But the game keep telling me how attracted my character is to Brenden.
It is already bad when she is a woman, it would be worse with a man.
The MC isn’t forced to like Breden. She’s attractive, and starts the game interested in you; but you can have a wide range of responses to her, many of which will quickly put the relationship into collegial or hostile territory.
And yes, a non-bi MC has Breden or no one in Game 1. (Unless, as Taylor says, you interpret the initial “you couldn’t help noticing how attractive s/he was” as, for example, the way I inevitably recognize Channing Tatum as an attractive guy despite being straight myself). Other ROs will pop up in Game 2.
You’re entitled to gripe.
It’s no trouble to ask – but answering would be spoilers. 
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@Havenstone Hahaha brilliant answer, i will just have to wait then 
But the game will always assume my character is attracted to Brenden gender, so I cant really imagine this way.
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Well pick a male brendon and you can end up with a female ro later but now you know the feeling gay and lesbian feel having to play straight character’s.
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What a ridiculous answer.
Breden isn’t the only RO for a hetero male their are two other ones later on in the game.
Fair enough.
Remind me, have you come across text in the body of the story which says/strongly implies you’re attracted to Breden’s gender, or is it just in the choices you’re offered (to kiss, hook up, etc)?
Some readers have said they find it just about possible to read the MC as asexual (taking the “detached judgment” reading on Breden’s attractiveness). Those readers clearly are taking anything that appears in a choice more lightly – their character would never take that choice, but the mere fact that it shows up on the option list doesn’t change how they imagine their MC.
Anyway, if you clarify when Kala/Suzane appear that you’re attracted to women, you’ll get the same choice for any character thereafter. (And everyone will get the choice to be interested in the trans nonbinary Nyr who’s due to arrive next game).
No, it’s not. Of course, it doesn’t mean that you have to be happy that the game doesn’t give you an RO you like in a narrative frame you like – but it’s not a ridiculous thing to point out.
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If Brenden is a man, the game will give options like saying you were the lover of your cousin, because its think your character is attracted to man.
And its bull because what the “now you will now how homosexual players feel” have to do to what I’m saying?
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And yes, a non-bi MC has Breden or no one in Game 1.
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Why are you so scared about your caracter could have a feeling towards another male in the past. In fact you don’t have to choose having feelings for Hector. My character for instance hate him. You are sounding quite homophobic.
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It’s another case of what I like to call “entitled straight man syndrome”; see: Dragon Age Inquisition, for example.
If you like women but don’t like female Breden, tough luck? Straight men will get more ROs in other games.
[BREATHES HEAVILY] …now, now I am emotionally invested… my own kind… I love it… I await with high expectations…
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Scared? Lol.
So just because I want my character to have the same sexuality as mine I’m homophobic?
I never meant to cause a fight can we let the matter drop havenstone has already gave his answer.
One way of looking at that could be that your choice of preference is made multiple times. As long as you make it consistently, the story shouldn’t tell you anything inconsistent with your character (I think!), whatever it may ask you.
But of course, you’re free to decide that’s not how you want to read it. In which case, I can only agree that I’ve written a rebellion which is a pretty bad dating service.
It doesn’t mean that you have to stop asking for ROs that match your preference. And your defensive reaction doesn’t mean you’re homophobic.
But it’s neither ridiculous nor bull for vampierkid to riff on your comment by pointing out that in game after game, gay and lesbian players have to put up with, “the only romance for an LGBT person is a brat who you are forced to like [if they’re so lucky] or a heterosexual romance?”
The best response probably would have been, “Yes! I feel for them too. And Havenstone, as long as you’re writing genderflipping characters, why the hell haven’t you written them so that all of us can have a shot at Kalt and Suzane? (Cause the non-bi gay and lesbian MCs are also out of luck there).”
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@Havenstone: Been lurking around for a bit and after playing your game I just had to get off my lazy ass and say “wow” and also “please keep on writing because this is shaping up to be awesome”.
