Keeper of the Sun and Moon (Discussion)

@Disciple
The current requirements is lawful < 35. You can also choose to support Reyna in Chapter 13, and you’ll automatically visit her in the epilogue.

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Nice. I can manage that without sacrificing my 60 cruelty, or my Cyrus friendship. Thank you :kissing_heart:

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I’m curious what you would choose with these stats.

So how do I go about getting the ‘Stay Alive’ achievement? The one where you almost die in the final battle?

@Disciple
No preference

@Jordan_Kelley
Saving Kol helps. Aside from that, basically, just choosing the worst possible options against Reyna – punch her if you have low fighting, illusion if low willpower, element with low element etc. You need to fail at least 2/3 stat checks, but depending on how badly you fail and if you saved Kol, you could get away with only failing 2.

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Loving the new update, glad I can finally be an angry nephilim lol.

A meme

Astrid: I don’t really know human places, but where are you from
MC: I’m from Arizona
Astrid: I know where that is!! :smiley:
MC:
image

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Kitsune player questions:

Should I choose Elemental Manipulation II or Psychic Abilities? Which one boosts my illusory capabilities and general battle capabilities more (I picked telekinesis I and II, and learned illusions from Gisela instead of shifting from Kol).

Also how does one boost Elemental Manipulation? My Willpower has capped out at 28 (any later game choices that boost it?), and Telekinesis above 20, I think. Elemental Manipulation rarely cracks 20.

Elemental manipulation is based on intelligence I believe. In general, for high EM, you’re going to want to practice elemental manipulation whenever you have the chance, even if it means ignoring the interaction options with the suite mates. High intelligence makes getting high EM easier (I usually do int mains and end up with like 30 EM).

Illusion strength is based on either willpower or cunning I believe. Psychic abilities will boost your illusions more I believe, but I’m pretty sure illusions and EM are equally useful in combat. It’s just a question of whether you want to be more subtle or blast things into oblivion.

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For now, I would go with Elemental Manipulation II. Currently, Psychic Abilities doesn’t give any stat boosts (perhaps something to look into, @daydreamsincolor?)

Illusion manipulation is based on willpower, so you’ll wanna raise that if you wish to use it effectively.

Willpower guide

*Numbers with letters beside them (e.g. 4.a)) indicate a possible branch or variation based on previous choices, and are possible to miss
(e.g. the Simulation with Astrid and Yakov have a different letter to indicate that they’re branches)

*I’ve included other accompanying stat changes, which may help you decide if you wish to choose the option or not

*If there are any errors or questions, feel free to chime in!

~~~Chapter 1~~~
1. 
#Try to stay awake.
  *set willpower +3

2.
#That did not just happen, that did not just happen, that did not...
  *set astridRelationship %-5
  *set willpower +1
  *set logical %-10
  *set resistant %+5

3.
#"Can't we just pretend this all never happened?"
  *set willpower +1
  *set giftShop true
  *set astridRelationship %+5

4.a) Simulation with Astrid
#Move in front of Astrid!
  *set health -15
  *set willpower +1
  *set kind %+10
  *set astridRelationship %+20
  *set logical %-10

	5.a) 
	#"Get back!"
  	*set noCompulsion false
  	*set willpower +1
  	*set magicUse +2

		6.a)
		*if resistant > 50 
		 #Try to die on purpose.
  		   *set willpower +1
  		   *set resistant %+5
  		   *set lawful %-5
  		   *set health 0
  		   *set cunning +1
  		   *set happiness %-5
  		   *set astridRelationship %-5

4.b) Simulation with Yakov
#Move in front of Yakov!
  *set health -15
  *set willpower +1
  *set kind %+10
  *set yakovRelationship %+15
  *set yakovEmotions +5
  *set logical %-5

	5.b)
 	*if resistant > 50 
	  #Try to die on purpose.
  	    *set willpower +1
  	    *set resistant %+5
  	    *set cunning +1
  	    *set yakovEmotions +1
  	    *set yakovRelationship %-10
  	    *set lawful %-5
  	    *set happiness %-5
  	    *set health 0



~~~Chapter 2~~~
1.
#"You were quite the joiner. Half a dozen clubs that you participated in and another dozen that you led, that must have taken a lot of determination."
  *set willpower +15

2.a) While shopping with Astrid
*if resistant >= 50
 #No, no way. I'm not getting any more tangled up in this magic crap.
   *set willpower +1
   *set resistant %+5



~~~Chapter 3~~~
1.a) Go to library
#Look at [i]The Complete Guide to Control Magic[/i] by Jullen Selter.
  *set willpower +1



~~~Chapter 4~~~
1.a) Take Magic Resistance 
  *set willpower +4



~~~Chapter 5~~~
1.a) (Magi!MC) Encounter hunters during exam 
 *if willpower >= 10
   *set willpower +3

2.a) Talk to Seraphina after jobs fair
*if class4 = "Magic Resistance"
 #"I was wondering if you could help me practice for Magic Resistance."
   *set willpower +1


