I took another look at the code there and I noticed that, when you set your specialty in the inn scene, the text in the variable is capitalized, while it’s lowercase in the scene I got the bug in. It might be that the code differentiates between uppercase and lowercase, so it sets specialvar to 4 at the top of that scene by default. From what I know though, I don’t think you have to set that variable again there because it was already set when you first choose your specialty.
Yeah, honestly, all jokes aside, Leon is my second favorite RO from all IF type games together. And considering I own more than 50 released games and I have played a crap ton of demos… I think that’ll be very hard to top.
By the way, if you’re interested - nº1 is Zhu from the Relics series.
Oh, I understand why you’re doing it and I appreciate it! There have been points in other games where I wished for some acknowledgement of how my character had changed over the course of the story. The method I mentioned is one I’ve seen used in games that have built-in save/load points.
For example
*set save_variable current_variable
to set the save point and *set current_variable save_variable
to load.
It seems like the principal should be the same; I’m not sure why it doesn’t work for you. But even simple languages like CS can get finicky now and then.
Late to the party, I know, but since everyone was sharing their favorite BBQ songs earlier…
Well even if that could be done what will you do about the other three? Those would still cause you pain and misery and you’d end up being just 1/4th compatible
So my mc still isn’t interested in anything Eli might do, unless it is unbinding those parasites, but I highly doubt that will be the case.
Also my mc would view becoming compatible , like you say, to be akin to letting his old torturer win at this point and it would also still provide at best a 25% reduction in his pain and suffering. Meaning it would also, imho, still fall under just treating symptoms. A 25% reduction in pain and suffering would not be nothing, but it would also , hardly be a true cure.
In fact it is exactly the kind of therapy or treatment the modern medical establishment seems to prefer, akin to “take this pill for the rest of your life to reduce your pain by 25%”.
So, like I said, anything Eli might do is still highly likely to just be treating symptoms, not the underlying causes in which case my mc very much wouldn’t be interested.
In fact at this point my mc might really be better off specialising in ranged weapons, rather than magic.
So guns, crossbows or bows in that order of preference, depending on what would be available. Not that bows aren’t cool and good for giving guys nice upper bodies but they’d also take the longest to become proficient in of the options listed.
Aww…those eyes, why can we not romance the cutie again?
That is one other thing, my mc couldn’t turn against Saine specifically. Even though he’d consider his previous life to be a separate thing and they’d no longer be friends or old comrades I don’t think my mc could fully turn against Saine either. So it seems like I might end up on the route where you help him and by extension, sadly, Leon too but do so quite reluctantly.
Plus not feeling any positive vibrations from the other side either, of course.
Ngl, when I started this game and met Saine I was all like “OMG HE’S SO CUTE” and wanted to “go for him” as my RO choice and was seriously saddened that he wasn’t an RO… I’m still a bit meh about it but I understand it now. I still love him and will protect him at all costs😭
Wasn’t it said on tumblr Saine likes romance as long as it isn’t about him, or something like that? I may be misremembering, really…
But if that’s the case, my best guess would be he’s aro?
I may be wrong eh, I’m not sure if I remember correctly and if I’m not confusing with something else, and him being aro is only MY conclusion of that thing that I may not even remember correctly
But that still IS how I see it.
He’s also ace or not willing to be friends with benefits either. So full aro/ace seems most likely, but who but the author really knows. Saine might also just not be sexually into the mc…that sorta stuff happens in real life too.
Exactly thats what makes it even worse the people you helped saved were so damn quick to believe you were a villain when three months earlier you were killing your “sister” so they could live.
Regarding Leon burning the MC alive, I’m just hopping back into that line of the convo, he seems to get way more aggressive during the war and while using the sword. Maybe the magic sword is having a negative influence on Leon in addition to everything else is going on? Maybe I fell hook line and sinker for what I view as my sweet himbo brother, but I legitimately can’t find myself getting mad at Leon and I’m usually really good at putting myself in the shoes of my characters.
How did you hand him the throne? And I bet Leon would prefer his brother to be alive over having power anyway. He actively ran away from royal duties. And you DID do those things, and there was witnesses. So of course if you won’t say why he can’t just take you at face value. Tahlia is maybe fairly jaded but still, kinda bullshit that she has no qualms about forcing you to do whatever she wants. You know, since the problem at hand is the Arcadians being oppressed you think she’d get the irony.
So you think Leon could have won that war without the MC, you think he could have killed sister by himself when the MC needed ancient magic to pull it off and even then barely managed that. So yeah we are the reason he even has the ability to call himself king, Not to mention there was no investigation even if you plead your case he still kills you without trying to find out if you’re truly guilty or not. Atleast his brother could look at your character over your years together and knew that you weren’t guilty and that something else was at play, so did the healer. Now, Tahlia isn’t forcing you to do anything there is such a thing as an empty threat and her threat about putting the collar back on the mc was just that. She easily could have done that when we first awoke but didn’t and the fact that Eli doesn’t have one despite Tahlia questioning her loyalty. So until anything else has been shown that’s the way I choose to see it.
Leon was more concerned about his reputation as a King than finding out if you’re a fault or not. As he said “I am not the same foolish boy you met years ago, I am a king now.” If you try to convince him you aren’t technically guilty thats his response. So while you’re right we did kill the priestess, but only to save him and his kingdom from going up in flames something he would have found if simply waited a while longer. But hey you have your opinion on the matter, I have mine.