One thing I really liked with the Breden romance is how you integrated different reactions to an MC jumping the gun and kissing him/her at the first encounter depending on whether you’re a helot or a noble. I was really pleasantly suprised, added to the realism/immersion.
Now I’m really looking forward to seeing how my MC using religion to rally the troups is gonna come back to bite her in the ass.
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No the fact you are demanding every one of romances options being tailored specifically for your own sexuality. I am girl straight in real life. However because all games are written thinking in white straight male in mind, I ending being playing as lesbian in many gameplays because the male romantic option is TERRIBLE the typical bro macho males desire women love, but normally we don’t. So I choose Fem Breden even if Evil Gandhi is straight for now. Nothing in the text assume I am lesbian if I don’t choose that options so you are really really reading to much into this. That your character think other guy is pretty doesn’t make you gay lol.
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@LtRipley, glad you’re enjoying it!
And I’m looking forward to writing it.
Where did I demand that every option was tailored to me?
@Havenstone don’t worry, I don’t think your game is a dating sim, and romance is not a primary thing for me to enjoy a game. But if I dislike something, I can point out.
Yes it is bull because I’m not responsible for them having less or no choice. If they want to complain about some aspect of the game, I will never say something like he said.
I can only talk to myself, if people want to complain too, they can do it without my help.
I’m… oh, boy, do I hate doing this: non-binary grey-poly aroace, which is a very convulted way of saying that I am neither male nor female, and while attracted to many genders, my attraction… comes and goes… spontaneously. It’s a wild ride, to say the least, and neither as convenient as sexuality or as assuring as asexuality.
This game does not give me the chance to play as my actual gender. That’s boo, but I understand that given the worldbuilding, and it isn’t like Haven is just ignoring this, promising more nb characters in the world some other time. That’s nice. Even though it’s not exactly me, I understand the reasoning, and Haven is making a nice compromise… just as he is making a generous compromise regarding straight options. This is Rebel Simulator, after all.
I do not feel much attraction to… anyone in-game… yet. I see my characters seeing Breden as “aesthetic attraction”. But I don’t feel like I’m being ignored, as the options are there and Haven is not depriving me of anything by allowing pan, poly and bi people more options either.
Haven is doing a lot for us and doing it well and I am grateful for the thought that has gone into characterising the characters, the world, and the choices. It’s truly beautiful and I am thankful for what I have and every moment of it.
Thank you, my good friend Haven! <3
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There’s also Simon/Suzanne depending on your char’s orientation and how you set Breden’s gender, though of course that one seems to be one of the rare nobles in the game world who take the damned chastity code serious, or as the glorious @poison_mara once said, “they’re a bit of a nun”.
Still they are a romance even if you won’t get much further than some (ineffectual) courtship with them in game 1.
(And everyone will get the choice to be interested in the trans nonbinary Nyr who’s due to arrive next game).
Interesting, still I think for my character to be interested a trans person would clearly have to be a transman. which is why I still think that the crossdressing Dragoon in the Infinity series, provided they are a transman (and obviously one into men at that) and not the Mulan type who just wanted/needed to join to army might make for a nice, if unconventional, gay relationship opportunity.
Given our talk with Horion however, I assume that any trans person with enough access to magic can use theurgy to change their body to their desired (inter/non/third)gender. Or does Karagond and/or the Xthonic religion forbid such use of magic?
Player and character separation, while I’m sure my Helot character would have preferred a Simon who’d agree to “rut like bunnies” pretty much from the start of the relationship under the justification that any one of them is rather likely to die at any moment. As a player I can appreciate why Simon is the way he is even though for my character that learning process will likely take a fair bit longer.
Especially since my character is the type to revel in everything the Hegemony forbids, sinful non-reproductive sex (as a helot), Goety and deliberately wearing rags that cover very little are all likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Though he’s perfectly capable of pretending otherwise when it suits his purposes, of course.
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