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I agree that feline radial hypoplasia is a harmful defect unlike polydactyly which is benign. Usually you can tell the difference as hypoplasia has a distinctive appearance.

Nature doesn’t keep things simple. It complicates as mutations build up over generations. Humans are extremely poor hunters compared to cats. We also have long childhoods during which we are likely to get ourselves killed without constant supervision. Our big brains are our only advantage and those don’t really kick in until well over a decade after even the clumsiest cat, polydactl or otherwise, is capable of feeding him or herself.

See: feral children for reason one why this is taught and not innate.

I’m honestly too tired to respond to all of this. You know more, you become Havie’s editor. Please take the mantle with my blessing.

This is really interesting discussion to follow up I don’t particularly participate as I am more interested in sociology and culture laws that in biology. And due to the fact they want in force through coercion the change means they are human beings.

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There’s a reason we’ve been calling them Abhumans. :slight_smile:

Not at all – the soul (“anima” or “psuche”) is the classical label for what distinguishes animate from non-animate things, but any materialist in any era would attribute that to material causes. Epicurus taught that the soul was made of atoms and the Stoics taught that it was corporeal and mortal (though not always dying at the exact same time as the body). In the early modern period on which XoR is modelled, there were plenty of materialists writing about the material soul.

I was remiss to leave them out. The oldest Gara’u focus on creatures native to the deep rainforests: tiger, bear, ape, giant river otter, and leopard. The youngest Gara’u, those of the savanna and desert, include catamount, cheetah, jackal, painted wolf, desert sheep, pygmy elephant, antelope, and buffalo.

I’ll leave the polydactyl debate to those who have a grasp on it. :slight_smile:

Definitely not. There’s a common core, but loads of the rest vary by clan–as well as by specific useful borrowings from non-clan animals.

At the risk of inviting more snark from Laguz about cis genital obsessions: as you’re changing your whole body around, relocating, re-angling, and resizing the genitalia can take a toll on their reproductive function, and it takes a particularly significant additional amount of planning and work as you Change to make sure you’ve left room in your changed body to gestate a child and pass it through a working birth canal. A lot of Abhumans don’t bother, especially if they already have young.

Yes, some do change to make multiple births much more likely. But in general they have a much, much smaller population than the nations to the north.

Seracca only change themselves, not others. That said, if a Seracca never wanted to change themselves at all, they’d be seen as bizarre and immature, holding back from participation in the heart of society. They’d almost certainly be encouraged to go to the human kingdoms as an ambassador of some kind–a context where their refusal would be socially useful rather than eroding core norms.

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Oh… Cool, So We will meet one of those eternal children in our lands? I mean I will love to hear someone critical with all Seracca as I personally have not a positive view of people that their own obsession becomes something that is not themselves harming themselves to become animals. For that they could gouge out their own intelligence and that they will effectively become animals. Would the player consider the seracca change dangerous but still allowing it as a free individual choice.

As I see Mara doesn’t like it at all but considering it a perfectly valid philosophy and that both groups could live in harmony

My asexual mc would just go at them with questions from how does the change work to what pros and cons.
Meanwhile the rest of my MCs would just wonder whether or not we can breed.
Especially my aristo warrior that hopes that a child with them would make it better, faster, stronger, etc.

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This is exactly why we need to keep Abhumans away from cis people. This is exactly why you can catch me at the border beating your aristocrat warrior up with a carpet beater and 8 COM. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Me? Tea? You know not to whom you speak. I’ll cleave the boner off of your character. Monsters belong to the transes only.

It’s a good day when I learn something new. :smiley_cat:

o.O tiger gara’u… Do we meet any?

Sorry, but this doesn’t make sense to me. Maintaining the existing reproductive system strikes me as child’s play next to successfully modifying the incredibly delicate and sensitive internals of the eyes and ears inside a reshaped skull, all without causing brain damage. Someone who can do the latter should find it extremely easy to do the former. Honestly, I don’t even understand why it would take any real effort or energy. It was already all in there working as it was, and it’s not like the new same-sized body is going to keep it’s reproductive organs in a different part of its body if we’re sticking to hybrids of humans and real animals.

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Oh well, it’s time for my MC to take a short trip to the Abhuman Federation to ask about their unique stance on what constitutes the soul.

Erreza can go to Halassur, just give my MC the chance to learn from the shapeshifters. I am already thinking of using shapeshifting to cover larger distances than I could normally do.

As if the Shayardene-Abhuman border can be defended by you alone. Tough luck when you’re trying to block someone with 6 or more INT from crossing the border.

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I may not be able to STOP you from crossing the border, but on God, I will catch you when you stop to fuck, and I will kill you.

Actually, I may not be here by the time you’re available. There may be a Tellius remake, and I may already be there, and not here, but, I will be judging you. God, I hope I’m not here.

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But they don’t need to have babies? Then why don’t you want that they reproduce? I don’t get what is the problem with that if Some one goes there an fall in love. What I found nasty is the idea go there to fuck that sounds alarmingly like what Romans and many other tribes did go ransom and rape by force any women to make you tribe bigger.

That should, of course, be forbidden and anihilated. But have consensual relationships could be great for everyone.

Mara would certainly admit Seracca in her realm as equals even if she doesn’t believe same as them but I think both sides could help each other and trade and life in harmony. And like them not go killing people for blood Mara doesn’t consider their magic bad

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When trying to romance an RO but have 0 on every stat


Is the Fredel scene avoidable or do we always get it?

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Turning myself into a Satyr or a centaur sounds fun

Not possible.

Actually, well, possible, but you’d die shortly after. Enjoy.

Aieeh!!! It’s the attack of the werehorses, run for your lives people. :scream: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Note, the better human theurges also know how to do this, but the changes seem to react adversely to wards, which may be less of an issue if we’re dropping them.
On the other hand I do wonder if the Abhumans have a different and better way to go about it that doesn’t react with the wards? :thinking:

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That makes today a good day for us both, then. :slight_smile: Let me chew on what you’ve said about the implausibility of reproduction being extra tough to get right. And yes, you’ll definitely meet tiger Gara’u.

If you manage to get to that point without anyone being dead and the band on good rations, then Fedrel won’t sell you out.

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But they will never be as cool as the tiger laguz. Never as big. Never as… tank. Never as snoot. Goddamn.

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The point here is that a one year old cat is fully capable of hunting and reproducing. A one year old human can barely walk. I’m not saying that there isn’t utility in a shorter development time, but it isn’t everything or humans wouldn’t exist. And the difference in development time between polydactyl and non-polydactyl cats is fairly marginal in comparison to humans.

I don’t see why he can’t have multiple editors. You certainly know far more about trans and nb folk than I do and your personal experience with animals is probably broader than mine. I do have a degree in biochemistry however, with significant coursework in molecular and population genetics. I’ve also worked in a feline genetics lab, have been the guardian (I don’t like the word “owner”) of several cats over the past 30 years, and have been involved in a not insignificant amount of feral cat rescues.

I have a preference for felids so it won’t kill me if there are no were-horses. I was mostly just teasing Havie. But if there were-otters, why not were-horses too? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Yupyup , all good questions that our inquiring minds deserve to know the answers to…

Sounds good. :smile_cat:

Awesome! :heart_eyes_cat:

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Sorry, but I really don’t like being the person everybody and their friends come to when they need some info on being trans, and reducing that to one of my primary selling points makes me want to drive my very sharp combat knife straight into my temples.

Have fun, you two.