Hong Kong Blood Opera Updated 21st of July

Jesus, that sounds like an entire game by itself already :flushed:

I spent a long time dreaming it up. Actually coding it only took about four or five hours once I worked out how it was going to work.

The problem I have now is how do I know if the election code is returning the correct results?

I was concerned about the screenshot you shared with me that showed that Lok was very popular but that he was also eliminated. I think this could be a bug which is eliminating the two most popular candidates after the elimination round instead of the two least popular candidates.

Based on your screenshot, Fong and Sister Ting should have been eliminated in the first round of voting (bad news for writers arc players!).

This may need a “breaking the fourth wall” kludge in playtesting where I show candidate popularity again a second time before the elimination round along with instructions for the playtesters so they can spot and flag election results that are incorrect.

Thank you so much for your feedback again @Aoyama_Blue_Mountain.

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I started a new game on a different phone cause it had sounded like i had missed some Sister Ting scenes soo i grinded a new game :clown_face:

Besides the fact that every choice with her is like minesweeper :joy::sob: would be impossible to have what i think is high relationship% with her, without the save slots
Am i enjoying seeing the different scenes cause of save slots: yes
am i dum: also yes

Unsure if this has been pointed out already but,
I’ve hit a loop. I chose the Sister Ting event/route thing first and then on the other choices i end up in that dialogue scene start again, but 1 choice is missing (the one i chose first).

Buncha screenshots


^^^^^ Vincent choice leading to loop


^^^^ showing the forced loop with 1 choice removed (I forget what the choice was)


^^^^^ Parrot choice leading to the loop .has the only one ive seen with the [xxx] and an explanation of it, ive seen it a few times elsewhere but dont remember where


^^^^ Mantis loop start


^^^^^ meeting selection loop start

I guess technically can break out of the loop because i did the 2nd round of Sister Tings meeting and failed it, seemed to let me progress further on this save but i didnt continue

That’s good to know. It’s hard to gauge difficulty when you are in the middle of writing and coding a 700k project. Plus I like to make things complicated.

Thanks for pointing out the loop. I want to fix that before finishing chapter 15. While I’m back there I might make some election popularity tweaks.

P.S. I don’t think you’re dum. I appreciate all your hard work. I know what it’s like to grind through a massive project.

I wanted to relate a funny story.

@Aoyama_Blue_Mountain reported a loop bug in chapter 12. I indentified it and fixed it, didn’t take me that long.

So far so good I thought. I can spend the weekend finishing chapter 15 so I can update the game before the weekend is up.

No such luck.

Fixing the loop bug in chapter 12 revealed dozens of new bugs. It turns out there was an absolute hornets nest, heck a cluster of hornets nests being skipped over by the loop bug.

So there won’t be an update the chapter 15 this weekend. The good news is that when I get this sorted Chapter 12 will be very different.

I’ve also updated the Macau Job arc giving players the option to recruit Lupe a new member to the heist crew.

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Well it took me 8 days but I fixed all the bugs in chapter 12. This has uncovered a lot of new material that playtesters haven’t seen before.

I also wrote additional scenes namely with Baiyu, the Triad Civil War, Sister Ting and Lupe (someone you can recruit for the Macau Job).

Hope you like it. More updates to come soon.

Thank you all for your feedback and continued support.

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Start of ch12 on the newer playthrough, I’ve tried like 4 different combos of the 2 total choice sections and end up with this

Turns out both phones/playthroughs hit that error

Error screenshot/spoiler

Prefacing the entire brain dumps down there with: i know bugs were worked out and some quirks were fixed ect. Some of the things ive experienced were before this update
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Im playing 2 save files on 2 “different” phones “at the same time/back to back/within 1-2 hours” right now, chasing what i think was a bug on one phone with a “different” phone’s savefile to check ive forgotten what i was looking for soo nvm ^

This “issue” i am unsure of and not expecting ya to have insight on at all cause could be a dashington thing. But as someone who doesnt know much im guessing when the game is updated/edited and uploaded on dashinton; it should play fine/basically the same for everyone for the most part. If you load a save it should be updated/going off of the current iteration if not when you get to the next chapter maybe?

