WIP Grey Swan - Birds of a Rose Update 3.4.26 roughly 270k

8k words of new content, this one is for Wiesn drinking (drinking not required) route! To get the most of this update play as a Sanson and choose to be bullied for extra drama, be together with Hilda and be very angry.

In this update you can:

-get drunk (or not)

-dance on a bench

-get into a fight, almost kill someone

-how did your car get here?

-meet someone new on a drive home after being left behind

-meet someone old on a drive home after being left behind plus a mini mental breakdown

Patreons also get access to the first part of the Winter Special!

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Thanks for the update! I was just thinking about this game. :slight_smile:

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I hadnt thought I would need to write this so soon. But I cant focus on my WIP as much as I would like.

The reason? My work.

I am working 8,5-9 hours each day, sometimes even longer, since a few weeks now. Will it become better? Sadly not. It will get worse, because more people are leaving and no new ones are coming in.

With my work taking up so much time of my day, I sadly do not have the time or energy I want to give this WIP. I want to give the choices, the characters and story the time they deserve and need. With my new work schedule, I can not do that.

For the next few months I fear I will not be able to focus on my WIP.

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Good luck with your work!

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Thank you :orange_heart:

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I found a bug while codediving

#"I know." you sigh, "By the feathers believe me, I know." He looks at you, surprise on his face.

     *if (devotion >= 90) "But is that really such a bad thing?" you continue talking, gesturing around, "I am not unhappy. I am glad I live here, and so is my family." 

         *if (gift) Yes, you are hurt by a Ceres. But you are also mature enough to know that this happens everywhere.

...

     *if (meh >= 90) "It is easy to live here.", you shrug. 

         *if (gift) Even with Habichtklau. Sometimes, when it's Max and not Habichtklau, all is well.

(gift) should be ((rubinroute) and (rubinkill = false))

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thanks for finding it (how the hell did this get even written by my own hands), its fixed on my side but since its not a game breaking bug i wont upload it

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:person_facepalming: Just realized what “[NO]” on the screen before means. Apologies for the previous pointless bug report

But! I went codediving, wanted to try different routes, stumbled on this bug:

Thank you for catching this, it is fixed now.

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So I have a little time to write again, and as long as my memory works correctly I have roughly 2k of new content for the hike after the Open Day. There are still a lot of ROs missing and I want to do them all and previous choices justice!

I posted a bit more plus a sneak peek over on my patreon!

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So, I updated the Patreon demo with roughly 20k words!
Including:

-ask most ROs (mainly the “new” ones that only met MC recently) questions to learn more about them (and in some cases MC)!

-various nsfw scenes

The public demo (this one) has been updated with the winter special, adding 1k of new content into MCs family, reachable via quick start!

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/spring-in-divine-154833238

This is the first CYO special content!

Its 5.8k words and focuses on some spring traditions of the Divine Flock!

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I adore this concept and how it unfolds The prologue is immersive and oppressive. The isolation is well done and keenly felt when interacting with the world outside of the Divine Flock.

YES for getting to play a devout youngster in a cult who gets to discover how others see them little by little. Who defends his beliefs at first, and who’s slow to be shaken from it despite being marred by the bigotry of the cult, and his own emotions and orientation being seen as sinful. To make his perspective and experience relatable and believable. You don’t ‘just’ leave a cult. It’s a a highly complex situation to navigate and for the most part, I feel that reflected in the wip.

I was pleasantly surprised that it takes place in modern day, technology wise. Adds a whole new layer to how they are perceived in the world (and that this is not immediately apparent as well) and an alternative Germany/Bavaria with a history in France since there are few IFs set in Europe, alternative or no.

The German is not a problem for me, I understand about 80% of it, but I’m curious how it is for those that do not know any German at all (if there is a version with English translations underneath, I may have missed that) It may add to the feeling of mystery, but may also alienate if not understood but I’m sure other people have commented on this (as well as potentially everything else)

Fuchsia and Chase feel rather young (understandable but they’re working for prestigious organizations?) and for their roles, they do not feel that competent/careful/informed. Their long talks at night don’t feel dangerous as if they’re about to be discovered. They speak like they have all the time in the world (a bit too much exposition maybe, and a bit too much certainty in staying hidden)

Though I love the idea of Chase being a temptation of ‘sin’ for my mc, I don’t like him that much as a person yet. He comes on incredibly strong all the time (which feels a bit fake) which my mc does not appreciate (but I also want to keep the romance option open as something that smolders under the skin) I feel like I’m made to care for him too early while he has too little introspection about mc, though I appreciate my character can remain composed while not being unaffected and can be standoffish while keeping the romance path open.

After Chris and Klara’s death Chase is rightfully angered at mc’s inability to see it for what it is rather than the result of rules imposed by a cult, but I also hope that I can play a route where this shatters mc’s trust in Chase thus far (mc is dealing with his own conflicting emotions and well, brainwashing) and I’d like for Chase also to have to earn it back, rather than just the other way around (which is an expectation but not something I encountered yet)

As a sidenote, I kind of missed Chase’s shock at MC’s scars. Given it’s dark in the scene, but I thought there would be a more meaningful moment for it. The gilded scars are a cool touch though! (as well as the story behind it itself)

This may seem rather critical, but it’s one of my most anticipated WIP’s! I’m really looking forward to its development! Good luck!

