Infamous if (band wip) chap 3 (457k wrds) released (9/08/2024)

The only good ending is an ending without Viktor…

Make G the sex you don’t romance. I made G female and was able to play O and 7’s paths.

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My MC’s are bi lol no help there. lol but yeah everytime i boot up the game Im like WOO gonna try out O this time! Or maybe August! an hour later Oh im romancing G would you look at that.

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Realistically, G is probably screwed if they try to get out of whatever contract they’re currently under, so it would probably be cataclysmic for them if they walk. Same thing for Victoria - there’s plenty of reason to stay when you’re under such mental and emotional distress as those two.

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I have a lot of self control :relieved_face:

JK, I let myself choose a couple romance options, as a treat. The magic number is two (2) romance options. Choosing 3+ romance options puts you on their route.

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Then, yes, I see your problem! I’d have the same problem in your shoes!

Reading Auggy’s code makes me sad, because I think I might like their romance if I played it.

Yeah, as much as I’d love to see a happy ending where G tells Viktor to pound sand, starts their own label, and has O representing them, it’s not going to happen for the reason you stated. G would be ruined if they walked away from Viktor, and they wouldn’t do that.

With Victoria, I think she’s been riding the Valenreign train so long, she’s afraid to get off of it. And that’s why I think romancing either of them is going to blow up in the MC’s face.

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I do this with August. Picking occasional option that’s “unintentionally romantic” but riding the total just below the line where people start to take notice. Since the threshold increases over time (went from 2->3 or 3->4, i can’t remember) i’m hoping i’ll be able to do that for a while more, if this trend continues. :v

IKR. I kept the handholding friendly but then took the option to hold them closer during the group photo option and they’re like “it’s okay if it’s you” and ughhhhhhhhhh. Like, get out, what do you think you’re doing to me, just casually dropping lines like that.

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I don’t know, I could very much see this on the table. I’d think it’s probably a necessity for the character arc (a version of it?) for G to get a way from Viktor. Not sure if this is going to be the kind of IF where you can push an RO down one of two different “paths”.

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Same! The August handholding options just get to me, y’know? And I like the vibe of “this is Totally Friendly, but I’d be kind of down… maybe…?” like there’s a little bit of a vibe, but it’s still mostly platonic.

Omggg, I know. Like, August, you can’t just say things like that and expect my MC to not want to kiss you :sob:

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I think it would make sense from a game aspect, but realistically, I can’t see it, no matter how miserable G is being owned by Viktor.

I’m not sure about the endings. There isn’t much info out there on how many different endings there will be, other than the fact that you can win BOTB (even if you romance G, but I’m guessing that will depend on certain choices, like distancing yourself from them, so you suffer more for longer but ultimately get the win, as opposed to not walking away from them and probably losing because of it). We know there’ll be different endings for the main LIs, but I 'm not sure about the sub-ROs, because it’s all decided by Amy and how she wants it at the end (and I’m guessing they will all be awful endings, because she prefers pain and angst to happy, lol).

So yeah, I just don’t see it happening with G walking away. Not unless MC can find some way to ruin Viktor so G is free by default. It would be ironic if teaming up with Blake to burn it all down is the only way for G to ever be free of Viktor.

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It could simply be that whatever Blake ends up doing no matter what causes this, or something like this? Some big status quo shift, anyway. Maybe you can always have an impact based on how your MC reacts, since Blake insists on making it about the MC to some extent (and the MC should have an impact on the main storyline imo, especially in a story like this where the MC is at the mercy of several forces outside of their control at any given time).

But this might be building to something for the main BOTB storyline that in turn has an impact on Heavenly Isle Records/Viktor/etc.

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That, sadly flips Blake too, since they flip with G. I might do it if a decent ending with Dakota turns out to be possible though I’d have to go slightly against character and have my mc slip up (probably from the stress) and get drunk enough at that party to not only not avoid Dakota but hook up with him. Possible, since he used to be more of a party boy in the Seven days, but less plausible than the current points of entry to start the Blake or G romances.

My romance priority is currently, (always guys only as my mc is gay) Griffin->Blake->Dakota. Where Griffin and Blake could flip once we know what endings are possible for both however since Blake will get only one ending that is more likely to be on the bad than the good side G is still my mc’s most probable headcanon main romance. Not feeling Orion or Seb at the moment and I always make Seven female.

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The MC turning G into a starstruck teenager makes me feel like they are pretty close to G’s singing talent. How else would someone draw out such a reaction from the best singer in the world?

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That’s exactly why I can’t see the MC really having an impact on much of anything, except who they romance, and even then, the ROs and outside forces are the ones with the control as to where it goes. The MC isn’t able to affect anything–they’re the ones who have things happening to them. Maybe that will change (we’re only on chapter 3), but things are getting worse for the MC already, and given the “leaked” video, things will get exponentially worse in chapter 4.

I mean, given that recent ask, maybe that’s the point of the game–to RP someone who can’t become more than what they are now, doesn’t get their dreams fulfilled, and even if they have a romance, they’re ultimately alone but okay with that. You’re a nobody in an industry that chews people up and spits them out on a regular basis, in way over your head, getting used and exploited by pretty much everyone, and are the butt of the narrative’s cruel jokes. But, in the end, you survive all of it–the torrential downpour of cruelty and pain, being hated by pretty much everyone, loving and losing, or even winning and still losing–and you’re stronger for it. Not a happy ending, but a kind of empowering one, nonetheless.

Yeah. I had thought about doing a Blake run, but don’t see the point. I’ll read the code, like I’m doing for August. I’m not wasting a good OC name, personality, and history on a subromance with a shit ending.

