Disliked Elements, Mechanics, and Tropes

Seto Andu sounds like the Anakin Skywalker of the Old Republic lol.

I think they put a lot more thought into what it’d be like to be a Light Sider in the Empire as opposed to what it’d be like to be a Dark Sider in the Republic because the Empire classes (well, except the Inquisitor) generally had at least some kind of acknowledgment of your alignment. The Agent gets a chance to become a double agent, and the Sith Warrior can essentially become a reformer with a Padawan who can see the light in people to help them.

The Jedi Order at least isn’t really built for that though, everything we know about them indicates they throw someone out immediately or demote them back to Padawan for the sake of reforming them if they start gleefully killing people for no reason. While things like the Jedi Consular and Knight’s stories are anti-climactic if you choose the dark side options.

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The only thing which really bothered me as Imperial Agent was the increasing number of walking security risks aboard my ship. :eyes:

If you’re going to give us mandatory, undismissable companions, please come up with either better backstories or better reasons for their presence. SWTOR had many problems with this (partly because some weren’t meant to be mandatory/undismissable).

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Them and the Smuggler crew, like damn. Country boy and wookie friend were one thing, you start the game with one and save the other from being enslaved to a Hutt (always morally correct), but the pirate girl who was working with Skavak literally just sets her feet and goes, “I’m coming with you whether you like it or not, so suck it,” and for some reason, my extremely mercenary Smuggler didn’t just blow her away right then and there? And then the wacko dropout padawan you pick up who’s, like, the antithesis of useful? Why’d I have to keep him around?

(Also I still think the Imperial Agent had the swankiest ship. Like damn, polished wood flooring? Boy, they must pay good in Imperial Intelligence.)

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I think the Whiskey-Four wip does this really well with the character Ulysses. They have kind of betrayed mc but you have the option to fight back, if you will, to them. So you don’t have to be really compliant as an mc.

Your part at the end about the bridge reminded me as mc and they reunite on one lmao

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The scene when I shot him again and his reaction to it. Delightful.

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Ulysses was the shit that kinda-somewhat fulfilled Jun-shaped hole in my heart, but he’s so far and in between, even flashbacks and PoV switches don’t help. I’d choose my yandere twink in a heartbeat, but when would I ever get to do so?

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Incidentally, ROs who practically never have screen time and who you have to jump through obscure hoops to get together with is also extremely annoying.

I don’t know if Ulysses is like that, per se, because I’ve never played Whisky-Four, but having recently played Never Date Werewolves again and only just discovering that there’s a third RO (rather than simply the two I thought there were) who you’re not allowed to hook up with until basically the end of the story and ONLY if you prioritize your job at the cost of all else, I’ve definitely experienced it head-on.

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Ulysses shows up somewhat late, but at least his flashbacks kind of fill the hole of his absence. First meeting is also nice, even if i messed it up… should’ve stayed with him, lacking an arm isn’t that much of a bother.

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I don’t think it applies to Ulysses, she gets a pov scene and flashbacks to her and MCs life earlier like every chapter till y’all meet up again. Plus we only played the demo where it ends when you’re with her.

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Tiny thing but I’m not a big fan of when an IF, book, or anything else really presents you with a premise and then immediately questions the legitimacy of their own premise in the description.

“This story’s about hunting a dragon that’s on the path to destroying the entire world! … But is it really?”

The fact that the question was included in the description at all means the answer is, of course; No. In which case I no longer know what the story’s even about because the inevitable twist could take it any number of directions.

Like I said though, it’s a tiny thing.

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I think this carries over from my uh… days reading early fanfiction. When descriptions and summaries were a bunch of questions about “will x happen? will y happen?”, it was almost a universal indicator of a newer writer. Some were decent reads but 99% of them… needed work and you could tell.

