What if you had twins but one looks like Lancelot and the other looks exactly like Arthur!!! 
itās rare but what if! Thatād be so trippy
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I think there are far more serious grounds for some Guens to dislike Arthur and many of those reasons are summarized by:
There is a missing word in a paragraph describing the issue of an heir to the Throne in Book 2.
Arthur has brought up the issue of an heir more than once, but heās respected my wishes. He does visit my bedroom sometimes just so the servants wonāt talk, but all we do is sleep. We donāt have as much time alone together as one might expect. Running a kingdom means a lot of travel, whether itās for battles or royal visits. Sometimes we travel together, but more often than not, weāre needed in different places.
Every now and then, I overhear servants talking about how we donāt have an heir yet, but they generally attribute it the amount of time weāre apart.
I think it should be attribute it to the.
@jeantown I was thinking about the choices offered when Arthur asks Guen if she has an old dress she would be willing to give up. My Guen feels that she has lost so much without ever having had a say in it because of Arthur that she initially would be tempted to refuse automatically, but upon reflection there is a dress she would be content to have torn to shreds by sheep at Arthurās suggestionā¦ my Guen would be only too happy (or as close as she can manage near Arthur) to watch her so-called āweddingā dress be ripped apart and eaten. Considering that the next page settles the matter without involving Guenās choice, Guenās response to Arthurās question could be an easy way to further develop her personality.
I would like to thank @Lys for sharing a beautiful song by Heather Dale. I had heard some of Heather Daleās music before but @Lys inspired me to listen to even more and I found another song I now love and which I think is also relevant to this game and Guen if she marries her true love.
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Thing child is they both need have iy there huge pressure to have heir. No what happen when there no clear Heir during time period semi trying simulate. Civil war a lot people people that do not have to die. Now during this time Breton was werid combo between the roman Briton who generations Roman legionnaires intermarrying with the local population. An intern eventually christianizing major of local tribes native Breton population by this point. This sadly miss opportunity here you could have represented the Welsh Celtic church. Which was a weird combination of Latin rite with Breton mythology and culture. Today would have called and folk Catholicism. Now thereās this weird religious angle was also going on during this time period because the Saxons the first came as mercenaries later on Invaders were of the Germanic Nordic faith. the britons had particular right of inheritance and as well as the working of kingship so yes there is huge pressure to have an heir. Even during this. Of time when itās heritance laws are a bit more fluid it could still be too open conflict of elections in the votes donāt go as planned. Aurther is the Pendragon which is a very weird position he was like first among equals of the king they pay them some form of tax and land and recognized his might but still acted independently. He was the head priest of sorts well heās back in the old Celtic tradition but his vital role was that of Warlord for all the other kings to follow. And if he doesnāt have a strong ready successor of his blood when he passes away minimally theyāre going to lose their claimed of overlord over Beton king worst if there clear Heir one of there rivals may conquer then during this movement weakness or worst one of the saxon kings.
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@Lys Yay Heather Dale! Always inspirational for Guen-writing. 
Haha, maybe someone will write that as a fanficā¦ 
I wish I could make things that complicated in the game.
@Norilinde Thank you for catching the typo! I corrected it locally, so it should be fixed with the next update. And offering the wedding dress to be eaten by sheep would make for an interesting option! Iāll think about it.
@Rogar The historical fifth century certainly was an interesting time in Britain! Guenevere is, of course, a fantasy story, and not meant to be reflective of actual history. (You might want to take a look at the in-game notes on historical āaccuracy,ā which you can access from the menu screen.) For this fantasy story, Iāve decided to use fantasy religions instead of ārealā-world religions.
Sounds like maybe you have your own Arthur story brewing in your mind! Thatās the wonderful thing about this mythos; it can be adapted in infinite ways. I made a deliberate decision not to include Christianity in my version, but you can write one that deals with those topics!
But yes, there is a lot of pressure for Arthur to have an heir, and a lot of risk of upheaval if he dies without one. If Guen doesnāt want to have a child with him, he will designate Gawain as his heir, but everyone knows thatās a potentially dangerous situation.
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@jeantown I read the end of the year report thing, and while it was too vague to tell if youāre having a personal issue or if your fears for the future are the ones shared by every sane American (BTW, that post seriously interrupted my pretending like this isnāt happening), either way I send you lots of virtual hugs and hopes that the future is not as bad as it seems. 