I wouldn’t count on that. Dakota is out of MC’s league, so I figure the forced end won’t be good. I figure all the subromances except maybe L will have bad endings, and we’ll probably see L maybe once or twice more throughout the whole game.

Mine are only guys, too. My main MC is going Griffin (and that will be a shitshow, I’m sure). I have another for Orion (I think you should give him a chance–I think it might turn out to be the best of the romances, since Orion already cares about the MC and sees them as a person, instead of a thing to play with or abuse). I’ve got another MC for Seven, simply because I want to see just how horribly it turns out. I’ve made her professional and tough, but inside she’s mush and is just broken. She knows she can never have Seven back entirely, but is willing to suffer for whatever crumbs he gives in his path. She also knows he will always value Avina more than her, even if he ever has feelings for her again. So she’s prepared–she figures it will make for good music, even if it slowly kills her. Someone can get rich off of it after she’s dead and gone.

I’m with you on Seb, though. Just not my type and not worth making a MC for. Too blushy and subby acting. And lol about Seven–I make Seven female on every run but my 7-mancer, and it has helped my main MC so freaking much. She’s still depressed, but it’s because she sees 7 succeeding while she’s struggling instead of her being sad for losing her ex. She still lost her snarkyness and is all business now, but with G, that smartass side of her comes out. It’s fun to play and to see her like that, at least for the moments it lasts before something else in the narrative comes along to rofflestomp her.

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This right here reminds me of Dragon Age 2; the protag is nobody, from nowhere, who ultimately accomplishes very little themselves, no matter how hard they push, constantly at the mercy of circumstance and still, for ten years, they build a life for themselves with their friends and family. They lose everything by the end. I loved that, honestly. Could love it here, too, if that’s ultimately where this goes.

Still, the ultimate climax of DA2 (a devastating act of terrorism) happens regardless of what the player attempts to do about it. I think a big status quo shift is still possible here as well, even in a game where we don’t have agency in a typical way. Which was really what I was getting at earlier, I guess.

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Hawke actually achieved shit, though. They restored their family name, they killed Arishok or convinced him to back down, they routinely kill scariest monsters and get engaged in the matters that would make the blood of others run cold, they are the crux mages either build their movement upon or vehemently decry, their LIs often discover their ability to love with them alone…

I never really got the loser vibe from Hawke. If anything, it’s any Warden who’s either elf or a mage - imagine asking for Circle independence or Dalish lands and getting punted in return once it’s time to drop the nice act.

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I really wish we had an option to start the game with our MC not being a fan of G and MA at all. It sounds like they’re past the saturation point, like Beyonce and Taylor Swift. You can’t stand either one of them, but they’re so present you know at least three songs from each kind of territory. All your friends listen to them, so you know their music by osmosis. That would be a nice option to have as a player, rather than all the after-the-fact “I’m not impressed/never meet your heroes” kind of thing you have to choose now. Those choices still start you out with a favourable view of G and MA.

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I mean of course this is literally true, but the Ls Hawke takes are deeply significant, particularly at the end of each act and at the very end of the game, and that what I was referencing. Though, I am very much team: Hawke never even spoke to the Arishok :laughing: Varric is telling lies.

To bring this back to Infamous, though, I’d say that this can also be the case for this game. Like Hawke: the Infamous MC can certainly build meaningful relationships and have the occasional big win (we are playing a game based around a competition), all while simultaneously struggling against forces that are just a bit bigger than they are. No idea if this is what’s in store, of course, just thinking about it. This could all be totally off base.

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Ah, love the fact that I’m the only one happily (moreorless) romancing Seb lmao /lh :joy:

(Oh and the other guys + August cause they’re pretty neat imo)

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I could see, like with Blake, a glass half full ending there. Dakota probably won’t ever not cheat, unless mc outright agrees to an open relationship but mc could be the one he always comes back to in the end. Yes, it probably means becoming a kept man/woman and yes it means often picking up the pieces of his other romances and it is up to the mc to decide if love and the strong emotional connection is worth it in the end.

I’d still much prefer my ideal ending of ending up as Blake’s songwriter husband though. Wish Blake were a main ro and switched with Seb then the bittersweet, or for mc’s like mine who don’t care about their own fame and would, as far as singing goes, be contend enough just to sing covers (including of the songs they write for others) and some of their old songs on Youtube or the equivalent, it would be a mostly sweet ending. I do very much doubt the one forced ending to Blake’s sub romance would look anything like that tho.

It’s that shitshow which worries me, from Griffin’s pov’s it seems to get an ending where he respects the mc would require the mc to go for some sort of fame, which mine is starting to sour more and more on. But currently any sort of fame ending seems mutually exclusive with romancing G solo as that requires mc to homewreck ValenReign or at least take the public fall for it even if by also befriending V we can make G and V split amicably in reality but that likely won’t ever be the version of reality the fans will believe or Viktor will push. :worried:

While that is true, from choosing the open crush way back when it seems while O might care he also seems to see the mc as a kid to be mentored and acts as awkwardly as most teachers when they discover a high school senior (who could be a technical adult) has a crush on them.
At least that is what O currently feels like to me, having an awkward crush on teacher even if said teacher really does care.

I get your reasoning but for me currently with every update and pov Blake seems to get more and more attractive as a romance particularly if he is the other nerd, excepting Seb. Ugh, I really do like the fit and sexy nerd type…enough of my mc’s in other games fit that archetype themselves. “Mens sana in corpore sano” , right? :wink:

They accomplish more than the Inquisitor, that is the one DA protag who really gets the shit ending.

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Well in my playthrough, Male MC Male 7 Avina was often referred to as they, sometimes she, and they/she acted more like a friend than a Lover, as far as I realized

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