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thank you really much for writing your praise as well as your criticism! (it really made my day reading this)

Especially if you know nothing else, everything is limited in their environment especially information.

thank you, my special interests line up well with cults so i use historical knowledge and my own research how they indoctrinate their members! i talked to a few members of the latter day saints and visited them, it was really baffling to me but also helped me undertstand the whole concept better and portray it.

I thought about having it play in a different time but ultimately decided against it! modern technology just added too much oppurtunity to miss, both as a means of control and manipulation (like the peacocks) as well as means to show a bit of worldbuilding at times.

i take great pride in writing all of my IFs in europe (or well at least my version of europe), there are too many stories where the USA is simply the default setting (now there are exeptions and the fantasy IFs also dont count) when the world has so much more to offer.
rn for example i am also working on an if that takes place in eastern germany! (my version of it but historically researched)

i do try to provide context in the following paragraphs about what was being said, but i can only hope it is understandable.

they are just one year older than mc, and while they work for a big and well known organisation they also really dont know the “scope” of this mission. Fuchsia esp thinks this is nothing more than a simple mission and is also a bit naive and too self-confident. (this will of course change and Owl MCs can already see that things are not as rosy (well aside from all the other horrible stuff that can happen))

i tried to strike a balance between the cult believing they are just normal strays (so totally underestimating them and only giving them a wing to keep an eye on them) and them having been assured by adults they would be safe (they arent but only chase knows that, however he is blinded by Fuchsias confidence).
Now of course in real life nothing like this would be anything even close to realistic lol but sometimes even i need to throw realism out of the window.

He is indeed fake towards mc! there are a few comments fuchsia makes towards him (really only a few, i think like 1 or 2) and are quite easy to miss. and yes the romance paths is always open but with reactions depending on how mc acted previously.

i have a scene for this (trust shattered) already planned but on how exactly Chase can earn it back my plans are less solid, but i will certainly add sth in!

Spoilers:

Summary

chase has no reaction because he is used to this kind of punisment! nevertheless i will expand that scene a bit as well as fuchsias.

thank you :orange_heart:

How can one grow without critique? thank you for the time writing this it shows you really put your thougths into it! And while some of your points are intended (like fuchsia and chase treating this like a walk in the park) or will be revealed later (like why chase is behaving like that) you cant know that cause i never shared this information with you.

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It’s been for me at least, and my skill in German is pretty much limited to “I can recognize this is German”, “hmm, this resembles a Swedish word”, “Fuchs is a fox” and “Zieben is such a pretty word!”

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Now i want to know what words resembles swedish ones ngl

Hm zieben shouldnt be there thats not a word, i will go look for that typo thanks for catching that!

Ah, no, that wasn’t about words that are in the game, but about my knowledge of German in general!

(But as an example, Vogel is fågel in Swedish. Which sounds pretty much the same. And I meant sieben, I always remember it with a z for some reason.)

Ah okay :slight_smile: thank you for the explenation! xD Zieben reminds me of Ziegen (goats)

You’re very welcome! I’m glad the feedback was received well!

i have a scene for this (trust shattered) already planned but on how exactly Chase can earn it back my plans are less solid, but i will certainly add sth in!

I’m looking forward it!

For Chase I wasn’t sure yet if his dislike of the cult was through personal experiences or through the loss of someone close to a/the cult. This is implied in the story, of course without conclusion yet as you mentioned, but you did convey it! His lack of reaction makes sense narratively, I think my dramatic ass just wanted the emotional payoff (and after all Chase has another interesting reaction to the scar that implies he’s familiar with it)

Though I don’t recall the exact comments Fuchsia makes, I think I know what you mean.
I think for my MC, the exaggeration grates on him, but he also believes it to be true in a way bc he isn’t used to fakery or deception (oh sweet irony)
I’m very much looking forward to the development of Chase’s character and story (or revealment rather) and him catching real feelings.

I would also like to ask if there is specific feedback you are looking for, and I’ll take extra note of it if I can on a future re-read!

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Thank you for writing it! It wasnt just baseless critique after all, it had merit and some things just happen to be revealed yet!

Chase used to be in the divine flock, in the old demo there was a scene with swans where he could sing with them and elrond was wondering “hey how the fuck can this guy sing (aka keep up) with us” (i will readd this once its time). yeah thats why. he used to be a swan and actually the best singer of his state

sounds like a sweet innocent angel… to bad he is in a very not innocent and not sweet story!

me too! like i do have plans but all writers know how those end up

Mainly consistency things tbh, things that were “teased” but never paid off (because i forgot them). I already keep a document only for “hey dont forget this stuff” it has grown to over 2k words and i really think a player has a much better “overview” than me!

Thank you very much :orange_heart: :purple_heart:

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