just… doesn’t work for me either. I’ve heard that it’s satisfying to romance him with an m!Roe because it would be Chris’ first queer relationship but I’ve never tried it myself as I’m really attached to my f!Roe. I usually leave Chris and end up romancing Zillah or Sydero, they have the best routes imo by FAR. Zillah is my favorite but he only edges Syd out by the tiniest bit. She’s amazing and the only aro RO I’ve ever truly become invested in.
I might have to try Syd again!! I think I went for her, on my very first playthrough, but I can’t really remember If I enjoyed it or not. I know Her and Amari have a poly route now, so I also want to see how their Dynamic works.
Also Idk if anyone recalls if the writer said but, Is it better for the Nerve Number to be High or Low??
I feel like I asked this already and the writer said the Nerve really didn’t matter in the long haul of things, but idk, I could be remembering wrong. I have been trying my hardest to notice any differences between having it High or low and i’m not seeing it- but I can’t get past the thought that it has to be doing something or else it wouldn’t be there, right lol?
Zillah being horny all the time when he sees me is kinda funny also the joke of Lucifer (Hello Supernatural!) Being our father. But wait I don’t actually recall this, is Lucifer our father lmao?
I can’t tell if Nerve does anything, and I can’t really seem to either raise or lower it consistently. I think that often the options I pick simply because I like the dialogue choice better for my playthrough and characterisation of Roe keep my gaining or losing or Nerve inconsistent. But there’s nothing to me that clearly speaks to what the Nerve meter is looking for. Is it bravado? Competence? Sarcasm? What?
Nerve is really mostly about how Roe handles adversity. If you choose to give in to fear and overthinking, that usually lowers nerve. It doesn’t affect the story much except different scenes in a few spots. For example, low nerve Roes pass out once they get back from Hell in S2, I’m pretty sure.
I think S1 and S2 were updated recently in some tiny ways so I’m not sure how solid the old guides are anymore but I’ll leave them here anyway.
Lol yeah that man is persistent, You can’t even give bro a knuckle Sandwich without him turning it around and trying to get us to “relieve all that pent up anger”
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