I don’t care about Seven being mad–I just want all my MCs to beat him and SV. Especially after that ask above, where Amy rubbed it in that Seven and SV are more popular than MC’s band, and that it’s “karma”.
I think my MC has been kicked around enough, thank you. It’s time for Seven to get some karmic justice.
I’ve just seen it. 
hell I just took a screenshot in case I lose the post or gets deleted.
That post tells me a few things:
I don’t think the person who sent that ask was basing Seven and Avina’s friendship in general as a source of the love triangle. I do think they could’ve worded it better, but their friendship is irrelevant. The overall dynamic when the MC is included is what makes it a love triangle. It’s the fact that Avina has feelings for Seven; the MC has feelings for Seven; Seven has feelings for the MC, and so on. It’s essentially a love triangle. I don’t know; maybe I’m not seeing it from a certain perspective, so if anyone has a different way of explaining how it’s not a love triangle, feel free to respond.
I mean I kind of agree.
But we could also misinterpret it because we are bound to MC as unreliable narrator.
The update is not giving much.
It’s crazy that we have almost 200k in words but the story feels like it is just starting out.
Also yes, the triangle is just not from the MCs perspective
I guess the idea is that if it’s an intense friendship rather than a romantic one, that means it isn’t a love triangle in the traditional sense; I don’t think I’ve seen a trio that includes a platonic relationship described as a love triangle because love triangles tend to be romantic in all directions.
But… I see your point, a friendship between two of the people involved could be either a help or a blocker to a romance, and if the MC feels stuck on the outside, that does have some things in common with a more traditional love triangle. I guess the concern for a Seven-romancing MC might be that Seven would listen to Avina if they advised them not to get back together with the MC? I suppose it would also depend on whether an MC would be happy with romancing Seven if the Seven-Avina friendship remained as physically/emotionally intimate as it is, and if not, whether there would be chances to talk about it and figure out where everyone’s boundaries are.
Well… there are 20 chapters or so planned so it kind of makes sense!
Oh , yes I know. I love it 
. And I am also kinda astonished because my own writing is basically stalling while I rework my own outline and let life kick my button
And Amy is just writing book long chapters in record time.
Calling it a love triangle is a bit like calling a canoe a ship, like yeah it technically floats, but not the same thing. Wouldn’t want to try and trek the Atlantic with it
Like the Wayhaven love triangle is a classic, codified, sort of love triangle. This is more just messy, intense interpersonal relationships, not inherently romantic but definitely very personal.
Also low-key people gotta stop taking the author joking about in the worst possible light, god forbid an author be playful
That could be what Amy is trying to convey, but then there are certain questions that hint towards Seven and Avina starting a relationship if the MC doesn’t pursue a romantic relationship with Seven. I suppose it’s possible she was joking, and she never intended for anyone to take it seriously. It also begs the question of why their relationship dynamic is a spoiler if it’s just the standard intense friendship. I appreciate the response and the different perspective you offered.
It’s definitely possible that she was joking in most of those questions regarding Savina, but when people have asked if Seven and Avina are dating, the answer is, “Not at the moment.” That means no, but it’s a possibility that they will in the future. In order for them to date, they have to have feelings for each other. Unless the general consensus is that Avina doesn’t currently have romantic feelings for Seven but will develop feelings for them before the game ends.
Also, I don’t think the depiction of a relationship has to be romantic for it to be deemed a love triangle. There’s plenty of media coverage of love triangles, and there’s typically a person included in the love triangle who isn’t necessarily being romantic towards the individual that they’re contesting for. Either way, I appreciate the response and the different perspective you offered.
That doesn’t say that at all, first, because it just doesn’t say that and second - because unhealthy codependency is the crux of the matter in mc/7 relationship even if it’s friendship, that theme has been established for 7.
I would like to point out, that isn’t really what a love triangle is. If someone doesn’t pursue a relationship with someone, that person getting together with someone else doesn’t mean it’s a love triangle, that just means they’re moving on. Now, I know people tend to not be a fan of that either in IF’s, and that’s an entirely different conversation. That being said, I’m an outsider looking in on this since school has halted my life in nearly everything for the past 2 months.
But yeah, just sounds like unrequited love from Alvina’s perspective, if anything, from what I’m reading in here.
Based on the recent asks/answers, I would say it’s a spoiler because MC (and by extension the player) is meant to think that there’s something there even if there actually isn’t. It’s drama and it’s less dramatic if everything is spelled out for you beforehand.
That wasn’t a point towards the relationship being a love triangle. I included that to make the point about Avina and Seven potentially dating in order to include that there would need to be feelings involved for that to happen.
That’s a good point and it’s entirely possible.
There is probably an element in the relationship that will be more fun/interesting/dramatic to find out when it comes up in the game rather than before (though I’ve no idea what that might be).
