R.I.P me. Death by laughter.
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Hmmm. Does that mean I should scrap my next project, Life of a Porn Star? 
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I would love erotica games about actual feelings, innuendos… But 99% of erotica books are machist crap that directly put woman as sexual slaves or a rape fetish. I was about bought a erotica book in google play but all I found are you are captured, you are forced to … WTF? I don’t doubt there are women who love being dominated and being spanked but it’s not clearly MY case. I just want to read about a mature romance, maybe a triangle or a new funny flirt Nope there is none in the market.
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Sam you seem surprised. Hmm (thinks: oh wait I don’t think he’s had the talk yet)
@Razgriz
xD I’m not surprised. It’s just sooo bad.
@Lucid
That’s a resounding “yes.” xD
@poison_mara
From what I’ve heard of Fifty Shades of Grey, that’s basically what it is.
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Fifty shades of eww. I’m pretty sure it’s porn for old people. You always see old ladies reading it. However I’ve noticed a lot of people saying that when it comes to sex in CoG games they would rather they be like the ones in choice of vampire. I for one would feel just awful for my male MCs if when he was about to get some action only to find “certain parts no longer work like they should.” Lol it’s just cruel
Sam exactly that is why I hate 50 sades and only read half chapter
@poison_mara
I never even bothered. If I wanted to see stuff like that, I could just watch Law and Order: Special Victims Unit xD.
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Sam exactly, but i hope someone does an erotica Cog. But erotica authors when read word egalitarian go away scared,
Hey, can we stop the hate on 50 Shades of Grey? I think it’s far, far too easy to disparage, to use it as the punch line of a joke, and then to start laughing at the people who like reading it.
I’ll admit I was horrified to find that my mother was planning to purchase a copy. I was all “mother, don’t tell me these things, please no! There are things that should not be shared.”
I think 50 Shades of Grey shows that there is a demand for explicit writing, not only that, but that it’s not a dirty little secret anymore (unless it’s my mother buying it, please no don’t tell me), but it’s actually acceptable for women to buy that sort of books along with their weekly groceries.
That said, I don’t want to see 50 Choices of Grey out there, not when we could have a whole rainbow. I would like to see something with the sensibilities of a dating-sim/visual novel brought to the choice format.
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@FairyGodfeather yeah, my parents have a copy on their bookshelf.
Admittedly, it’s the upstairs cabinet-bookshelf, but still. I pretend not to see it whenever I go upstairs at their house.
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@FairyGodfeather my problem with 50 shades saga its all choices are you are a woman so you only could enjoy being dominated by a men, that is your place slave. The social advances in sex are false prepared to be captured and raped
Also in Spain rose novels as we called soap opera erotic novel for women are something normal lol since decades ago something like Hot horse riding my new neighbor or steamy nights are in grandmas selves and moms its normal here
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My grandma bought a copy and my nephew opened it up and tried to read it. Scariest /funniest moment in family history
A much more interesting question would be what people consider ‘erotic’ and what they consider ‘pornographic’.
I can see how explicit sex in CoG might not be a particularly good idea, but there are tons of ways to make a romantic scene sexy and emotional without going all Ikea on it.
I’d like to see a bit more risque stuff in these games, to be honest. Romances are great, and they’d be even greater with a bit of making-out. Let’s say you got this extremely dramatic and passionate relationship between MC and LI. Maybe they’re on different sides or have had the hots for each other since kindergarten. In any case, the story climax rolls around and the romance arc comes to a head. They stand in front of each other, knowing it’s now or never…and then the reader gets fed a short, to-the-point line about an innocent kiss (if that), after which the character immediatly get on with the story.
Now, that is probably fine if you’re not really interested in the romance. But I think we know by now that many readers love it.
I wanna see passion and emotions, people. I want character A to grab character B and throw them against a wall and kiss the living daylights out of them. Actually allow the characters to allude to the fact that, yes, they do find their partner attractive.
Keep it real.
No 50 Shades of Crap stuff, but also don’t make me feel like the romantic interactions were a tacked-on, last-minute ‘ugh if I have to’ addition.
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@FairyGodfeather And is it acceptable for men to buy it when they go for their weekly groceries?
No really guys, I have read the thread and now I am curious: is this a common assumption that the readers of these stories are (older) women? If so, why?
(Or am I seeing too much in the posts?)
@blackrising
“Let’s say you got this extremely dramatic and passionate relationship between MC and LI. Maybe they’re on different sides or have had the hots for each other since kindergarten… I want character A to grab character B and throw them against a wall and kiss the living daylights out of them.”
That’s actually exactly what just happened between Lucky and I in The Hero Project xD.
@blackrising The difficulty with describing the MC’s thoughts and feelings in a lot of detail is that it’s easy to cause dissonance between the author’s and the player’s views of the MC. The first Heroes Rise caught some flak for this because the game kept telling you that your MC was attracted to Black Magic, but that clashed with some players’ own characterization of the MC.
I’m not sure, in any case, that every CoG would benefit from more romance. For example, if I could add three more scenes to Mecha Ace, I’d make them all battles, not romance - because the main attraction of the game is getting to pilot a huge powerful combat armature.
@Samuel_H_Young
Hmm, guess I’ll have to go that route in my next playthrough, then. Although with how people are complaining how underdeveloped the Lucky and BM romances are…
@aetheria
Yeah, I can see how that could be a problem. It’s always hard to find the right mix of player autonomy and characterisation…although that could be partially solved with simply giving the player a choice. You know, letting them choose whether to hug, or kiss or do nothing. It wouldn’t be perfect, but it’s a start.
(I personally don’t mind when the MC has a bit of a pre-defined personality. I accept that the MC in Heroe’s Rise is a total fan of all things powered, for example, and that they find BM attractive. I can build my headcanons around that.)
Eh, what attracts one reader may not mean much to another. I couldn’t care less about giant mechas, for example, and just went through the fights in Mecha Ace with my mind stuck somewhere between ‘what’s for dinner’ and the grocery list. I still enjoyed it immensely, though, because what attracted me was the hero’s personal story (standing strong in the face of adversity, fighting for what you believe in) and (as always) the romance.
Other people played the game for the battles and the big shiny robots. Different strokes and all. *shrug*
Of course there are games where more romance isn’t necessary, I agree. If the whole game concentrates on fighting and action and the player isn’t even supposed to have much of an interest in the NPCs, then a big romance climax would seem out of place. But I believe that if the reader cares enough about an NPC to genuinely want to romance them…it wouldn’t be a bad idea to consider that.
Though if an author feels uncomfortable with that, then they shouldn’t force themselves to add something like that. But if they do, I say go for it.
@FairyGodfeather I haven’t read it myself but from what I understand the main issue with fifty shades of gray isn’t that “it’s erotica for old people, ew gross, old people!” It’s that it’s whole plot portrays a kind of sex slavery in a positive light. Like hard core Twilight without the fantasy elements.