Guenevere (WIP)

The bane of content creators everywhere :smiley: Consumers can consume content far faster than the creators can create it.

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Yay I’m back! Well… not for long… but I love all the new stuff you added :wink:
But at least there are more people reading the beta, which in turn will give you some more money when you release it.

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Honestly, you could write Morgana’s grocery shopping list and I would probably cry about it for the rest of my days. :persevere:

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Me, to my 15 year old Guenevere part 1 super excited self: hang in there, grasshopper.

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I just am so excited for the second half of part two. I just want a reunion! Can I take Arthur, Lance, Guen, and Morgana and lock them up in a room together to never, ever leave all for my amusement? No? Damn. Okay, obviously I want them there for more then just my amusement. It’s to keep them safe from…giants and vengeful sorcerer queens. But honestly I’m really pleased with all of the updates so far even if they’re about how long and complicated some of the branches have become because that means even more content to read through and live on what will doubtless be a billion play throughs. So yeah, well worth it! :slight_smile:

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Can we go with Lance to a branch and get to succeed at all three of them?? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: it would be some Daenerys Targaryen kind of thing

No jean has said you can’t win in all branches more if you go with Barbie. Well except maybe I can… Because i want a civil war and Arthur get hurt and my Meliagunt has been cured by my girl …

@LordOfLA No kidding… and I guarantee that the day after I finally update part 2, someone is going to message me on tumblr asking if part 3 is almost finished. :slight_smile: (But I can’t be too annoyed, since that means they like what I’m doing.)

@fairlyfairfighter :smile: Welcome back and glad you like the new(ish/er) things! Nice to see you!

Next time I hit a writing block, I will write a shopping list for Morgana. :relaxed:

Haha, the rest of part 2 will sadly not provide much opportunity to have them all in the same place, but you can spend almost all of part 3 with them locked up in an enchanted forest together. :grin: I can’t wait to write that.

Not 100%, assuming that by ā€œsucceedā€ you mean get the most difficult outcomes (Mara will be able to get her desired outcomes more easily, as she says). But I think, the way it’s working out, you might be able to come close, depending on where Morgana ends up and a few other factors. And as things have developed, there’s sort of a ā€œsecond bestā€ possible outcome for each branch (for example, the dispute between Grimald and Radagund can be settled, and war with Frankmarch can be averted, but Britain doesn’t get a formal trade agreement with them.) I think (???) you might be able to achieve those even if you take Lance with you. There are so many variables involved that I won’t know for sure until lots of people have had a chance to play it.

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It’s all good though. The replay-ability in this game is what, I think, makes it a gazillion times more amazing; you can play it, and play it, and play it, and play it… Because there are so many interesting choices to make!

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Wasn’t that the main draw of the sims games?

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Now I have an image of them swimming in the moat, and removing the ladder…

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I have a question for everyone:

If this were The Sims (either the regular version or Medieval), what traits would y’all assign each character?

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I’m assuming then you mean Sims 3?

Well, Guen would change dependent on characterization.

Morgana would definitely be a witch, and she’d probably be a loner. Arthur would be good, and in Medieval, he’d be king, while Lance would be knight equivalent, and chivalrous…and licentious. XD

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Goods outcomes for my Guen would be, in priority:

  1. Be the hero of Camelot, successfully stopping the invasion and getting the soldiers to love me more because of it, also the common people worshiping my ass.

  2. Get Lance to work something out in Frankmarch with as little bloodshed as possible.

  3. Arthur leaving Michaelsmount safe & sound. (Preferably with the sword but we know that’s not gonna happen) Edit: I wouldn’t be opposed to him being a little wounded so he can always remember to stop being stupid.

Last but not least: Morgana ending up in Camelot so we can kick ass together like the one true pairing we truly are. :blush:

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My Guen would be similar, but for entirely different reasons.

The only acceptable outcome for my Guen is for everyone to survive, but not because she finds their deaths unacceptable; the only one with whose death she would be truly distraught over is Morgana’s, owing to their love. No, the main, perhaps only reason my Guen needs everyone to survive is so that she can prove she’s clever enough to do it.

My Guen prizes herself on her intelligence; for all intents and purposes she’s a strategic and military genius, her intelligence is known throughout Camelot, and apparently even further than that. But that’s the reason why she involves herself so much; she takes on so much because she needs to prove that she’s clever, not because she genuinely cares about the gang.

I feel I should point out that she does care about the gang, she cares about all of them immensely, but even that fact of caring for them is emotionally difficult for her to handle; she doesn’t like to feel, she likes to think. She can’t be a strategic genius if she’s afraid to send people to their deaths.