That’s interesting! I guess I was thinking of it more like say Bella/Edward/Jacob where it’s the protagonist choosing between two people, or where the protagonist has a romantic rival for someone else’s affections (where Avina would be the rival - but in this case it isn’t romantic). As I say, I do get that an intense friendship can get in the way of a romance, especially if Avina did not trust the PC and warned Seven off them. Thank you for that perspective.
It’s not a standard love triangle and I agree that the question should have been worded better, but I don’t think it’s fair to say the Seven/Avina/MC dynamic doesn’t feel a little ambiguous. I’m glad Amy went ahead and said that, even tho I do agree that it’s a spoiler that “ruins” the drama, but I mean there must be a reason as for why people feel the way they do.
Like Avina saying they sleep with Seven did feel like a petty “I have your place now”, even though their relationship is meant to be platonic.
Avina falls into unrequited love kind of situation, at least.
I don’t want to butt in, since the author can and has to do whatever they want, but some stuff just doesn’t sound right.
Glad to know Avina is out of the picture romantically, but I highly doubt we won’t see some more petty shenanigans (especially considering the spoilers I’ve seen)
Avina did felt like they were aiming for Seven’s affections to me. Maybe not romantic, but affection for sure. I will continue to refuse the mere idea of Savina, but fanna, can we stop with them being pushed as this perfect wholesome apple pie friendship that will surely not replace non-proactive MC if Seven doesn’t remove his head out of his arse?
I wonder if I’ll have to drag Seven into a romance path by his hair. Like, I don’t mind playing a Jun without his worst parts, but it feels weird when my reading of the text is constantly spurned and disproved by the text himself, and when you try to match the pieces with the past, present and possible future they just don’t mash. Seven, the Mr. Codependence I-Will-Spiral-Out-Of-Control-Without-You-MC Duckstein, is acting so mushy with Avina? Seven, the guy who feels very combatitive, secretive and very prone to bury everything personal deep down, is eyefucking a person who doesn’t mean to him a half of what MC did and it’s described as an honest feeling?
I’m not jealous, but I feel I’m being screwed with. And it really doesn’t help that I wrote Ivan to be jealous and incredibly possessive just to see him do… well, probably nothing at the sight, lol.
Hey, doing xanax at least monthly is perfectly healthy! Just ask Ivan, the stablest rapper around the block.
To be honest, I would not mind jealousy making ex-lover MC optionally seeing signs in every interaction between Seven and Avina. But that should be optional and Seven should still follow the traits that he was stated to have. I just don’t believe in them being so mushy, it doesn’t fit and it drives me up the wall. Have I fallen into a headcanon trap? I doubt it.
Ooh. I joked about Seven and ex-lover MC being like in Eminem’s Kim, but I wonder if it’ll stay a joke for long.
I mean, the narrative is already pushing them as the perfect friendship, with Avina being a “better” companion than MC. They are constantly rammed down the MC’s throat, and that answer made it seem that the relationship has no issues and is great the way it is. It’s just a “different” kind of friendship… you know, where you snuggle and sleep with your friend every night, can’t leave their side, and eye fuck them on stage.
So it’s “healthy” as opposed to the horrible demon MC, who had a codependent miserable situation with Seven and they couldn’t have lasted because of how horrible they were together. While Avina and Seven are just perfect together, despite Seven still clinging to them the way they clung to the MC. So I guess Avina is just a better person all around than the MC?
Still feels like a LT, especially when Seven will end up with Avina if the MC doesn’t romance them. There have to be feelings for that to happen, and Seven clearly loves Avina, even if it’s just in a QPR way right now.
I swear Seven has more and more red flags pop up every day.
Bingo. And I don’t like being screwed with. What we see isn’t meshing with what we’re told, and it’s not just the MC’s “unreliable” POV, unless they’re literally hallucinating Seven sharing his bed with Avina and constantly attached to Avina at the hip. And if we are hallucinating, then this game would go off the rails and MC should be in a loony bin.
My guess? Yes. And you’ll have to fight Avina every step of the way, because they’ll be trash talking the MC to control Seven and keep him from getting with the MC.
That’s a good point as well, and it makes sense. I can definitely see that being the case for the secrecy of their dynamic as well.
That’s understandable. My mindset was more focused on the Stefan/Elena/Damon dynamic. It was still considered a love triangle even before Elena had any romantic feelings for Damon, just because Damon was interested in her.
I fully agree and thank you again for your perspective and responses.
Ok, resident Twilight fan here! In my opinion, twilight isn’t a love triangle. It’s a typical romance with a random third person with a crush. I’ve never bought Bella having buried feelings for Jacob, it doesn’t make sense to me.
I will say however, that Savina reminds me of Bella and Jacob. Two friends with a physical relationship that looks romantic on the outside. One of them has a separate love interest, and the other is interested in the friend (this is speculation for Avina. I haven’t seen anything suggesting it, but some people think it’s a possibility).
