The fear I have is because fascism is abhorrent, the ending will focus on how bad Moravia is under the fascist regime while if you go for the Solidarity it will show how Moravia is prospering under the socialist regime without any bad things about it.
I’m not going to pretend that the fascists will have a lovely happy ending where Moravia is like some Leni Riefenstahl propaganda film and everything is perfect. I intend to show what happens when fascism takes over in all the countries it has done, to a greater or lesser extent depending on whether you took the moderate or radical approach. As I mentioned to you in DM, I have planned for when you actually come to power and bad things start to happen, a few moral choices about whether you are complicit in brutality and repression or do your best to minimise it.
On the other side, the Solidarity endings are not necessarily ‘good’ - again there is the choice between the moderate approach, which results in the preservation of the current democratic regime (which in modern western liberal eyes would I suppose be seen as the ‘good’ ending, but then, why shouldn’t it?) or the radical approach which if successful leads to a socialist republic, and again, moral choices would come with that as to what your personal role would be in the actions of that state.
I don’t want a “happy ending” for the New Order, but I think all the ending where you succeed as a member of the New Order or Solidarity should be more or less equal in both good and bad.
This is exactly what I was trying to say in my earlier post.
…And this is my exact response to it, as well. Socialism isn’t exactly an amazing system, either.
For New Order, moderate approach gets an authoritarian monarchy, radical gets fascist state, for Solidarity, moderate gets democracy, radical gets socialist state. Each of these systems will be portrayed with their respective positives and negatives in the end game, it’s as simple as that.
I assume by socialist state you mean Soviet style authoritarian socialism?
I’m thinking about my character and it sounds like I’ll be aiming for the moderate Solidarity path. Although it seems like that’s going to piss off Franz and Wulf
Now with that cleared up, here’s a discussion question;
What does everyone here like most about the game?
It allows you actually take a side that’s not “good” but “evil”. The new order takes up fascist ideals that are usually fought against in A LOT of video games and books. Like, “Unite the other nations to fight against blah-bluh- blah!”. It’s like being able to the villain in a super hero game. Just the fact that that ( the double that is on purpose) party is playable is why I like it.
Aww…but you know my mc insists that he isn’t a politician (like many politicians today do) Though whether my mc drank his own cool aid on this one I’m still undecided over.
On the other hand part of the reason why he hasn’t got himself a fancy new apartment. like Franz, is likely because he’s putting some money away in the hopes of belatedly attending university in the future.
This does bring up another issue, though I understand you did it to help streamline things, but I did wonder why my working class mc suddenly decided the Select was a cool hang-out within his price range, when previously the mere price of Tonic water nearly made him choke during his business there with Kant.:confused. I suppose wanting to impress cute French “diplomats” could be a good enough reason, but I checked and we go there even when we alone with Franz, or with Franz and Rosa, when I would have thought those two or three would go for somewhere more affordable.
I don’t even see how Solidarity can “win” without the popular front from their starting position, unless the radical path involves the Soviet Union and Germany and France are basically going to sit on their hands while we transition Moravia into a Soviet Satellite. Though for my mc of course the fact that the also notoriously gay unfriendly Stalin is in power in the Soviet Union at that is kind of a dealbreaker too and part of the reason why he works toward the popular front even if he may not always personally like the “social fascists” over at the SPD.
Until it begins to really diverge towards the endings, a radical Solidarity or New Order in Power (possibly after winning a civil war first in the case of Solidarity) or their more moderate paths, Solidarity led popular front, retaining democracy and however reluctantly the Queen (for now) or the “moderate” New Order path of the paternalistic, autocratic, hard-core conservative/ right-wing state under a monarchy led by King Georg. Those four will look quite different from one another.
I thought so too, but it is unlikely since Wulf and the Moravian government basically kicked out the Soviet aligned authoritarian communists, led by Kruler. If Moscow wanted to make a play through our Solidarity mc’s you think they’d have tried something or made some tentative contacts by now. Unless they are working through other Solidarity mp’s, hmm… Though Wulf, given her history, would certainly be more vigilant for those kinds of contacts then whatever my mc is doing with the SPD and the French.
Franz, seems to be persuadable, as we saw in the amendment vote to a certain degree, since we basically seem to be his mentor too. As for Wulf, this is politics, you can’t keep everybody happy and it is folly to try.
That is what my “canon” mc will do too, yes.
The radicals shall be purged with the institution of social democratic ideals. The Tree of Liberty must be wetted from time to time with the blood of tyrants - even (especially?) those who cannot compromise with allies to win against the Fascist Menace
Can’t you suppress the Civil War before it start?
I feel incredibly blond.
Hey, @Rogar, just wanted to say that that comment cracked me up really good. A like clearly isn’t enough to express how funny it was. Thanks man, I needed a good laugh.
But blond guys have all the fun. Or at least more of it then the other hair-colours according to the saying.
What I do know is that in the Amsterdam club circuit back in the 00’s bleaching ones hair was fairly popular among (gay) guys.
To Victory. The Order will not be crushed.
…Unless its the Nazis. Powerful motherfuckers. They’re going to come in at the end of the game and troll us all anyways.
We shall fight the Nazis until the last man! We shall not tolerate what they did to Moravia in WWI again!
If they come expecting New Order to roll over a red carpet for them, like the old king did, they shall get another thing coming!
Don’t lose you faith brother, we shall expel the German army like we did before. Our leader Riga is a exceptional man, he shall not falter and so do we.
To Victory!
You are right, brother! To Victory! May the Order live on through our defiance and bravery! May the Reich fall, just as Solidarity will!
As long as I can run away with the divinely gorgeous Kant or with the redhead androgynous rebel beauty, I am fine with either ending. I am not dying in Moravia if I can end my days in a sunny beach with those gals.
Btw, @AlexClifford1994, how will the romantic relationship with Kant work? And will we be able to be with her by the end of the story, or will her marriage get in the way? Because I would be perfectly glad to kill her husband, she is that amazing. Yeah, my main MC is totally in love with her. How could he resist an highly beautiful and highly intelligent (and leftist!!!) woman?
I just hope i will be able to end up with something Resembling more Francoist spain or Mussoliny italy rather than the german thing.
Also There is supposed to be sequel to this ?