[whines] I just want to tell her now! It breaks my heart that she only kept her feelings quiet out of fear of coming out 
Well what excuse does my male Ortega have (female MC), or the opposite?
Donât know, I never play hetero 
Did he mention anything?
All I remember playing is that Ortega seems very insistent on the term âfriendâ when referring to MC and Argent loves calling him out on it :))
Also. Does anyone remember how to leave a mental trap for Argent? Iâm having trouble accessing that option
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Iâm just saying⊠Itâs obviously not the only reason that lesbian Ortega wouldnât date your MC.
Yep, thinking I was dead was a big one too 
I honestly have no idea why Iâm so set on my character ending up with Ortega, sheâs not even my type lol
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You need to select the gentle option when you âhelpâ her with their Locus problem. Itâs the only way her mind trusts you enough to set it.
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Its the âYou canât have herâ syndrome
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The reasons MC never dated Ortega: MC doesnât share their feelings well⊠or at all really, MC needs to see a therapist for their multiple crippling disorders, MC died, MC knew that Ortega flirts with lots of people, Ortega is a huge flirt, Ortega is a closet bisexual.
You also need a high âSubtle Manipulationsâ⊠I think 70.
AKA falling for your straight best friend syndrome.
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I donât know about that, usually if thatâs the case she is at least my type, then begins the emotional meltdown and inevitable broken heart lol
Well @malinryden writes very compelling characters. I still think its the syndrome but we may have to see only after @malinryden writes up the "before Fallen hero prequel story - where we actually can be a young fit Sidestep with washboard tummy.
I donât want to get one of those rolly-polly tummies later in life ><
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Ortega had 500 significant others, but his bisexuality was still somehow a point of contention 
?
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I think Iâm so set on my character ending up with Ortega because:
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I think that he is one of the most well written romance characters (esp. since that argument scene in the park)
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He has so far been the only person to actively care about your well being (though that may be more of the MCâs fault since they donât really socialize)
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I think his mother was mentioned sometime in the game and Iâm kinda curious about meeting her. Does she has an already established relationship the the MC? (i.e. does she hate the MC? does she like them because her child clearly does?)
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With Steel going to be a potential romance character, I want to see some jealousy scenes even if itâs just him (and/or Ortega) becoming your friend instead of your boyfriend. Like:
Ortega: âIâve been trying to hang out with you for forever and you are hanging out with the guy that you used hate and literally couldnât stand being around?â
MC: âWell yeah we had or differences and he was kind of an ass, but I mainly didnât like being around him because the armor he always wore gave me a major headache. I didnât actually hate him or anything, I just didnât care about him as a person? âŠBut yeah heâs pretty cool I guess.â
Steel: âThanks.â
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Itâs mentioned that the PC used to be a welcome guest at Ortegaâs motherâs home before the whole heartbreak incident. For obvious reasons they havenât been in contact since.
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Ortega: [expression of dawning horror as she realizes why the MC passes out every time the Meat Puppet wakes up, and vice versa]
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Call me a downer, but I donât see a happy ending, especially an easy one, for the MC and Ortegaâs relationship. I wouldnât be surprised if said character gets killed off, which would be deliciously cruel to the reader, but in line with the downward spiral of the MC. There are a great amount of obstacles that would affect the relationship and long term outcome including the MCâs traumatic past, the psychological trauma for both parties due to the âHeartbreakâ incident, the betrayal that would arise upon learning about the MCâs turn to villainy and abuse of their powers, the loss of trust if the characters ever learn how the MC mightâve manipulated them, and Ortegaâs extensive surgical modifications, which in combo with the nanovores, might lead to a tragic accident.
Ortega has grown on me since my initial playthrough, though. But I think there are still some ulterior motives we have not learned yet about Ortegaâs reappearance in the dollâs and the MCâs lives.
After the crashing and burning, itâll be interesting to see whatâs left intact,if anything, among the wreckage of peopleâs emotional bonds.
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Another reason why Iâm rooting for Ortega.
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Literally same, my puppet kissed Ortega so I started the game over and made the frenchie take me instead. I just canât become my own love triangle AND his arch enemy all in one shot.
Ortega acts the same with both genders, donât they? I play hetero and remember him being pretty insistent on that in the argument at the park .
Shh donât give Malin any ideas ,pleaseâŠ
Btw does anyone have any idea what exactly transpired during the mass suicide at the hands of the telepath at the beginning?
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What? I meant for other peopleâs MCâs. I definitely donât care that heâs bisexual. My MC is a female, my puppet is a male, my Ortega is a male, and my doc is a womanâŠ
Youâre a downer mate 
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None that I can think of at the moment. But thatâs more because Iâm very distracted by the idea of Ortega returning MCâs feelings but also cannot go where MC is going so //clutches heart
Literally. Dating Catwoman trope until the last book where hopefully they can HAPPILY be together (alive and safe please)
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