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I completely borked my first reply

Does give me flashbacks to the good ol’ FF dot net though, feel like I haven’t seen as much of that on Ao3, but maybe it varies from fandom to fandom

Still waiting on the straight up coffee shop slice of life, we’re getting close

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Ah, the “Surprise! You’re siblings!” plot twist is one trope that I hate with a passion. It has truly marred countless traditional novels in my eyes and has led me to dismiss romance books entirely, for my faith in authors has been greatly diminished. Therefore, you can imagine my dismay when I read War for the West. Lo and behold, the spymaster, who also happens to be a potential love interest, is revealed to be none other than your dear half-sibling… To say that my weariness knows no bounds is a gross understatement.

To my knowledge, this particular trope has only made its appearance in one instance within the realm of CoG/HG projects. However, one occurrence is more than enough to make me lose my trust.:confused:

Normally I’m in support for the inclusion of taboo themes in artistic works. I think they make for interesting narratives when written well. However, employing incest as a surprising revelation in the culmination of the main character’s romantic relationship evokes… something within me! Though I struggle to articulate the precise sentiment, just rest assured that my patience has been thoroughly tested.:expressionless:

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ngl i think incest is fine and all in fiction, I played a game the other day that has the MC’s cousin as one of the ROs and i already chose him as a main RO :face_with_peeking_eye:

but uh yeah… surprise incest is definitely a choice lmao. i would be pissed too.

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What if we go like full Oedipus and one defenestrate themself while the other self enucleates?

Also is it the just the incest being a surprise? Because we had the Pendragon game.

Now that I think about it the first time I dealt with incest in fiction was elfen lied. In which I was just wholly confused at my young age because my pairing lost to it.

I mostly see it in the context of asking completely expected plotline in xyz story. Will blah get over their tragic backstory or let darkness consume their heart, will love save the day or will they isolate themselves from the world. So rather than associating it with self spoiling, I kinda associate it with pretentiousness.

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Same here honestly. I’m literally a fan of Game of Thrones so it generally doesn’t phase me. I just wish I’d have gotten a warning before going into War for the West :sob:

Truly? I’ve never heard of that one. The only Arthurian game I’ve played is the one where you’re arranged to be married to a young Arthur (can’t remember the name of the game right now)

Oof. The first time I witnessed incest in fiction was in Vampire Knight… which is a pretty rough start. That anime was terrible🤣

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Yeah there’s a published Pendragon game, one of the ro’s is Morgan. So like anyone even a bit familiar with it would know from the get go

Honestly not a super bad start for me because the anime team also disagreed with the author and wanted the pair, but the anime didn’t finish the story so I looked up what happened.

Vampire Knight is like one of the anime I check out because of the title and immediately nopes out because I didn’t like the art.

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See also: Dragon’s Dogma.

Dragon attacks homeland and is hell-bent on destroying world → fight dragon → dragon drops a spite curse on the world as it dies → turns out dragon was deployed by God to destroy the world → ascend to heaven and punch out God → become new God with the intention of deploying further dragons to continue attempting to destroy the world → take God-killing sword and KYS in order to finally break the cycle.

Of course, the difference is that DD actually had the patience enough to wait until you’d already killed the dragon to suddenly reveal that punching out God was your true objective.

See also: one of the biggest memes of Fire Emblem: Fates.

“You can romance your big/little sisters/brothers! But it’s okay, you’re not actually related by blood! Oh, you’re also not related by blood to your other big/little sisters/brothers over in the other nation, so you can romance them, too!

The blue-haired songstress who you can romance is legit your cousin, though.”

Oh yeah, that game. I remember not liking it very much, so many things annoyed me about it that I just broke away from proper Arthurian legend entirely and had my Pendragon just be all, “Why’d I come back to Britain, again? I’m going back to Rome, hell with this.”

Enter ng+ cycle and dragons dogma 2

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Talk to pretty ghost lady in hometown at midnight and travel to Hell Island where her old boyfriend is hanging out at the bottom and got turned into a turbo demon.

I’m talking about Bitterblack Isle from the Dark Arisen DLC, for anybody who missed that