No prob. I appreciate seeing another author interested.
Are you talking about Hong Kongese cinema? The Mainland just cracked down on LGBT content, again, last year. Some French movie actually took like 4 years of multiple attempts at editing to get into cinemas, and no one was even sure if the two guys were in a relationship or not by the time the editing passed the censors. All kinds of little silly gay things are edited out of Western tv shows before airing here.
I’d started your story and was enjoying it, but I had a browser hiccup and decided to go back when there was a save. It had a really good old HK feel. I’m gonna go check it out again, now. I’ll be looking forward to any changes you make.
PS If I remember correctly, there was an old master from Jinan, right? That was a nice shout-out to where I first lived, here.
EDIT: Oh, and to the realistically representing persecution… eh, no. I don’t want that in my distraction from reality. I think romantic scenes set as secret rendezvous or one of the underground gay clubs in Victorian London would be a nice touch, but no getting thrown out by parents or hate crimes. Real life was enough.
Queer relationships are not the same as heterosexual honestly? Having your Queer MC automatically assume the position of “the girl” and write most interactions as how you would write a straight girl is not really good. Straight women experience attraction differently than Gay men and even then, within our relationships…there really aren’t gender roles? You can have two really masculine men dating, two really feminine men dating, some who aren’t distinctively either (I’m sure there are relationships where a Masc guy is dating a femme as well and that is also ok).
In SOS: The Mortal Coil, you have the option of being more passive or assertive and that’s something to take note of. Having the choice in engaging our relationship (in the case of SOS: The Mortal Coil, a sexual one) in such a way is something that I think would definitely work well in mot stories.
*Note: I’m using Gay men as my focus because that’s what I have most experience with.
First we straight girls don’t want be forced to that Victorian shit either. Of course queer etc needs those dynamics you say… Same as hetero women do. Because i like have a playful active situation myself… No avail absolutely all goes to you are a shy passive nun… I AM NOT…
Nobody shouldn’t judge anything about your romantic preferences base in your gender identity or sex preferences.
Oh yea definitely! Straight women should also be able to choose how they engage with their romances as well. I’m just making note of a trend in CoG with writing these things.
Ironically. a new study on porn shows that many straight women secretly watch gay porn … are you positive that women, straight or otherwise “experience attraction differently?”
As the following article says: Heterosexual porn is designed for men and this often makes women uncomfortable.
Attraction is attraction, regardless of gender or preference.
Literally, Gay porn is far more subtle and suggerent that heterosexual. Heterosexual is rude blunt and with no anything basically… i don’t know what heterosexual men see in it
I mean Men tend to focus on physical attraction. That’s something I noticed whenever my cis guy friends and I are remark first (out of everything) whenever we talk about our crushes or our S.O’s. Then it goes to the personality and other characteristics of the person.
My cis women friends tend to go straight about the emotional connection they have with their crushes/ SO’s. Then it usually goes down to physical traits.
And my trans guy friends talk about how they don’t feel comfortable of that aspect of masculine attraction because of how shallow it is.
That’s what I mean in regards to the difference of attraction? Obviously, this doesn’t apply to everyone, but that’s something that I just wanted to note.
Ironically. a new study on porn shows that many straight women secretly watch gay porn … are you positive that women, straight or otherwise “experience attraction differently?”
As the following article says: Heterosexual porn is designed for men and this often makes women uncomfortable.
Heterosexual porn is designed for men, and a researcher finds that it often makes women uncomfortable.
There is a community of Women fetishizing gay men and love to “sin” by consuming Gay porn or drawing/writing Gay porn.
Also Heterosexual porn is made for Heterosexual men. They make the porn to be pleasing to heterosexual men, so…yeah they are gonna be focusing on the actress since it is under the assumption that Men^tm will find it sexy (which is terrible because that type of mindset is sexist let’s be honest and it doesn’t allow much room for innovation or creativity). Straight women don’t really want to watch another woman being ravished. From my experience as a gay man, that isn’t sexy. What’s sexy is a man having a time and people will scrub to the end because the build up is not necessary (most gay men I know don’t much care for the building up to the deed, but it’s a movie. Might as well make it look polished).
I’m assuming this is what heterosexual men see in fetishistic Lesbian porn. Straight men in the audience, have I gotten this correct?
One thing is difference in how gender see attractions normally. And other people dynamics during or pre intercourse. Media assume that men has one women have other and doesn’t move from it.
Real life doesn’t work like that. I hope Cog new adult content would be open to all the reality spectrum in gender preferences and dynamics. I have hope someday could read a dating cog were I have a great evening with my date and could choose from a choice of doing something to surprise him and show a playful initiative… And no the trend you Woman you shy have to wait Alpha male come to grab you and submit to all his wishes because you weak woman thing…
the issue…I see personally , when say ‘Write hetero and Gay differently’ . Is that , the main issue…is the author experience with such a thing (or lack of it) .
When a ‘difference’ is made , it’s cringe worthy when it become ‘fit a box’ stereotype .
I , as a lesbian…I don’t think that stand out like a sore thumb . does it ?
when I write a lesbian , the orientation is always in the back burner . Because there are thousand things you can write , tiny things that can make a lesbian and an hetero female stand from each others without painting with a heavy brush…that one sleep with womenz .
you could say ‘well thats not realistic ! a lesbian and an hetero are nothing alike !’ …
Hell , they have more in commun than you think . from the root of period…to the hair lol
And nobody is similar to everyone . Thats the charm and curse of individuality .
My point I guess …is writing them similar…save me from cringing at the usual stereotype , and also…the freedom to boarden the horizon . There are Billions of peoples on this planet…why I’m stuck with roguish lesbian again ?
As for attraction , that too is different from person to person . And it apply to everyone .
I think that we should not write differently i think we should let CHOICES to develop what role in the action you want… Do you want wait other part initiative. Do you want a balance playful dynamic or a more active one I am talking in general not only in pure sexual scenes
I am going to object this - the article we both link doesn’t say this anywhere. As a matter of fact, this is what it actually says:
The simple fact is that attraction is in the eye of the beholder and that all genders of all preferences will often find elements of attraction to be the same:
These elements can be attractive no matter who you are.
The article’s focus is explaining Women using gay porn as a means to explore their sexual wants and desires with the exploitation of women:
Exploitation of women:
Neville interviewed and surveyed more than 500 women over five years for the project. Many of the women with whom she spoke said “a lot of the problem they have with heterosexual porn is that they focus on the female body" without paying enough attention to men.
The women surveyed also expressed a “strong desire to consume porn that is ethical in some way,” Neville said, and they found some heterosexual porn “exploitative.” She found there was a general sense among those interviewed that male actors participate in pornography because they enjoy sex, while some interviewees indicated they were worried about women performers and the gender dynamics in heterosexual porn.
Experimentation with sexual desires:
"What women liked most about male-male porn is versatility, and with heterosexual porn you are going to get penetrated eventually, and that’s dull,” she added. “A lot of ways it can play out with men is more exciting, more experimentation, more open to negotiation.”`
I’ll be looking forward to any changes you make.