It’s hard for a simple revenge plot since it’s hard to kill a king. We’re gonna need a well formed plan.
5 Likes
I don’t hate Leon, quite enough to want him dead, my opinion towards him is absolute indifference, what he does, is not my problem unless it interferes with my plans, I’ll kill him if I have to, leave him alive, if I have to, Toss him into a pit of writhing snakes, if I have to, but for now, he’s just some dude that doesn’t matter
5 Likes
Don’t do that. Last time someone tried that, they ended up having the Great Heathen Army invade England after a certain person said “How the piglets will grunt when they hear how the old boar died”
Just throw his ass in a dungeon with a view of the execution stand.
8 Likes
I get where Ante’s coming from, buuut why the hell would mc sacrifice themselves their health and their damn powers everytime they summon their damn phantasma to save the price of crap called Param if they’re a traitor? That don’t make any damn sense, the mc sacrificed too much, much more than everyone from Param to be constantly watched, can’t wait to burn her or do the worst thing the game will allow us to do to her
15 Likes
When Leon got a little snippy with MC for not telling them about their past like it would have done anything to stop Mireil? I really wonder why Tahlia didn’t go all in with sending the Nightsaber to aid Mireil.
10 Likes
INTRIGUED by this response by him bc although i would also not love my bestie keeping super important backstory info from me… iirc leon also did not tell the mage about HIS family situation until ante showed up and like. abducted everyone.
honestly it was a very reasonable response by him in the moment but i cannot get over it bc i really feel like it was the beginning of the end of him not trusting the mage anymore
12 Likes
I don’t really do indifference. It’s a rather alien feeling.
3 Likes
Better question, what was MC’s big plan? murder a dozen guards using their phantasma (despite everyone knowing this puts immense strain on them and leaves them fatigued afterwards) just to kill the (already incapacitated) saintess, with no escape plan or motivation? Why? Clearly there has to be more too it, MC had no motivation, no means of escape, and no step 2 to whatever this was, so it wasn’t a cut and dry betrayal. But you know, HERESY and all that.
18 Likes
Suicidal fanatic?
6 Likes
Especially if you don’t kill the guards. Why would I let them live to complicate things?
6 Likes
you are totally right that has to have been what they thought but like… a suicidal fanatic who waits three years after being in very close prolonged proximity to significantly more powerful people than the one they ended up killing? like no one but ilya and saine thought that was odd? the whole winning the war for them thing didn’t even buy a little curiosity about why they would do it?? param is a strange place
17 Likes
Been kind of wondering, was there an option to just try to persuade the paladins to let MC go to the Saintess? Being super sneaky in that scenario always felt weird and unnecessary to me. Just stride up to the paladins all like: “it is I! The court archmage of Parram, Royal Retainer of King Leomar, hero and savior of Param, Mother of Dragons, I have found the cure for Saintess, take me to her immediately”.
Is it just me, or is persuasion a viable option here?
10 Likes
mc really has zero juice just clout-less behavior
7 Likes
There’s also another moment someone on here point out. During the moonvein plague, if MC tries to insist on staying to cure the plague, Leon flexes his status and just orders the mage to listen. Woulda been hilarious if the mage resigned on the spot from their royal retainer position in retaliation for that “royal command”.
13 Likes
you don’t even have to insist! all you have to say is “team, i don’t feel great about leaving these ppl to their inevitable deaths after busting ass trying to save them” and he says “remember your place utility caster.” and he was really just standing around like 
that whole time. juiceless!
9 Likes
He really said that? Okay, now I’m starting to understand all the hate for Leon.
3 Likes
… I’m switching my mage’s codename from Calamity to Utility Caster.
13 Likes
cold world man
“I command it as your liege. Param is unkind to retainers who have opted to shirk their duty.” shit i didn’t even say i was going rogue yet
10 Likes
MC:
Nothing like flaunting your authority to get people to respect you!
11 Likes
Is it too much to ask for to see Barza again? Recruit him to Arcadia’s side as a down low spy? I mean, it was MC who solved the moonvein plague curse. Maybe he’d have a soft spot once he finds out MC is an Arcadian too.
2 Likes