And though that emoticon may look like itās cheerfully about to punch you in the face with its clenched little fists, I promise itās the one thatās supposed to represent hugs! 
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@buggygirl11 Oh, gosh, sorry for being overly dramatic ā no serious personal issues! Mostly just fears over the general state of the world and the cost of fighting for a better one. I do have real hope for the future, but that doesnāt mean I think things are going to be easy. (Maybe I took Rogue One a little too much to heart.)
Virtual hugs and a happy new year to you and to everyone else here! Thank you all for supporting me even though itās been sooooo very long between updates. I should have said this in my blog post: yāall are the reason Iām still writing. And Iām going to keep writing, and someday, someday (good heavens it had better be this year already) there will finally be a massive update, and I canāt wait to share all of this writing with you. 
In the meantime, be well and have fun, and also, seriously, think about what you can do make the world better, even if itās something small.
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I thought it looked like a smiley face floating in the clouds until you described it that way.
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Talking about Arthurās naivete, I wonder how long it will take him to notice my Guenās affair with Morgana lol. Heās been quite sweet and understanding of her lack of romantic/sexual interest in him so my prediction is that even if heāll be a little disappointed perhaps, heāll want Guen to do what makes her happy, if she tells him/already told him that sheās only interested in women. (If she is interested in men, idk, as Iāve never played her that way. Maybe heād still take it that way; Iām not sure.) I do hope to get the option to tell him soon since I feel bad keeping it from him, but with so much going on I doubt thereāll even be a chance anytime soon, practically speaking. Though my Guen spends every possibly moment with Morgana and prioritizes protecting Morgana over everything/everyone including herself; it really is true what she said in book I that nobody around seems to have any intuition. 
No, Arthur, weāre just gals beinā palsā¦ lol
Iām curious what kinds of Guens others have particularly enjoyed. Iād like to do more playthroughs to explore other possibilities, but Iām not sure what other kind of Guens would be the most fun to try. Usually in IF I do my first playthrough as much like myself as possible (and I was extremely pleased with how possible it was here!) and then my second as the complete opposite of myself. But I canāt do the opposite of myself here because I canāt bring myself to actually be mean to anybody! And Iām so protective over Morgana and have so many feelings about/for her, and am so attached to her, that I donāt know if I can even make myself romance anybody else. So on second thought maybe Iāll only do playthroughs with her mostly the way I had her all along 
but I would love to hear about othersā.
I already said my stats over a tumblr message (this is ****ingāgorgeous) so I wonāt paste them here. Since I asked about other possibilities I guess Iāll give the summary, which is that Guenās primarily focus was on being kind to everyone but Morgana especially. 
Iām a very character- and relationship-oriented (not only romantic mind you) person so I could go on about the characters and my Guenās relationship with them (+ the amazing extent of choices possible) but I think Iāve already rambled quite a bit so Iāll leave it here for now.
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My Guen was dragged kicking and screaming into the marriage and is deeply resentful of it. She doesnāt hate Arthur per sae, but sheās cold towards him and his naivety aggravates her to no end. Sheās decided to make the best of a bad situation, but is not interested in a romantic or physical relationship with him. She dislikes Lancelot for his improper behaviour towards her, but like your Guen has a soft spot for Morriganā¦ and by āsoft spotā I mean Morās melted a hole right to the core of my Guenās icy heart.
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@baranouta Thanks again for the tumblr messages and for describing your Guen here! The thread is understandably quiet at the moment, because itās been so very very long since the last update, but if you read back through it, you will find tons of descriptions of very different Guens.
Yep, itās all in how you tell him.
Lancelot will figure it out eventually even if nobody tells him, but yeah, Arthurā¦ probably not so much.
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Iāve been lurking about for a couple of months or so and finally decided to make an account. I think Guenevere was the first, or one of the first, games I played and it really set the standards for the rest! Your attention to detail is amazing (I love discovering new scenes despite having replayed the game many times) and I love love love how you can really customise your character. I tend to play a sort of Catelyn Stark duty-and-family sort of persona and itās great how Guenevere lets me do that without having to make any out of character decisions. I straddle the line between Guen & Lance becoming friends w/ no romance or having Guen compromise her values and begin a relationship w/ Lance, but again, I love having the varied choices.
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(I canāt figure out how to quote properlyā¦ I am so good at technologyā¦ lol)
@Asura I love it! Especially the last part; thatās adorable.
I like the idea to have her more resentful ā I may try that! Maybe then I could try the aloof thing without feeling guilty. 