That’s why she needs them to survive. Because Guen doesn’t see saving them all as preventing an injustice or even protecting those she holds dear; she would ultimately see it as winning. Being clever enough to win this massive game.

Guen’s personality will probably cause hella problems in the future, but up until this point, the gang don’t see this side of her; they see that she’s practically an emotional cripple and that she’s exceptionally clever, but they accept that as her personality; they even find it endearing in the way you would for a friend. But for the time being all of them have too much faith in her to see that her genuine values are much closer to the side of evil than good. She is ultimately good, she’ll never defer to the side of Mordred; but the fun part will be when the gang are genuinely unsure as to where her loyalties lie.

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Sims medieval would be more realistic, but I prefer Sims 4 myself.

I tried it once and gave Arthur the bro trait, cheerful & outgoing.

Lancelot was self-assured, romantic & active :soccer:

Oh wait! I think I made Morgana perfectionist, ambitious & family-orientated.

About Guen… That depends about how you play her. :smile:

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Thank you for considering other reactions.

I’ll admit I’m very curious about the additions you mentioned adding to Book 1.

Even when I tried having Arthur and Guen together, this Guen drew a distinction between whether she ended up happy with Arthur and those who had forced her into the ā€œmarriageā€. In her opinion, those who forced the ā€œmarriageā€ did not know and would not have cared if Guen ended up happy and this Guen would prefer to deal with them accordingly.

Thank you. This is just what I wanted to hear.

I am a bit concerned about how the kindness stat works. Even though my Guen’s second best skill is light magic (her strongest skill being dark magic which she studies in secret), the game shows her kindness as rather low. Her motivation for studying both light magic and dark magic is a fascination with all things fae. She would prefer her study of light magic add to her reputation for intelligence.

On the subject of my Guen, I’m not sure if it has already been done in the preceding 7000+ posts, but I would like to dedicate this song to my Guen.

My Guen would like a different response when speaking to Arthur after the first battle.

When Arthur sent my Guen to light the rocket during the first battle, she specifically asked him if he was doing that just to keep her safe. Sending someone who did not study warfare to judge timing in a battle was a flawed excuse anyway and Arthur denied that being his motive to her face. Then after the ambush, he admitted having done it just to keep her safe. In the case of my Guen, it would be hard though not impossible to make her any angrier than she already was, but being lied to so blatantly (after foreknowledge of an earlier attempt on her life had been concealed from her) would prompt my Guen to call out Arthur’s lies and omissions to his face.

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I am super in love, and super excited, and I love all the options, and ahhhhh!!! Tbh this was a big reason for signing up for these forums, to tell you how much I love your game (the other reason being my want to make my own game in Choicescript). I am very much in love with the concept (I love Arthurian legends and fairy tales. I love remakes/new versions of them even more) and am very excited to see what you do with it.

And very happy that sex =/= love in this game. Very, VERY happy.

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A lot of us would prefer that our actions have a different impact on our reputation, both in the game and in real life. :wink: Our actual motivations for something and what people think are our motivations are often two entirely different things.

I like your idea for a different reaction after the battle. You’re right; that was a pretty stupid decision on Arthur’s part and he really needs to be called out on it.

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I think I had just forgotten that the main contribution to reputation appears to be when you specifically select for what stats you wish to be known.

On a different note, I realize plot development probably renders it impossible, but when Sir Meligaunt is caught by Guen in her room, my Guen would prefer to order his immediate arrest and a search of his person. She already knows the sheep were under enchantment, she has heard the rumors of magic being seen on Meligaunt’s isle, and good intentions are not something she would attribute to someone who would attack a 13 year old. I realize he is an ambassador and Arthur would probably be stupid enough to countermand Guen, but nothing gives Meligaunt the right to be in the Royal Quarters and there are limits to even the protections being an ambassador conveys. Of course if Guen did order the arrest and search only to be countermanded by Arthur, Guen would have even more things to say to Arthur when they meet again after the kidnapping…

In my opinion, there needs to be a better plot explanation for why Guen and Morgana do not kill Meligaunt if they render him unconscious to take his spell components. I suggest that rather than cutting the ropes with a dagger, they use Meligaunt’s sword to cut the ropes and the sword resists being used to kill Meligaunt.

This has probably already been mentioned, but having played past the following page many times, I finally noticed a typo in it: [spoiler]

ā€œThe way I see it,ā€ she says, "You have three options. You can go home and ready your forces to hold off the invasion. If you leave right now, you should have just enough time to get there before our army does. I’d like to think that if our army sees yours ready to fight, they’ll hesitate, and maybe we can call them back before too much blood is shed on both sides. If that happens, Radagund won’t look completely incompetant.

That should be incompetent. [/spoiler]

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