~~~Chapter 6~~~
1.a) (Kitsune!MC) Illusion Manipulation lessons
  *set willpower +5

1.b) (Cambion!MC) Hellhound training lessons
  *set willpower +5

2.a) Halloween
#I'll just go into the city.
	#Head to the street fair with Astrid, Seraphina, and Yakov.
		 #One of those wish candles.
  		 *set resistant %-10
		 *set seraphinaRelationship %-5
		 *set logical %-5
			#Make a wish for strength and power.
			  *set willpower +5



~~~Chapter 7~~~
1.a) Take World Cultures
#Study for class. Finals are coming up soon, and they're gonna be brutal
  *set intelligence +3
	#Work on the oral presentation.
		#Control Magic Legality in Africa.
		  *set willpower +2

2.a) Magic Resistance class
*if willpower >= 5
  *set freewill true
	*if freewill 
  	   *set willpower +1
*set willpower +3



~~~Chapter 8~~~
1.a) Kistune scene
  *set willpower +3

2.a) Elemental Manipulation Exam with Leon
*if willpower >= 10
 #"Wait, Leon!"
   *set lawful %-15
   *set noCompulsion false
   *set magicUse +2
   *set compelThalia true
   *if leonRelationship < 60
     *set leonRelationship %-20
   *set willpower +1

*if (species = "kitsune") and (willpower >= 5)
 #Distract him with a skillful illusion.
   *set willpower +1
   *set magicUse +1
   *set lawful %-10
   *set illusionUse true
   	*if (illusionUse) and (cunning < 15)
	  *set class1grade -15
   *set willpower +1

2.b) Elemental Manipulation Exam with Thalia (Elemental!MC)
*if willpower >= 10
 #"Wait, Thalia."
   *set magicUse +2
   *set willpower +1
   *set lawful %-10
   *set noCompulsion false
   *if thaliaRelationship < 50
     *set thaliaRelationship %-20
   *set compelThalia true
   *set class1grade -15

3. Monsters and Rogues Exam
#"Stop."
  *set willpower +3

*if (species = "kitsune")
 #Distract it with a clever illusion.
   *set willpower +3



~~~Chapter 9~~~
1.a) Cressida's present
  *set willpower +1

2.a) Katia's present
  *set intelligence +1
  *set elemental +1
  *set willpower +1
  *set telekinesis +1
  *set cunning +1
 
3. Attack on Townhall
#"No, stop!"
  *set willpower +3



~~~Chapter 10~~~
1.a) Griffin attack on Thalia/Jarrod road trip
#STOP attacking us. Leave now. LEAVE NOW.
  *set willpower +2

1.b) Stay in NMC
#Look over to the instructional posters myself
	#Enhanced Control Magic on Night of Full Moon
	  *set willpower +1

2. Control Magic Class
  *set willpower +4

3.a) Psychic Resistance
  *set willpower +4



~~~Chapter 11~~~
1.a) Nephilim scene
  *set willpower +1

1.b) Cambion scene
  *set willpower +1

2.a) Control Magic Class with Yakov 
#"Walk forwards."
  *set willpower +3

3.a) MC compels Roland Castella when they meet 
  *sets willpower +3



~~~Chapter 12~~~
n/a



~~~Chapter 13~~~
1. Reyna fight 
*if species = "kitsune"
 #Focus on manipulating her perceptions. 
   *set willpower +1

#"Don't do this, Reyna."
  *set willpower +1

2. Hellhounds
#"Stay."
  *set willpower +1

3. Final attack
#"Stop it, Reyna!"
  *set willpower +1



~~~Epilogue~~~
n/a

Use elemental manipulation whenever you can (in fights, when studying for class, etc.). I’ll try to post an updated guide on it soon, but I’m busy with school so it may take a few days.

There are stat boosts in the late game, yes, but I find they’re usually smaller boosts (in my experience). I don’t generally play characters with high telekinesis, so I won’t say too much on it, but I can confirm that it’s possible to have a kitsune with 40 elemental manipulation by the end of the game (my main MC has this). Or 40+ depending on a few small choices.

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Is anyone who uses Amazon still waiting to save their characters?

Spotted this. Lysander’s character info should be on a seperate line like the others.

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Did I hear the game has been released?

It hasn’t—the sequel’s just pending for publication. But if you’re talking about this one: yes, for a while now.

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How do you investigate the attack on Town hall ??

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But that’s exactly what I did though… :cry:

Go celebrate with your suitemate and then when the make an excuse to go investigate. If the option is greyed out…either you forgot to choose to do something about it early on or your cunning/curiosity stat isn’t high enough.

@Roaring_Donut
The official guide is: In Chapter 5, when learning about the attack choose “We have to do something about this.” In Chapter 6, don’t investigate the Delacroix Massacre, and choose to investigate the town hall attack.

If this doesn’t work, please let me know!

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Has anyone been able to save a game if you bought the game through Amazon?

I finally got it ! I still don’t know what I did wrong before but I don’t seem to have any problems now :slight_smile:

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