(Because itās quite different to me if her motivation is upset over an unjust situation compared to if it was just plain apathy toward those around her or something.)
@jeantown Ah, I didnāt know that (presently quiet thread). Iāll have to go read through the older replies sometime! (I started to, but there are a lot of them lol.) Anyway but really Iām glad to be able to help! This is really an amazing story not to mention an ambitious project, so I admire and appreciate that.
As for Lancelot eventually figuring it out and Arthur probably not, I suspected that might be the case lol. I had to laugh when Arthur runs after one of the fake Guens like āI know itās this one!āā¦ but in his defense I imagine it would be pretty hard to figure out without having some sort of magic. Though if you donāt mind my asking out of curiosity, is that influenced by his trust stat? I always get curious about hidden skill checks and stuff, though naturally I would understand if you donāt want to give that away. I always wonder about different possible outcomes so Iāll probably play that scene a few more times with different stats. (I want to try it with higher leadership because I think thereās a check there I failed since my leadership was super low, and also I really want to try stabbing Meligaunt with the carrotā¦ just to see what happens lol.) ā¦As you can tell Iām a huge nerd, yes.
Iām curious what Lancelotās reaction will be, although Iām sure thatāll depend on a bunch of factors. (As with everything else. I canāt even begin to imagine how many big and small things you have to take into account with this story!) I remember at one point the option came up to tell him Iām having an affair with Morgana but I was like āmaybe letās not tell my husbandās best friend about that just yetā lol. (Though thinking about it now, Iām curious how Lot will take it assuming he finds out eventuallyā¦ He doesnāt sound quite as, uh, understanding as Arthur. 
)
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Re: DoppelGuens and Arthurās trust statā¦ no. My main Guen is in a relationship with him, they woke up in the same bed, and he still ran off after a fake. It makes sense in an Arthur logic kind of way. āMust save all Guens. This Guen safe. That Guen not safe. Charge!ā
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Hey everybody, Iām currently sitting in an airport on my way to Southeast Asiaā¦ so I have no idea how active Iāll be here for the next couple weeksā¦ depends on what kind of wifi I can getā¦ but Iāll check in when I can!
@stuck_in_bed Thank you for delurking, and Iām so happy to hear youāve been enjoying the game! I always hope that at least some readers will feel a little torn between romancing Lancelot or not (and, of course, you CAN sort of have it both ways by playing more than once! ) I hope to make the Lancelot relationship options even more varied as time passes, so you should have lots of different ways to * ahem * handle him, including options for including Arthur in said handling, more or less.
@baranouta Yeah, the incredible thing is how many people do still chime in with support even though itās been two and a half years since the last major update. (Donāt worry, you should not have to wait that longā¦ I really am hoping to get the second half of part two up this year, and I expect things to move more quickly after that.) Iām always glad to answer questions about hidden stats and checks! As @bobsmyuncle says, Arthur does run out into the courtyard regardless of trust score. And if you like replaying to see different options, do try telling Lancelot youāre involved with Morganaā¦ it doesnāt change anything important at this point, but youāl get to see him react, at least. (Well, it can change things in the sense that if Guen is trying to have sex with Lance and tells him sheās involved with Morgana, heāll back off.) As for Lotā¦ well, wait and see what happens with himā¦
@bobsmyuncle Arthur logic exactly.
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Wow that was so good!
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You know I would let my arranged wife be a lesbian too but if I was a king I would be like love youāre going to have to go and think of England at least once. An Arthur can be the nicest guy in the world. I can bet money that she said heās perfectly happy just being a friend to his wife if sheās not sexually interested in him. But hw is the king of the end of the day and she is his Queen like not. And thereās more than just social pressures there is huge political pressures to have an heir, itās part of both part of their responsibility for the offices. So how will everyoneās favorite is not tolerated kind-hearted High King can handle this.
I take it that Lot will not be a happy man.
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True, and Arthur will bring up the political pressure to have an heir even if Guen is gay or ace. But if she says no, he accepts that no. Itās one of the things that I seriously love about his character, and Jeanās version of this story.
But yes there are obviously going to be plot complications if Gawain is the heir when Mordred shows up. Mordred might be able to snag more support since people apparently hella care about the Pendragon bloodline because of magical properties or something.
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- adopt child
- raise as own child
- no one needs to know
- no one can find out
- ???
- profit
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I doubt that will work since I sure four important people will know 
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