I won’t add to the back and forth about Leon because that will never settle anyway, but about that, I REALLY don’t believe Tahlia’s threat was empty?
From her general behavior, the way she acts and everything she said, I’m 100% sure her threats are not empty. But from what it seems to me, she certainly prefers NOT to arrive to such lenghts for the mere reason she only just brought the MC back. And that means, she probably still believes that she can convince them to actually embrace her cause and help her from their own accord. They would certainly be more efficient and “safe to use” if they actually WANT to be with her, as opposed to someone that would be forced.
She’s very powerful, and I have no doubts she IS able to literally force MC to obey her one way or another, but that would probably be something that would require time and energy, something she probably wants to put elsewhere. Collaring them wouldn’t require so much of these, though. At the moment, she doesn’t even need to collar them anyway, considering they can’t really escape her clutchess, physically.
Now she sent MC on a mission, but again, it’s about saving Eli and this is something MC cares about, no matter how each player actually shapes their MC. Which means MCs cooperation is basically guaranteed. And for what comes after, I guess she counts on one or both of two things to keep the MC obedient. Either she hopes they’d be grateful for bringing Eli back to life and saving him now, and that they’d listen to her after that, or she may hope Eli would convince MC to work with them - though that second one is up for debate since she said Eli is a former associate, so he may not be on board with her anyway. In that case MC would be the bait for Eli, not the other way around.
I have no doubts that after all of that, she’ll gradually start using more and more agressive and/or invasive methods to keep MC in her clutches and prevent them from getting free and/or warning Param.
In any case, I’m SO SO GLAD this game won’t force players to side with one or the other opposed forces, and that each person will be able to choose - at least in the long term. Because oh boy, considering how strong the opinions are on both sides at that point, I can’t imagine what’ll be later on!
If people were forced to remain with one group or the other in the end, I think they’d riot!
okay so since my quoting function seems to be acting up I would like to point out I am replying to your second paragraph. Those statements can go both ways to be fair, I am mean if our sister showed anything its that if you’re strong enough and have a high compatibility your magic will take very little tole on your body. Now its Tahlia is arguably more powerful for than sister which means that she has even less drawbacks and even if thats not the case I am sure there is some spell she could have used to keep our MC in a dormant state until she is able to “break” our will. But she didn’t hence why think they’re empty.
That being said you did bring up some interesting points, especially in your third paragraph. All of which I sadly didn’t think about and truly is a credit to @Parivir that us readers have such different opinions about various characters and situations. Truly well done.
Yeah, I agree with that, you’ll get a real threat from Thalia if you choose to be difficult with her in every way.
Thalia is hoping that NC would be willing follow her cause if they fuelled the hatred/betrayal (and the pain of not trusting) towards Leon.
Anyway lol you said it yourself that Leon’ brother Saine along with Illya really trusted MC and wanted to help them. But Thalia declared that she’ll kill them.
Thalia is deceptively powerful. She’s very much ready to turn MC into a slave if they don’t agree, Thalia is even willing to further the parasite of a Phantasma that’s slowly killing MC by using Eli. MC went on the mission at the ending to save/see Eli and even that mission to save Eli is to make MC even more powerful by continuing/fixing that experiment with Eli’ help.
Yep, “compatibility” seems to be why the mc is relatively weak and why using magic is torture for them despite being told by everyone we’re reasonably powerful, it just doesn’t feel that way to me.
Anyway I don’t think Eli can do anything about compatibility or those magical parasites the mc is stuck with. I speculate that Thalia has reason to believe Eli can speed up our onerous 30 year recovery time and that doing that once would be enough to fulfil whatever use she has for the mc, after which she’ll kill or throw away the mc either way and we’d be dead (again) or stuck without magic or at best with another 30 year recovery time.
If any of that turns out to be true the above are all reasons why my mc would not want Eli to mess with him. Hoperfully we can tell Eli as much in game.
Not more powerful, just shorten recovery time, you know fight symptoms because they are either not interested in “curing” the mc, which would require removing the parasites and possibly rebinding the mc to something more compatible…the latter being something my mc would refuse on account that it is apparently a miracle they survived being bound four times and even more of a miracle if they could survive being unbound four times too that my mc would not be willing to risk another parasite, no matter how “compatible” it might be.
Anyway unbinding is probably impossible and won’t ever happen, so we’re stuck in perpetual torture. I think my mc might prefer being dead actually.
Well-noted! This is now fixed in my private build, thank you very much for the catch.
And yeah, I’d have thought as much as well, but for some reason the variable keeps getting reset to 0 when I transition to a new screen? This happens multiple times throughout the game, as well, but redefining them at each scene’s start seems to do the trick. And while the code’s behavior is odd, I’m not curious enough to get to the bottom of it. xD
…what do you know, it does work. Let me pull out my clown makeup real quick…
I think the issue was that I tried to print the stat variable prior to storing it in the pre-stat variable. My only prior coding experience is with Pascal, and if memory serves that’s how copying variable values worked in that language. xD
Thanks so much for the tip! That being said, I’m not too eager to reverse the work already done, so I’m gonna let my clown of a code hang out in the game, at least for the time being. This is good to know for future reference, though!