But on my old/ancient phone if i load a save it continues on from that previous non updated story and i can hit the same issue that im pretty sure doesnt happen in the current/newer updates that has been done

On my “slightly” older save and newer phone but still recent enough; the story/lines/plot i can tell have been updated with the new stuff but its a tad more buggy as a whole. Im pretty sure some of my save file points straight disappeared/are now empty (saves from the earlier chapters, i still had a near ch11 one that worked).
Normally if your save file doesn’t work anymore it would have a bunch of words in the box with some words on the matter but this time they are just empty. Loading my “start of” or “somewhere in” chapter 9 save file sends me all the way back to chapter 1, pretty sure I hadn’t mislabeled the save name but that was kinda weird

Should a brand new playthrough as in start date (not because of the choices); really be that noticibly different on dashington?

This is the same point in the story but for some reason its missing the Sister Ting choice: (i doubt this playthrough is too low for that selection if its a hidden one, is it a hidden one?)

screenshot, slightly older "save file?" on newer phone

screenshot, newer playthrough "different" phone

Am i perhaps just having enough for these choices that are hidden on one of the phones to show up? Or is it that I’ve kind of fallen into a path, which is the reason why it shows up

Newest playthrough same point

Slightly older playthrough same point

Ive come to the conclusion or atleast this is what im telling myself: There are ALOT of hidden stat-check selections throughout the entire game and that it isnt bugs/glitches

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There are a lot of hidden stat checks in the game. The new Sister Ting romance scene in Chapter 12 is a pinball machine.

The 12 line 205 crash tells me something. Line 205 only has one purpose and that is to intentionaly crash the game if a certain variable has a value of “null”. Line 205 didn’t get triggered in 10,000 randomtest playthroughs so I don’t think it’s an issue anymore. But I didn’t remove it.

However in your save games that variable had a value of null. It was probably specified in an earlier chapter or in the startup file when you fired up that game. So line 205 got triggered and crashed your game. Sorry that happened but it’s also useful information for me.

I’m posting a fix for that so you can continue playing. However your save games might fall afoul of other lines of code like that.

I’ve made a lot of changes to the game and Hong Kong Blood Opera is fairly complex. There’s 83,000 words of code, I’m not sure if that’s an unusualy high amount.

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Just letting you know that after a long hiatus I am back working on the end of the game. It’s been hard this past year. I started a new job working for a software engineering company that overflows into my personal life.

But hoping to update the game soon that plays to the end.

Thanks again to everyone who has given feedback over the years. I really appreciate it.

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I’m excited to see more from you keep up the good work :+1:t2:

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I messed up and read it as King Kong blood opera. I never knew how much I wanted that.

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I would name my next kid/cat/critter after anyone who created a King Kong Blood Opera

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I’m not starting over… again.

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this is happening when clicking on the “show stats” button

Thank you for spotting that. I fixed it.

There should be a major update soon too.

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Kinda off/on topic

There’s gonna be a “Hong Kong Island” open world racing game on steam possibly coming out in the fall: “Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown”

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Thank you kindly for thinking of me I really appreciate that.

I’ve been beavering away again. A bit difficult with the new job to write as much as I used to do but I think I am a week away from finishing the Spin arc. So there should be an update in about two weeks.

Have a great day.

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I’m having a lot of fun playing! Though I noticed I never got a screen to input a name? So everyone just calls me “Name” haha. I’m not sure if this is a bug or on purpose, but it definitely threw off the immersion.

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Is your pronoun “they” I think I spotted this bug and fixed it but it won’t be reflected in your savegame as the name variable has already been set incorrectly. Also the bug fix isn’t yet “live” in the demo version.

Thank you for your kind words and your feedback. They’re much appreciated.

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