That’s great. :slight_smile:

Updates to both will come, sooner or later. :stuck_out_tongue:

Wuxia is great!!!

I’m addicted to wuxia too!!! 8D Make it make it!
Won’t it be hard to write in English though? All the different vocabulary used in wuxia and atmosphere emanated from it would be hard to replicate.

What’s Wuxia?

Some Japanese style of Writing I think?

WAHHHHHTTTTTTTTT???
@SengokuKronos @Zed Wuxia is an ancient genre of Chinese literature, a sort of fantasy-martial-arts-warriors-heroes thingummy. I’m not good with words. Look it up.

For all those that have no idea about anything oriental: the entire Star Wars franchise is pretty much a wuxia saga in space.

OK, Thank you Wise @Bagelthief.
Now stop stealing people’s Bagels!

I’m so glad people are interested in wuxia as a genre. :slight_smile:

It’s a martial arts genre set in ancient China (the story I’m working on in particular takes place in the Ming dynasty), but it’s also kind of a fantasy genre in that some of the skills are “buffed up” and wholly unrealistic. Qing gong, for example, is a real skill used by people to become more agile and flexible, but in wuxia characters using qing gong fly around in the sky and jump across rooftops, defying gravity in general. Just about every sickness can be cured with one kind of magic pill or another, and people who spend their days getting beaten up recover from near-fatal accidents in weeks (and note: this is long before the days of modern surgery), it’s brilliant.
A more in-depth explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxia

@princelitchi, so far I haven’t had too much trouble translating ideas and explaining terms, but it’s quite hard to translate signature moves with names. (I have no intention of lifting moves from pre-existing wuxia worlds, but it seems to be a norm for any wuxia story to have tons of cool-sounding moves.) Does it seem hilariously cheesy to explain to someone with no prior knowledge of the genre that there’s an attack called “the green pine welcomes guests”?

In a Nut Shell: Dragon Ball Z ?

Call me a heretic, but I don’t actually remember much about DB/DBZ.

A quick wiki skim tells me DB is based off a Journey the West, which, while not strictly wuxia, is an older work on Chinese martial arts. It’s also more fantasy-oriented, with tons of gods/fairies/monsters. (That’s not to say wuxia lacks those elements, as mixing the two seems kind of popular nowadays, but in more traditional/“canon” wuxia works everyone was 100% human. Two of the four major characters in Journey, including Sun Wukong, whom Goku’s named after, were animals, and their origins were pretty important to the story.)

Wuxia, in general, is more sword-oriented than the basic martial arts categories. While martial arts does prominently feature in wuxia stories (the Shaolin monks are very often featured, for example), the protagonist(s) usually are sword users. Nothing in wuxia technically emphasizes on sword users, but it just seems more common for some reason. (It’s not exclusive, though. In Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils, for instance, Xiao Feng is from the Begger’s Sect, which uses sticks, Duan Yu defeats everyone with his pointing finger, and and Xuzhu lived most of his life as a Shaolin monk. I don’t remember if any of them actually used swords.)

But if you take away all the details and strip the stories down to essentials they are quite similar. In a nut shell: wuxia’s got more swords (sometimes) and fewer aliens.

Wow, I blab a lot when it comes to this, sorry. Dx I was going to blab more about the thematic differences between wuxia and Journey but I realized what a huge wall of text I already had.

A good wuxia CoG would be a thing of joy.

And please, textwall away! :slight_smile:

@seryou,
so like Kungfu Hustle?

@Zed, sort of. Barring the obvious time period differences, and minus the comedy bits (golly, Stephen Chow’s brilliant with the comedy bits), Kungfu Hustle is very, very wuxia, especially at the part when various unseemly villagers reveal themselves to be martial arts masters. It’s a very popular element in wuxia stories to have plain-seeming, usually humble figures turn out as ex-martial arts masters who tired of jianghu life. There were so many trademark wuxia elements in that movie, like the unwilling hero, the unknowingly learning of awesome techniques, the gaudy tiny-group-versus-a-million fight scenes, the shifu (master/instructor) who’s harsh but ultimately meaning for the best, the learning of a Secret Technique to defeat the ultimate Powerful Enemy, and the forgiveness at the end. While none of them are exclusive to the wuxia genre, they are often trademarks.

And, well, textwall ahead: :stuck_out_tongue: None of this is really important, but in case some of you are interested in Journey vs. wuxia.

Journey to the West was a more spiritual work, which is most easily seen from the characterization of Tang Seng and his disciples (well, that, and the entire point of the plot was to obtain scriptures from the titular West). Tang Seng is often hated on as a merit-less man-- he is too gullible (often times his gullibility leads the group into trouble), he is not a skilled a fighter, and he is “useless” as a character in a work with a lot of fighting action. He trusts the kindness of strangers over Wukong, his most faithful (and powerful) disciple, which often leads Wukong to abandoning the group and going back to his mountain and monkey pals. In the eyes of Wuking, the journey itself is kind of a meaningless thing-- he could make the entire journey himself in the blink of an eye, but is instead tasked with accompanying a “useless” man who never actually uses Wukong to the full extent of his abilities. There is only one external conflict throughout-- various demons and monsters want to eat Tang Seng to obtain immortality, and that’s it. The entire story is, if you take out all of the fighting and all of the demons, about the conflict between a man who only has faith and his disciple who only lacks faith (Many early chapters were spent detailing Wukong’s many exploits in all but literally defecating holy things in heaven and mocking spirituality and faith. He’s a pretty wild dude). Faith wins out in the end, the group makes it to the West okay, and everyone is immortalized. It’s /that/ kind of story.

Wuxia stories are generally more political. For one, they are more “realistic,” and the truth was that in China’s feudal ages everything was very political. Essentially the entire country was the personal property of the Emperor. One way or another, the Emperor or at least some of his workers are essential parts of the stories, usually as An Enemy, and the protagonist is usually actively avoiding (or forced to join) the government. There are usually at least half a ton different factions all vying for power, and the protagonist is caught (and has to choose) between them. Lots of morality/loyalty decisions. The protagonist has a certain skill he (let’s be honest here, 90% of wuxia stories have male protagonists. I don’t intend to follow this trend.) capitalizes on, usually his fighting skills or wit, although witty protagonists usually do end up unwittingly learning some long-lost, incredibly powerful techniques. With these skills, he’s forced to choose between various different concepts, like loyalty (to the country, to family, to friends, to people who have helped you before, etc. These usually do end up conflicting), fame, power, and leaving a good impression behind after you die. In the end, it’s a story about people, and the decisions they make.

Well it sounds cool, and I wouldn’t mind it (I LOVED Kung-Fu Hustle) but is this game safe because I really like this one and do not want It to die.

It is, I promise. Updates (to both) might be a little slow though.

@Zed But I like bagels!

@seryou I am really lookin’ forward to both. You’re a great writer, ya know that?

I now look forward to both of em, now.

I just realised Kung-Fu Panda is a Wuxia. That sucks, as I didn’t like that movie. But a new anime I’m watching is a Wuxia.

@Bagelthief, thanks! :slight_smile:

@Zed, great. :smiley:

@SengokuKronos, that movie was pretty mediocre. What anime, though?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrd88c_kingdom-1-2_animals
It is called Kingdom the link is above.
Also I meant it reminds me of the way one is told, kinda.
Usagi !_!